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T O P I C R E V I E Wnext to neptuneWhat in the natal chart makes a person who feels hated by every people they meet?(And they are actually hated by almost everyone they meet) And when they finally meet someone nice, they cannot believe their eyes so they turn those people down, because they cannot take their love? sc0rpioRisingOh gosh thats me.. 29th April 1985 10.05 pm LondonPlease dont quote this.I have pluto and saturn in 12th house scorpio12th house scorpio risingVirgo moon in t squareNeptune in hard aspect to most personal planetsMoon sqaure ascedentYour subject title just described my life... sweet-scorpionHmm... I can imagine that having Uranus and/or Saturn directly square or conjunct the ASC could lead to some problems with being accepted by society. In the first case, Uranus could make you feel too eccentric and disliked for your immediate eccentric presentation... so you feel 'hated' by everyone for being different, pushing the status quo. Saturn on the ASC could make you feel self-conscious and disliked by others for your own insecurities. Also look to serious afflictions to the ASC ruler, particularly from Saturn, Uranus, maybe Pluto... but I don't see Pluto alone as attracting ONLY hate, since Pluto is polarizing and on the ASC/ASC ruler, it would more likely denote someone who has love/hate relationships and inspires strong feelings in those he/she meets. next to neptune quote:Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:Oh gosh thats me.. 29th April 1985 10.05 pm LondonPlease dont quote this.I have pluto and saturn in 12th house scorpio12th house scorpio risingVirgo moon in t squareNeptune in hard aspect to most personal planetsMoon sqaure ascedentYour subject title just described my life... I am sure no matter what, that it cannot be worse than my chart. I can guarantee that!I don't have an afflicted AC, but everything else is afflicted in my chart. I have pluto closely trine AC, and I feel very insecure around people. I feel that people can easily see my personality, people always stare at me but says nothing. I think their empty stares says that I'm a freak, cause why don't people say anything? next to neptune quote:Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:Hmm... I can imagine that having Uranus and/or Saturn directly square or conjunct the ASC could lead to some problems with being accepted by society. In the first case, Uranus could make you feel too eccentric and disliked for your immediate eccentric presentation... so you feel 'hated' by everyone for being different, pushing the status quo. Saturn on the ASC could make you feel self-conscious and disliked by others for your own insecurities. Also look to serious afflictions to the ASC ruler, particularly from Saturn, Uranus, maybe Pluto... but I don't see Pluto alone as attracting ONLY hate, since Pluto is polarizing and on the ASC/ASC ruler, it would more likely denote someone who has love/hate relationships and inspires strong feelings in those he/she meets. I have my chart ruler the Moon closely square uranus. And my 11th house ruler is also square Uranus. I often feel that people think I'm being rude, like I'm some kind of criminal who do whatever I want without thinking about others. The truth is, all I ever think about is what other think about me… moon is in 10th house, pisces….I always care too much. sc0rpioRising quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: I am sure no matter what, that it cannot be worse than my chart. I can guarantee that!I don't have an afflicted AC, but everything else is afflicted in my chart. I have pluto closely trine AC, and I feel very insecure around people. I feel that people can easily see my personality, people always stare at me but says nothing. I think their empty stares says that I'm a freak, cause why don't people say anything? I feeel the same way.. the most aspected planet i have is neptune.. trust me.. i know how u feel . Completely misunderstoodnext to neptune quote:Originally posted by sc0rpioRising: I feeel the same way.. the most aspected planet i have is neptune.. trust me.. i know how u feel . Completely misunderstoodYes, sometimes I feel like ending my life, cause I see no way out of this misery actually. And I get so tired of people who just stare at me like I am an idiot when i have done nothing. GeekyI have no idea, but I suddenly want to hug all three of you. sc0rpioRising quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: Yes, sometimes I feel like ending my life, cause I see no way out of this misery actually. And I get so tired of people who just stare at me like I am an idiot when i have done nothing. I know... but dont ever think of ending it.. as once its done.. it cant be un done.. u r beautiful and deserved to be loved.. remember one thing.. out thoughts turn into emotions so THINK positive thoughts.. and ur emotions will be positive.. everytime u think negative.. tell urself tostop.. just stop... and in vision yourself happy.. sweet-scorpion quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: I have my chart ruler the Moon closely square uranus. And my 11th house ruler is also square Uranus. I often feel that people think I'm being rude, like I'm some kind of criminal who do whatever I want without thinking about others. The truth is, all I ever think about is what other think about me… moon is in 10th house, pisces….I always care too much. This could all indicate some issues with feeling accepted in social situations. I'm sorry you've gone through this. Yes, Pisces Moon is really sensitive. I have Moon trine Neptune almost exactly and it is very difficult for me at times not to feel too sensitive. Do you have Chiron-ASC or Chiron in your 11th? I'm curious.next to neptune quote:Originally posted by sc0rpioRising: I know... but dont ever think of ending it.. as once its done.. it cant be un done.. u r beautiful and deserved to be loved.. remember one thing.. out thoughts turn into emotions so THINK positive thoughts.. and ur emotions will be positive.. everytime u think negative.. tell urself tostop.. just stop... and in vision yourself happy.. It doesn't matter how much I try to think positive, people still treat me like I am stupid and don't deserve better. I don't want to think positive, when I am just realistic… next to neptune quote:Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: This could all indicate some issues with feeling accepted in social situations. I'm sorry you've gone through this. Yes, Pisces Moon is really sensitive. I have Moon trine Neptune almost exactly and it is very difficult for me at times not to feel too sensitive. Do you have Chiron-ASC or Chiron in your 11th? I'm curious.I have chiron closely conjunct ASC but Chiron in 12th house… right now I don't feel accepted anywhere, but not left out either… I just feel invisible, like it didn't matter if I just died or disappeared, no one would care. NeptunianSagI have Chiron in leo 10th, Pluto trine mc, mars conjunct mc, Neptune opposite mc, mercury trine mc. Sometimes I feel like this, like I don't fit in, I like going my own way I don't agree or like society's rules or expectations. I have Uranus square asc also, I feel like a weirdo, but it's a lot better than being boring. I'm thinking of becoming an art therapist or psychologist to help those who feel similar to me in society. I have appreciation for artists, individualism, weirdos, outcasts, musicians, I love it when people are themselves and not trying to fit in with a sick society. I think outer planet dominate people have a hard time fitting in society in general I think, but we are also the ones who can change society and people, so think of the positive of this. next to neptune quote:Originally posted by NeptunianSag:I have Chiron in 10th, Pluto trine mc, mars conjunct mc, Neptune opposite mc, mercury trine mc. Sometimes I feel like this, like I don't fit in, I like going my own way I don't agree or like society's rules or expectations. I have Uranus square asc also, I feel like a weirdo, but it's a lot better than being boring. I am boring I am a virgo. All the cool and not so boring people I try to fit in with, thinks Im boring. sweet-scorpion quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: I have chiron closely conjunct ASC but Chiron in 12th house… right now I don't feel accepted anywhere, but not left out either… I just feel invisible, like it didn't matter if I just died or disappeared, no one would care. I'm sorry. I empathize with you since I also have felt really left out before and too 'different' to fit in anywhere. However, there is a loving community for you out there, somewhere...you just can't quit and give up on the search. There is a book called 'the 5 dharmic types' [something like that] that I think would be really useful to you! Chiron-ASC can make you feel perpetually wounded concerning your identity. I have the square.NeptunianSag quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: I am boring I am a virgo. All the cool and not so boring people I try to fit in with, thinks Im boring. I have a Virgo moon, it's ok to be boring. NeptunianSag quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: I have chiron closely conjunct ASC but Chiron in 12th house… right now I don't feel accepted anywhere, but not left out either… I just feel invisible, like it didn't matter if I just died or disappeared, no one would care. I feel the same, do you have any Neptune mc aspects? Because I have the opposition to my mc and I'm confused as hell on what people think of me, like they never tell me. People stare and I get confused as to why.next to neptune quote:Originally posted by NeptunianSag:I have Chiron in leo 10th, Pluto trine mc, mars conjunct mc, Neptune opposite mc, mercury trine mc. Sometimes I feel like this, like I don't fit in, I like going my own way I don't agree or like society's rules or expectations. I have Uranus square asc also, I feel like a weirdo, but it's a lot better than being boring. I'm thinking of becoming an art therapist or psychologist to help those who feel similar to me in society. I have appreciation for artists, individualism, weirdos, outcasts, musicians, I love it when people are themselves and not trying to fit in with a sick society. I think outer planet dominate people have a hard time fitting in society in general I think, but we are also the ones who can change society and people, so think of the positive of this. You are probably right. But I don't fit in with people in general. I don't get along with people, not the majority, not the outcasts either. My chart is messed up. I have no influence on other people, so I cannot help anyone because I can't even help myself. There is nothing for me anywhere. KarkaQueenYou're a Moon in Pisces right? You act just like my boyfriend. Very depressed, very sensitive, hard to get out of their sadness..next to neptune quote:Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: I'm sorry. I empathize with you since I also have felt really left out before and too 'different' to fit in anywhere. However, there is a loving community for you out there, somewhere...you just can't quit and give up on the search. There is a book called 'the 5 dharmic types' [something like that] that I think would be really useful to you! Chiron-ASC can make you feel perpetually wounded concerning your identity. I have the square.My dream is to find a group of friends that accept me…I have always wanted to just be a part of a group and feel safe. Maybe its because of my NN in Aqua … but I just feel very alone and now Im soon 25 so I think its too late now to find a nice group of friends. next to neptune quote:Originally posted by KarkaQueen:You're a Moon in Pisces right? You act just like my boyfriend. Very depressed, very sensitive, hard to get out of their sadness..Yes the moon is my chart ruler and it is messed up, it only receives hard aspects. But it's not just me that is too sensitive, I have a thick skin outwardly (cancer ascendant) but people actually DO treat me badly, compared to others. It feels unfair when other people have such an easy time, but me, I have to work hard and it doesn't even pay off. bansheequeenMe. I have Virgo rising. I think Virgo risers just never really get much love or attention. I have Pluto, Neptune, Venus and Jupiter aspects to my asc but they are all trines or sextiles. So no harsh aspects to my ascendant at all. I also have moon sextile the ascendant does that mean people can read my feelings on my face? Because if they can that might be a reason people dislike me.
I have pluto and saturn in 12th house scorpio12th house scorpio risingVirgo moon in t squareNeptune in hard aspect to most personal planetsMoon sqaure ascedent
Your subject title just described my life...
Also look to serious afflictions to the ASC ruler, particularly from Saturn, Uranus, maybe Pluto... but I don't see Pluto alone as attracting ONLY hate, since Pluto is polarizing and on the ASC/ASC ruler, it would more likely denote someone who has love/hate relationships and inspires strong feelings in those he/she meets.
quote:Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:Oh gosh thats me.. 29th April 1985 10.05 pm LondonPlease dont quote this.I have pluto and saturn in 12th house scorpio12th house scorpio risingVirgo moon in t squareNeptune in hard aspect to most personal planetsMoon sqaure ascedentYour subject title just described my life...
I am sure no matter what, that it cannot be worse than my chart. I can guarantee that!
I don't have an afflicted AC, but everything else is afflicted in my chart.
I have pluto closely trine AC, and I feel very insecure around people. I feel that people can easily see my personality, people always stare at me but says nothing. I think their empty stares says that I'm a freak, cause why don't people say anything?
quote:Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:Hmm... I can imagine that having Uranus and/or Saturn directly square or conjunct the ASC could lead to some problems with being accepted by society. In the first case, Uranus could make you feel too eccentric and disliked for your immediate eccentric presentation... so you feel 'hated' by everyone for being different, pushing the status quo. Saturn on the ASC could make you feel self-conscious and disliked by others for your own insecurities. Also look to serious afflictions to the ASC ruler, particularly from Saturn, Uranus, maybe Pluto... but I don't see Pluto alone as attracting ONLY hate, since Pluto is polarizing and on the ASC/ASC ruler, it would more likely denote someone who has love/hate relationships and inspires strong feelings in those he/she meets.
I have my chart ruler the Moon closely square uranus. And my 11th house ruler is also square Uranus.
I often feel that people think I'm being rude, like I'm some kind of criminal who do whatever I want without thinking about others.
The truth is, all I ever think about is what other think about me… moon is in 10th house, pisces….I always care too much.
quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: I am sure no matter what, that it cannot be worse than my chart. I can guarantee that!I don't have an afflicted AC, but everything else is afflicted in my chart. I have pluto closely trine AC, and I feel very insecure around people. I feel that people can easily see my personality, people always stare at me but says nothing. I think their empty stares says that I'm a freak, cause why don't people say anything?
I feeel the same way.. the most aspected planet i have is neptune.. trust me.. i know how u feel . Completely misunderstood
quote:Originally posted by sc0rpioRising: I feeel the same way.. the most aspected planet i have is neptune.. trust me.. i know how u feel . Completely misunderstood
Yes, sometimes I feel like ending my life, cause I see no way out of this misery actually. And I get so tired of people who just stare at me like I am an idiot when i have done nothing.
quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: Yes, sometimes I feel like ending my life, cause I see no way out of this misery actually. And I get so tired of people who just stare at me like I am an idiot when i have done nothing.
I know... but dont ever think of ending it.. as once its done.. it cant be un done.. u r beautiful and deserved to be loved.. remember one thing.. out thoughts turn into emotions so THINK positive thoughts.. and ur emotions will be positive.. everytime u think negative.. tell urself tostop.. just stop... and in vision yourself happy..
quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: I have my chart ruler the Moon closely square uranus. And my 11th house ruler is also square Uranus. I often feel that people think I'm being rude, like I'm some kind of criminal who do whatever I want without thinking about others. The truth is, all I ever think about is what other think about me… moon is in 10th house, pisces….I always care too much.
This could all indicate some issues with feeling accepted in social situations. I'm sorry you've gone through this. Yes, Pisces Moon is really sensitive. I have Moon trine Neptune almost exactly and it is very difficult for me at times not to feel too sensitive. Do you have Chiron-ASC or Chiron in your 11th? I'm curious.
quote:Originally posted by sc0rpioRising: I know... but dont ever think of ending it.. as once its done.. it cant be un done.. u r beautiful and deserved to be loved.. remember one thing.. out thoughts turn into emotions so THINK positive thoughts.. and ur emotions will be positive.. everytime u think negative.. tell urself tostop.. just stop... and in vision yourself happy..
It doesn't matter how much I try to think positive, people still treat me like I am stupid and don't deserve better. I don't want to think positive, when I am just realistic…
quote:Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: This could all indicate some issues with feeling accepted in social situations. I'm sorry you've gone through this. Yes, Pisces Moon is really sensitive. I have Moon trine Neptune almost exactly and it is very difficult for me at times not to feel too sensitive. Do you have Chiron-ASC or Chiron in your 11th? I'm curious.
I have chiron closely conjunct ASC but Chiron in 12th house… right now I don't feel accepted anywhere, but not left out either… I just feel invisible, like it didn't matter if I just died or disappeared, no one would care.
I think outer planet dominate people have a hard time fitting in society in general I think, but we are also the ones who can change society and people, so think of the positive of this.
quote:Originally posted by NeptunianSag:I have Chiron in 10th, Pluto trine mc, mars conjunct mc, Neptune opposite mc, mercury trine mc. Sometimes I feel like this, like I don't fit in, I like going my own way I don't agree or like society's rules or expectations. I have Uranus square asc also, I feel like a weirdo, but it's a lot better than being boring.
I am boring I am a virgo. All the cool and not so boring people I try to fit in with, thinks Im boring.
quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: I have chiron closely conjunct ASC but Chiron in 12th house… right now I don't feel accepted anywhere, but not left out either… I just feel invisible, like it didn't matter if I just died or disappeared, no one would care.
I'm sorry. I empathize with you since I also have felt really left out before and too 'different' to fit in anywhere. However, there is a loving community for you out there, somewhere...you just can't quit and give up on the search. There is a book called 'the 5 dharmic types' [something like that] that I think would be really useful to you! Chiron-ASC can make you feel perpetually wounded concerning your identity. I have the square.
quote:Originally posted by next to neptune: I am boring I am a virgo. All the cool and not so boring people I try to fit in with, thinks Im boring.
I have a Virgo moon, it's ok to be boring.
I feel the same, do you have any Neptune mc aspects? Because I have the opposition to my mc and I'm confused as hell on what people think of me, like they never tell me. People stare and I get confused as to why.
quote:Originally posted by NeptunianSag:I have Chiron in leo 10th, Pluto trine mc, mars conjunct mc, Neptune opposite mc, mercury trine mc. Sometimes I feel like this, like I don't fit in, I like going my own way I don't agree or like society's rules or expectations. I have Uranus square asc also, I feel like a weirdo, but it's a lot better than being boring. I'm thinking of becoming an art therapist or psychologist to help those who feel similar to me in society. I have appreciation for artists, individualism, weirdos, outcasts, musicians, I love it when people are themselves and not trying to fit in with a sick society. I think outer planet dominate people have a hard time fitting in society in general I think, but we are also the ones who can change society and people, so think of the positive of this.
You are probably right. But I don't fit in with people in general. I don't get along with people, not the majority, not the outcasts either.
My chart is messed up. I have no influence on other people, so I cannot help anyone because I can't even help myself. There is nothing for me anywhere.
quote:Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: I'm sorry. I empathize with you since I also have felt really left out before and too 'different' to fit in anywhere. However, there is a loving community for you out there, somewhere...you just can't quit and give up on the search. There is a book called 'the 5 dharmic types' [something like that] that I think would be really useful to you! Chiron-ASC can make you feel perpetually wounded concerning your identity. I have the square.
My dream is to find a group of friends that accept me…I have always wanted to just be a part of a group and feel safe. Maybe its because of my NN in Aqua … but I just feel very alone and now Im soon 25 so I think its too late now to find a nice group of friends.
quote:Originally posted by KarkaQueen:You're a Moon in Pisces right? You act just like my boyfriend. Very depressed, very sensitive, hard to get out of their sadness..
Yes the moon is my chart ruler and it is messed up, it only receives hard aspects. But it's not just me that is too sensitive, I have a thick skin outwardly (cancer ascendant) but people actually DO treat me badly, compared to others. It feels unfair when other people have such an easy time, but me, I have to work hard and it doesn't even pay off.
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