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Knowflake

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posted July 27, 2014 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What in the natal chart makes a person who feels hated by every people they meet?(And they are actually hated by almost everyone they meet) And when they finally meet someone nice, they cannot believe their eyes so they turn those people down, because they cannot take their love?

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posted July 27, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh gosh thats me..
29th April 1985 10.05 pm London
Please dont quote this.


I have pluto and saturn in 12th house scorpio
12th house scorpio rising
Virgo moon in t square
Neptune in hard aspect to most personal planets
Moon sqaure ascedent

Your subject title just described my life...

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posted July 27, 2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm... I can imagine that having Uranus and/or Saturn directly square or conjunct the ASC could lead to some problems with being accepted by society. In the first case, Uranus could make you feel too eccentric and disliked for your immediate eccentric presentation... so you feel 'hated' by everyone for being different, pushing the status quo. Saturn on the ASC could make you feel self-conscious and disliked by others for your own insecurities.

Also look to serious afflictions to the ASC ruler, particularly from Saturn, Uranus, maybe Pluto... but I don't see Pluto alone as attracting ONLY hate, since Pluto is polarizing and on the ASC/ASC ruler, it would more likely denote someone who has love/hate relationships and inspires strong feelings in those he/she meets.

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posted July 27, 2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:
Oh gosh thats me..
29th April 1985 10.05 pm London
Please dont quote this.


I have pluto and saturn in 12th house scorpio
12th house scorpio rising
Virgo moon in t square
Neptune in hard aspect to most personal planets
Moon sqaure ascedent

Your subject title just described my life...


I am sure no matter what, that it cannot be worse than my chart. I can guarantee that!

I don't have an afflicted AC, but everything else is afflicted in my chart.

I have pluto closely trine AC, and I feel very insecure around people. I feel that people can easily see my personality, people always stare at me but says nothing. I think their empty stares says that I'm a freak, cause why don't people say anything?

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Knowflake

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posted July 27, 2014 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Hmm... I can imagine that having Uranus and/or Saturn directly square or conjunct the ASC could lead to some problems with being accepted by society. In the first case, Uranus could make you feel too eccentric and disliked for your immediate eccentric presentation... so you feel 'hated' by everyone for being different, pushing the status quo. Saturn on the ASC could make you feel self-conscious and disliked by others for your own insecurities.

Also look to serious afflictions to the ASC ruler, particularly from Saturn, Uranus, maybe Pluto... but I don't see Pluto alone as attracting ONLY hate, since Pluto is polarizing and on the ASC/ASC ruler, it would more likely denote someone who has love/hate relationships and inspires strong feelings in those he/she meets.


I have my chart ruler the Moon closely square uranus. And my 11th house ruler is also square Uranus.

I often feel that people think I'm being rude, like I'm some kind of criminal who do whatever I want without thinking about others.

The truth is, all I ever think about is what other think about me… moon is in 10th house, pisces….I always care too much.

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posted July 27, 2014 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by next to neptune:
I am sure no matter what, that it cannot be worse than my chart. I can guarantee that!

I don't have an afflicted AC, but everything else is afflicted in my chart.

I have pluto closely trine AC, and I feel very insecure around people. I feel that people can easily see my personality, people always stare at me but says nothing. I think their empty stares says that I'm a freak, cause why don't people say anything?


I feeel the same way.. the most aspected planet i have is neptune.. trust me.. i know how u feel . Completely misunderstood

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posted July 27, 2014 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:
I feeel the same way.. the most aspected planet i have is neptune.. trust me.. i know how u feel . Completely misunderstood

Yes, sometimes I feel like ending my life, cause I see no way out of this misery actually. And I get so tired of people who just stare at me like I am an idiot when i have done nothing.

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posted July 27, 2014 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no idea, but I suddenly want to hug all three of you.

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posted July 27, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Yes, sometimes I feel like ending my life, cause I see no way out of this misery actually. And I get so tired of people who just stare at me like I am an idiot when i have done nothing.

I know... but dont ever think of ending it.. as once its done.. it cant be un done.. u r beautiful and deserved to be loved.. remember one thing.. out thoughts turn into emotions so THINK positive thoughts.. and ur emotions will be positive.. everytime u think negative.. tell urself tostop.. just stop... and in vision yourself happy..

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posted July 27, 2014 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I have my chart ruler the Moon closely square uranus. And my 11th house ruler is also square Uranus.

I often feel that people think I'm being rude, like I'm some kind of criminal who do whatever I want without thinking about others.

The truth is, all I ever think about is what other think about me… moon is in 10th house, pisces….I always care too much.


This could all indicate some issues with feeling accepted in social situations. I'm sorry you've gone through this. Yes, Pisces Moon is really sensitive. I have Moon trine Neptune almost exactly and it is very difficult for me at times not to feel too sensitive. Do you have Chiron-ASC or Chiron in your 11th? I'm curious.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:
I know... but dont ever think of ending it.. as once its done.. it cant be un done.. u r beautiful and deserved to be loved.. remember one thing.. out thoughts turn into emotions so THINK positive thoughts.. and ur emotions will be positive.. everytime u think negative.. tell urself tostop.. just stop... and in vision yourself happy..

It doesn't matter how much I try to think positive, people still treat me like I am stupid and don't deserve better. I don't want to think positive, when I am just realistic…

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posted July 27, 2014 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
This could all indicate some issues with feeling accepted in social situations. I'm sorry you've gone through this. Yes, Pisces Moon is really sensitive. I have Moon trine Neptune almost exactly and it is very difficult for me at times not to feel too sensitive. Do you have Chiron-ASC or Chiron in your 11th? I'm curious.

I have chiron closely conjunct ASC but Chiron in 12th house… right now I don't feel accepted anywhere, but not left out either… I just feel invisible, like it didn't matter if I just died or disappeared, no one would care.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Chiron in leo 10th, Pluto trine mc, mars conjunct mc, Neptune opposite mc, mercury trine mc. Sometimes I feel like this, like I don't fit in, I like going my own way I don't agree or like society's rules or expectations. I have Uranus square asc also, I feel like a weirdo, but it's a lot better than being boring. I'm thinking of becoming an art therapist or psychologist to help those who feel similar to me in society. I have appreciation for artists, individualism, weirdos, outcasts, musicians, I love it when people are themselves and not trying to fit in with a sick society.

I think outer planet dominate people have a hard time fitting in society in general I think, but we are also the ones who can change society and people, so think of the positive of this.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I have Chiron in 10th, Pluto trine mc, mars conjunct mc, Neptune opposite mc, mercury trine mc. Sometimes I feel like this, like I don't fit in, I like going my own way I don't agree or like society's rules or expectations. I have Uranus square asc also, I feel like a weirdo, but it's a lot better than being boring.

I am boring I am a virgo. All the cool and not so boring people I try to fit in with, thinks Im boring.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I have chiron closely conjunct ASC but Chiron in 12th house… right now I don't feel accepted anywhere, but not left out either… I just feel invisible, like it didn't matter if I just died or disappeared, no one would care.

I'm sorry. I empathize with you since I also have felt really left out before and too 'different' to fit in anywhere. However, there is a loving community for you out there, somewhere...you just can't quit and give up on the search. There is a book called 'the 5 dharmic types' [something like that] that I think would be really useful to you! Chiron-ASC can make you feel perpetually wounded concerning your identity. I have the square.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I am boring I am a virgo. All the cool and not so boring people I try to fit in with, thinks Im boring.

I have a Virgo moon, it's ok to be boring.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I have chiron closely conjunct ASC but Chiron in 12th house… right now I don't feel accepted anywhere, but not left out either… I just feel invisible, like it didn't matter if I just died or disappeared, no one would care.

I feel the same, do you have any Neptune mc aspects? Because I have the opposition to my mc and I'm confused as hell on what people think of me, like they never tell me. People stare and I get confused as to why.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I have Chiron in leo 10th, Pluto trine mc, mars conjunct mc, Neptune opposite mc, mercury trine mc. Sometimes I feel like this, like I don't fit in, I like going my own way I don't agree or like society's rules or expectations. I have Uranus square asc also, I feel like a weirdo, but it's a lot better than being boring. I'm thinking of becoming an art therapist or psychologist to help those who feel similar to me in society. I have appreciation for artists, individualism, weirdos, outcasts, musicians, I love it when people are themselves and not trying to fit in with a sick society.

I think outer planet dominate people have a hard time fitting in society in general I think, but we are also the ones who can change society and people, so think of the positive of this.


You are probably right. But I don't fit in with people in general. I don't get along with people, not the majority, not the outcasts either.

My chart is messed up. I have no influence on other people, so I cannot help anyone because I can't even help myself. There is nothing for me anywhere.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're a Moon in Pisces right? You act just like my boyfriend. Very depressed, very sensitive, hard to get out of their sadness..

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posted July 27, 2014 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I'm sorry. I empathize with you since I also have felt really left out before and too 'different' to fit in anywhere. However, there is a loving community for you out there, somewhere...you just can't quit and give up on the search. There is a book called 'the 5 dharmic types' [something like that] that I think would be really useful to you! Chiron-ASC can make you feel perpetually wounded concerning your identity. I have the square.

My dream is to find a group of friends that accept me…I have always wanted to just be a part of a group and feel safe. Maybe its because of my NN in Aqua … but I just feel very alone and now Im soon 25 so I think its too late now to find a nice group of friends.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
You're a Moon in Pisces right? You act just like my boyfriend. Very depressed, very sensitive, hard to get out of their sadness..

Yes the moon is my chart ruler and it is messed up, it only receives hard aspects. But it's not just me that is too sensitive, I have a thick skin outwardly (cancer ascendant) but people actually DO treat me badly, compared to others. It feels unfair when other people have such an easy time, but me, I have to work hard and it doesn't even pay off.

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posted July 27, 2014 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me. I have Virgo rising. I think Virgo risers just never really get much love or attention. I have Pluto, Neptune, Venus and Jupiter aspects to my asc but they are all trines or sextiles. So no harsh aspects to my ascendant at all. I also have moon sextile the ascendant does that mean people can read my feelings on my face? Because if they can that might be a reason people dislike me.

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