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T O P I C R E V I E WLionFishI have a few questions for anyone who had their mother pass away early in their lives. By early i mean before you reached the age of 20.What house is your moon in? (I have a theory not pertaining to this subject and would appreciate both Placidus and Equal house placements if you care to give them)What planets, if any, aspect your moon?What planets rule your 4th and 10th houses and how are they placed/aspected?What planets, if any, are located in your 4th/8th/10th houses?frankie2912Not me but my ex boyfriend lost his mother when he was 16. I will share his info for the sake of your research.His Moon is in his 3rd house (both placidus and equal)His Moon sextile Mercury, opposite Saturn, conjunct Chiron4th house ruler Mercury, trine Saturn, square Pluto, trine ASC..placed in 5th house.10th house ruler Jupiter sextile Mars, square Uranus, Chiron, and MC..conj ASC. Placed in 12th houseHe has Sun in 4th, Saturn at the end of his 8th, and Jupiter in 12th.teaselA man I used to know:His Sun conjunct Moon was in Taurus, in his 9th. Sextile Mars/Saturn in Cancer.Pluto ruled his Scorpio 4th, Venus would rule his 10th. (I'm going from memory.) Venus/Jupiter was probably in his 8th (Pisces).He lost his mother when he was a kid, and his father when he was in his mid-twenties.FaithWhat house is your moon in? (I have a theory not pertaining to this subject and would appreciate both Placidus and Equal house placements if you care to give them)8th house Placidus & equalWhat planets, if any, aspect your moon?My moon is sextile my sun, square Mars, and widely square Neptune. Trine NN.What planets rule your 4th and 10th houses and how are they placed/aspected?The way my chart is rectified, the IC is in Libra, with Venus in the 5H widely conjunct Neptune, trine Saturn, semisextile Uranus, novile sun.Mars rules the 10H and it is square my moon and Neptune, quincunx my sun, semisquare Saturn, sextile JupiterWhat planets, if any, are located in your 4th/8th/10th houses?4H - Uranus & NN8H - moon10H -SNCurious to see what you learn. karenkellybellaThe man I love lost his mother at age 2. Here is his chart LionFishThank you all for your responses Whether your loss or someone's close to you, the effects are felt by all who loved them and even by those who love the ones who love the deceased so I do apologize for possibly bring up the wound and thank you deeply for helping me I'm attempting to rectify a chart of an ex and I'm 99% sure he is a Cancer Asc. But where? I settled on an 8th house moon for him for a couple reasons.Faith, your Moon in the 8th house and my Sun in my 8th (equal only) are predicted to have the loss of the parent associated with that planet. Both of us had that unfortunate possibility manifest. With a Cancer Asc, my ex could easily have an 8th house Moon. The Asc degree I settled on (22 Cancer) gives him:An 8th house aqua moonMC ruler is Neptune in the 6th. If the 10th house ruler is another representative of the mother, Neptune in the 6th could indicate hidden illness. His mother died from a brain aneurysm that ruptured unbeknownst to her when she was in an elevator that fell the last 8 feet or so of its descent. She passed away 4 days later laying on her couch at home thinking she was lucky all she got was a broken leg. Thus, giving the reason for the mother's death shown by the 8H Moon.Pluto in the 4th is another indicator of losing a parent early, though not particular to either even though this is the house of the father. Pluto in the 4th shows a drastic change in one's early homelife; ie the death of a parent. Whereas Uranus could show sporadic involvement with family, possibly being viewed as the "crazy one" because you break family traditions.With the Asc at 22 cancer he has Pluto in his 4th conjunct Saturn.His 4th ruler would be Mercury in the 12th.I spent hours reading different astrologers' takes on Sun, Merc, Venus, and Mars in the houses and a 12th house Sun/Mars conjunction makes SO much sense. The truth of the matter is that I could have saved myself a bunch of time and just asked him his birth time, but that would involve talking to him and that's just not something i care to do FaithInteresting! I admire how you figured all of that out. Have you considered progressions? quote:Pluto in the 4th is another indicator of losing a parent earlyWhen my mother died:Tr Pluto 18.51 Scorpio My pr NN 18.45 Scorpio, in my progressed 4HSome additional stuff:Pr MC ruler Venus, 24 SagTr Venus 26 SagMy pr sun 0 AquaTr NN 28.58 CapNatal sun 15.47 CapTr Neptune 13.18 CapPr Neptune 13.10 SagTr Sun 17.19 Sag^^ Not sure if that's within orb to even mention.When my father died:More Neptune:My pr Neptune 13.34 Sag in 4HTr Jupiter 9.24 Sag, 4HMy pr sun 17.19 Aqua, 6HTr Neptune 18.19 Aqua, 6HMy natal moon 18.12 PiscesTr NN 17.54 PiscesPr MC ruler was VenusMy pr Venus 14 Cap conjunct my natal sun, my father's pr sun, & transiting sun-Mercury My pr Gemini Mars was in my 10HTr Mars conjunct his pr Mars exact when he died; he had a tight sun-Mars conjunction in Libra, natally.------My pr moon was ruled by Venus when both parents died: in Libra when my mother with my mother, Taurus with my father. Interesting because my mother had sun conjunct Venus natally, and as I said my father was a Libra.So strange, how it all comes together!LionFishFaith! You always have to remind me of progressions! So, of course I didn't check them It really is amazing the way everything is connected and relative, isn't it?I don't know his mother's birth info though, or the exact day she died. I only know my ex was 8 when it happened. Was the there anything that stood out in your solar return the years your parents passed? FaithLet's see...Solar return for the year my mother died:Sag ASC with Jupiter in the 8H sesquisquare 12H Pluto & quincunx Venus17.13 Scorpio Pluto, 12H11.25 Taurus moon, right on the 6H cusp^^ Wide opposition15.47 Cap sun, 2H16.14 Cap Saturn, 2H 13.27 Sag Mars, 1H quincunx Taurus moon12.13 Cap Uranus trine Taurus moon13.29 Cancer Chiron (8H) opposing 12 Cap Uranus & sun16.23 Aqua NN square my pr NNThis chart's IC is conjunct my natal Pisces moon.Not sure if any of this is helpful at all. At least we know the chart ruler is in the 8H, aspecting 12H Pluto. Solar Return for when my father died:Wow...never looked at this before...18.18 Aqua Neptune20.43 Leo moon24.11 Leo SaturnSo when my mother died, Saturn was conjunct the sun, and when my father died, Saturn was conjunct the moon. 13 Cap ASC, with Saturn on the 8H cusp, trine 12H Sag Mars & Pluto*** So again the chart ruler is in the 8H (or on the cusp, anyway), aspecting 12H Pluto.
What house is your moon in? (I have a theory not pertaining to this subject and would appreciate both Placidus and Equal house placements if you care to give them)
What planets, if any, aspect your moon?
What planets rule your 4th and 10th houses and how are they placed/aspected?
What planets, if any, are located in your 4th/8th/10th houses?
His Moon is in his 3rd house (both placidus and equal)
His Moon sextile Mercury, opposite Saturn, conjunct Chiron
4th house ruler Mercury, trine Saturn, square Pluto, trine ASC..placed in 5th house.
10th house ruler Jupiter sextile Mars, square Uranus, Chiron, and MC..conj ASC. Placed in 12th house
He has Sun in 4th, Saturn at the end of his 8th, and Jupiter in 12th.
His Sun conjunct Moon was in Taurus, in his 9th. Sextile Mars/Saturn in Cancer.
Pluto ruled his Scorpio 4th, Venus would rule his 10th. (I'm going from memory.) Venus/Jupiter was probably in his 8th (Pisces).
He lost his mother when he was a kid, and his father when he was in his mid-twenties.
8th house Placidus & equal
My moon is sextile my sun, square Mars, and widely square Neptune. Trine NN.
The way my chart is rectified, the IC is in Libra, with Venus in the 5H widely conjunct Neptune, trine Saturn, semisextile Uranus, novile sun.
Mars rules the 10H and it is square my moon and Neptune, quincunx my sun, semisquare Saturn, sextile Jupiter
4H - Uranus & NN8H - moon10H -SN
Curious to see what you learn.
I'm attempting to rectify a chart of an ex and I'm 99% sure he is a Cancer Asc. But where? I settled on an 8th house moon for him for a couple reasons.
Faith, your Moon in the 8th house and my Sun in my 8th (equal only) are predicted to have the loss of the parent associated with that planet. Both of us had that unfortunate possibility manifest. With a Cancer Asc, my ex could easily have an 8th house Moon. The Asc degree I settled on (22 Cancer) gives him:
An 8th house aqua moon
MC ruler is Neptune in the 6th. If the 10th house ruler is another representative of the mother, Neptune in the 6th could indicate hidden illness. His mother died from a brain aneurysm that ruptured unbeknownst to her when she was in an elevator that fell the last 8 feet or so of its descent. She passed away 4 days later laying on her couch at home thinking she was lucky all she got was a broken leg. Thus, giving the reason for the mother's death shown by the 8H Moon.
Pluto in the 4th is another indicator of losing a parent early, though not particular to either even though this is the house of the father. Pluto in the 4th shows a drastic change in one's early homelife; ie the death of a parent. Whereas Uranus could show sporadic involvement with family, possibly being viewed as the "crazy one" because you break family traditions.With the Asc at 22 cancer he has Pluto in his 4th conjunct Saturn.His 4th ruler would be Mercury in the 12th.
I spent hours reading different astrologers' takes on Sun, Merc, Venus, and Mars in the houses and a 12th house Sun/Mars conjunction makes SO much sense.
The truth of the matter is that I could have saved myself a bunch of time and just asked him his birth time, but that would involve talking to him and that's just not something i care to do
Have you considered progressions?
quote:Pluto in the 4th is another indicator of losing a parent early
When my mother died:Tr Pluto 18.51 Scorpio My pr NN 18.45 Scorpio, in my progressed 4H
Some additional stuff:
Pr MC ruler Venus, 24 SagTr Venus 26 Sag
My pr sun 0 AquaTr NN 28.58 Cap
Natal sun 15.47 CapTr Neptune 13.18 CapPr Neptune 13.10 SagTr Sun 17.19 Sag
^^ Not sure if that's within orb to even mention.
When my father died:
More Neptune:
My pr Neptune 13.34 Sag in 4HTr Jupiter 9.24 Sag, 4HMy pr sun 17.19 Aqua, 6HTr Neptune 18.19 Aqua, 6HMy natal moon 18.12 PiscesTr NN 17.54 Pisces
Pr MC ruler was VenusMy pr Venus 14 Cap conjunct my natal sun, my father's pr sun, & transiting sun-Mercury
My pr Gemini Mars was in my 10HTr Mars conjunct his pr Mars exact when he died; he had a tight sun-Mars conjunction in Libra, natally.
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My pr moon was ruled by Venus when both parents died: in Libra when my mother with my mother, Taurus with my father. Interesting because my mother had sun conjunct Venus natally, and as I said my father was a Libra.
So strange, how it all comes together!
It really is amazing the way everything is connected and relative, isn't it?
I don't know his mother's birth info though, or the exact day she died. I only know my ex was 8 when it happened. Was the there anything that stood out in your solar return the years your parents passed?
Solar return for the year my mother died:
Sag ASC with Jupiter in the 8H sesquisquare 12H Pluto & quincunx Venus
17.13 Scorpio Pluto, 12H11.25 Taurus moon, right on the 6H cusp
^^ Wide opposition
15.47 Cap sun, 2H16.14 Cap Saturn, 2H
13.27 Sag Mars, 1H quincunx Taurus moon12.13 Cap Uranus trine Taurus moon13.29 Cancer Chiron (8H) opposing 12 Cap Uranus & sun
16.23 Aqua NN square my pr NN
This chart's IC is conjunct my natal Pisces moon.
Not sure if any of this is helpful at all. At least we know the chart ruler is in the 8H, aspecting 12H Pluto.
Solar Return for when my father died:Wow...never looked at this before...
18.18 Aqua Neptune20.43 Leo moon24.11 Leo Saturn
So when my mother died, Saturn was conjunct the sun, and when my father died, Saturn was conjunct the moon.
13 Cap ASC, with Saturn on the 8H cusp, trine 12H Sag Mars & Pluto
*** So again the chart ruler is in the 8H (or on the cusp, anyway), aspecting 12H Pluto.
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