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T O P I C R E V I E WalludeuDo you think someone being more prone to intrusive thoughts can be shown in a natal chart? Could hard uranus mercury aspects be a reason why it happens?FaithYou mean, thoughts that come out of nowhere?I have Aqua Mercury square Uranus and this happens sometimes. However it's not really a big deal.colorful butterfly quote:Originally posted by alludeu:Do you think someone being more prone to intrusive thoughts can be shown in a natal chart? Could hard uranus mercury aspects be a reason why it happens?The thoughts that are associated with OCD. I have had them before, it's like getting a song in your head that you can't stop thinking on. (ear worm) I did some research on it and the two come from the same part of the brain. To stop them you actually need to be crazy and say the word stop. Something about hearing your own voice will stop the process. God, I hate to explain it but I would have thoughts of seeing bodies chopped up and plain gory things. Psycology wise it was like my minds way of telling myself I felt not all together. The mind is a tricky thing and how it works. What thoughts are you having and don't worry, they are just thoughts and it does not make something wrong with you. Anyone who understands OCD or educated knows there is a side to it that is not the most pleasant. Some people actually have thoughts of hurting someone they love or other things and then feel compelled to pray and omit that person out of their life. When in reality you wouldn't hurt a fly. A lot of times this comes from someone who loved you who hurt you and you realize something inside you that relates to them but doesn't mean you are them. My mom was schizophrenic, my grandmother placed on me whenever I didn't act according to her wishes " that I was going to be just like my mother" I subconsiously feared this although I never knew. So when my OCD came out, I thought I was literally losing my mind. It took a therapist to convince me that it can't happen to me, I am too old for it. That I was actually blessed to be a very bright young lady as she put it. Given all the chaos I grew up in and abuse that I endured statistically I should be an alcoholic, drug addict or checked out of life all together. I am none of these things and my mind found healthy people to bounce off of as she put it. To answer your question , I read that most people that are virgo rising have OCD.colorful butterflyMy chart only has uranus trine my sunmirage29Colorful Butterfly... quote "that I was going to be just like my mother" I subconsciously feared this although I never knew" ... Like your therapist said... past a certain age, you're in the clear. Find the way for you to get lots of self-nurturing, and self-acceptance. Build a solid inner identity knowing that she is a not-you, even if you have bio-bridge. Get with a trained grounded prayer minister, priest, or energy worker/practitioner... Energetically, 'break the power of words' spoken over you. Family curses... Alludeu ...If you're familiar with "Scarlet Moon" {Nico}, you might want to contact him with any OCD-related (psychological, metaphysical, astro questions) inquiries. A few years ago I think he presented materials on the topic. If you contact him... He might create a thorough Virgo-detailed video on that topic! (I think I'd heard that he may be looking for topic suggestions right now?) {IntegrativeMysticism.com} Also has a youtube channel ScarletMoon, which is where I viewed his mental-health vids a few years ago.Colorful Butterfly...For curiosity (re nervousness of being labelled with 'what mother had', mistakenly).Could I ask what your placement is for asteroid 26308 1998-SM-165? sign, degree, house. What/where your Moon is? Aspects to planets or points with #26308?(I'll be a little busier this week, perhaps, so if I don't get back right away to this post to see your answer, then, you'll know why. I have my volunteer work tomorrow, so I'll be gone most of the day.) If you have your chart posted anywhere, just leave link for me? ... No whole quote, so I can adjust this later.alludeu quote:Originally posted by Faith:You mean, thoughts that come out of nowhere?I have Aqua Mercury square Uranus and this happens sometimes. However it's not really a big deal.Colourful butterfly explained what i meant by intrusive thoughts alludeu quote:Originally posted by colorful butterfly: To answer your question , I read that most people that are virgo rising have OCD.Thank you for this reply I know personally some people who have OCD but havent talked to them about it nor have I gone to the doctors to see about it for myself. I am a virgo sun at 0 degrees maybe that gives me a strong virgo influence.alludeu quote:Originally posted by mirage29: Alludeu ...If you're familiar with "Scarlet Moon" {Nico}, you might want to contact him with any OCD-related (psychological, metaphysical, astro questions) inquiries. A few years ago I think he presented materials on the topic. If you contact him... He might create a thorough Virgo-detailed video on that topic! (I think I'd heard that he may be looking for topic suggestions right now?) {IntegrativeMysticism.com} Also has a youtube channel ScarletMoon, which is where I viewed his mental-health vids a few years ago.Could I ask what your placement is for asteroid [b]26308 1998-SM-165? sign, degree, house. What/where your Moon is? Aspects to planets or points with #26308?(I'll be a little busier this week, perhaps, so if I don't get back right away to this post to see your answer, then, you'll know why. I have my volunteer work tomorrow, so I'll be gone most of the day.) If you have your chart posted anywhere, just leave link for me? ... No whole quote, so I can adjust this later.[/B]I love watching his horoscopes!! Hes so great and accurate Also I have that asteroid conjunct ny ascendant! What does it mean?KoniuchaUranus in the 3rdMy daughter has this, square Jupiter and she has had some intrusive thoughts.Lerena quote:Originally posted by alludeu:Do you think someone being more prone to intrusive thoughts can be shown in a natal chart? Could hard uranus mercury aspects be a reason why it happens? It's possible. I have intrusive thoughts and Mercury square Uranus with an orb of 4. Granted, my intrusive thoughts are more repetitive. Without my medication, it takes me hours just to do simple activities due to the intrusive repetition of whatever I read or happen to be doing at the time. Fortunately, this doesn't happen quite as often as it used to, but it still happens sometimes.Electro DGXI have Mercury widely conjunct Uranus with Mercury in the third. I also have it with an exact conjunction to Neptune, and I have Uranus conjunct Sun in Aquarius. Intrusive thoughts are so common that I've just learned how to adapt to them and learn to live with them. Sometimes they can cause problems, but I've learned to utilize them to help me out instead of hindering me. If I was to have a disorder, it probably would be Maladaptive Daydreaming. Just a thought. ------------------Scorpio AscendantAquarius Sun in 4thGemini Moon in 8thCheck out my blog ya'll: www.electrodgxtalks.wordpress.comcolorful butterflyMirage29,Ok, I will look into those things but mostly my OCD is manageable . I get nervous to new stimuli and choatic situations, I do not like upset etc. I am not sure about the placements you are asking for but if you would like to look at my chart I was born July 2 1979, greensboro nc at 12:35 pm. I have moon in libra conjunct pluto in my first house. My virgo ascendant is conjunct my saturn in my 12 house.colorful butterfly quote:Originally posted by alludeu: Thank you for this reply I know personally some people who have OCD but havent talked to them about it nor have I gone to the doctors to see about it for myself. I am a virgo sun at 0 degrees maybe that gives me a strong virgo influence.I think so, most people I know with Virgo rising or Virgo influence have some form of OCD. I have never had anyone talk to me about intrusive thoughts, just more or less their fears. I had a guy that my daughter dated and he broke up with her, he was scared he would beat her one day like his dad beat his mom. He had OCD and I would talk to him about how you are not your parents, that you kinda realize one day that you could become them but it's kinda learning to trust yourself. Still the fear enabled him so bad he couldn't handle the fear. OCD is just anxiety in the body that the mind attaches to a subconcous fear.
I have Aqua Mercury square Uranus and this happens sometimes.
However it's not really a big deal.
quote:Originally posted by alludeu:Do you think someone being more prone to intrusive thoughts can be shown in a natal chart? Could hard uranus mercury aspects be a reason why it happens?
The thoughts that are associated with OCD. I have had them before, it's like getting a song in your head that you can't stop thinking on. (ear worm) I did some research on it and the two come from the same part of the brain. To stop them you actually need to be crazy and say the word stop. Something about hearing your own voice will stop the process. God, I hate to explain it but I would have thoughts of seeing bodies chopped up and plain gory things. Psycology wise it was like my minds way of telling myself I felt not all together. The mind is a tricky thing and how it works. What thoughts are you having and don't worry, they are just thoughts and it does not make something wrong with you. Anyone who understands OCD or educated knows there is a side to it that is not the most pleasant. Some people actually have thoughts of hurting someone they love or other things and then feel compelled to pray and omit that person out of their life. When in reality you wouldn't hurt a fly. A lot of times this comes from someone who loved you who hurt you and you realize something inside you that relates to them but doesn't mean you are them. My mom was schizophrenic, my grandmother placed on me whenever I didn't act according to her wishes " that I was going to be just like my mother" I subconsiously feared this although I never knew. So when my OCD came out, I thought I was literally losing my mind. It took a therapist to convince me that it can't happen to me, I am too old for it. That I was actually blessed to be a very bright young lady as she put it. Given all the chaos I grew up in and abuse that I endured statistically I should be an alcoholic, drug addict or checked out of life all together. I am none of these things and my mind found healthy people to bounce off of as she put it.
To answer your question , I read that most people that are virgo rising have OCD.
Like your therapist said... past a certain age, you're in the clear.
Find the way for you to get lots of self-nurturing, and self-acceptance. Build a solid inner identity knowing that she is a not-you, even if you have bio-bridge.
Get with a trained grounded prayer minister, priest, or energy worker/practitioner... Energetically, 'break the power of words' spoken over you. Family curses...
Alludeu ...
If you're familiar with "Scarlet Moon" {Nico}, you might want to contact him with any OCD-related (psychological, metaphysical, astro questions) inquiries. A few years ago I think he presented materials on the topic. If you contact him... He might create a thorough Virgo-detailed video on that topic! (I think I'd heard that he may be looking for topic suggestions right now?) {IntegrativeMysticism.com} Also has a youtube channel ScarletMoon, which is where I viewed his mental-health vids a few years ago.
Colorful Butterfly...For curiosity (re nervousness of being labelled with 'what mother had', mistakenly).
Could I ask what your placement is for asteroid 26308 1998-SM-165? sign, degree, house. What/where your Moon is? Aspects to planets or points with #26308?
(I'll be a little busier this week, perhaps, so if I don't get back right away to this post to see your answer, then, you'll know why. I have my volunteer work tomorrow, so I'll be gone most of the day.)
If you have your chart posted anywhere, just leave link for me? ...
No whole quote, so I can adjust this later.
quote:Originally posted by Faith:You mean, thoughts that come out of nowhere?I have Aqua Mercury square Uranus and this happens sometimes. However it's not really a big deal.
Colourful butterfly explained what i meant by intrusive thoughts
quote:Originally posted by colorful butterfly: To answer your question , I read that most people that are virgo rising have OCD.
Thank you for this reply I know personally some people who have OCD but havent talked to them about it nor have I gone to the doctors to see about it for myself. I am a virgo sun at 0 degrees maybe that gives me a strong virgo influence.
quote:Originally posted by mirage29: Alludeu ...If you're familiar with "Scarlet Moon" {Nico}, you might want to contact him with any OCD-related (psychological, metaphysical, astro questions) inquiries. A few years ago I think he presented materials on the topic. If you contact him... He might create a thorough Virgo-detailed video on that topic! (I think I'd heard that he may be looking for topic suggestions right now?) {IntegrativeMysticism.com} Also has a youtube channel ScarletMoon, which is where I viewed his mental-health vids a few years ago.Could I ask what your placement is for asteroid [b]26308 1998-SM-165? sign, degree, house. What/where your Moon is? Aspects to planets or points with #26308?(I'll be a little busier this week, perhaps, so if I don't get back right away to this post to see your answer, then, you'll know why. I have my volunteer work tomorrow, so I'll be gone most of the day.) If you have your chart posted anywhere, just leave link for me? ... No whole quote, so I can adjust this later.[/B]
Could I ask what your placement is for asteroid [b]26308 1998-SM-165? sign, degree, house. What/where your Moon is? Aspects to planets or points with #26308?
No whole quote, so I can adjust this later.[/B]
I love watching his horoscopes!! Hes so great and accurate
Also I have that asteroid conjunct ny ascendant! What does it mean?
My daughter has this, square Jupiter and she has had some intrusive thoughts.
If I was to have a disorder, it probably would be Maladaptive Daydreaming. Just a thought.
------------------Scorpio AscendantAquarius Sun in 4thGemini Moon in 8thCheck out my blog ya'll: www.electrodgxtalks.wordpress.com
Ok, I will look into those things but mostly my OCD is manageable . I get nervous to new stimuli and choatic situations, I do not like upset etc.
I am not sure about the placements you are asking for but if you would like to look at my chart I was born July 2 1979, greensboro nc at 12:35 pm. I have moon in libra conjunct pluto in my first house. My virgo ascendant is conjunct my saturn in my 12 house.
quote:Originally posted by alludeu: Thank you for this reply I know personally some people who have OCD but havent talked to them about it nor have I gone to the doctors to see about it for myself. I am a virgo sun at 0 degrees maybe that gives me a strong virgo influence.
I think so, most people I know with Virgo rising or Virgo influence have some form of OCD. I have never had anyone talk to me about intrusive thoughts, just more or less their fears. I had a guy that my daughter dated and he broke up with her, he was scared he would beat her one day like his dad beat his mom. He had OCD and I would talk to him about how you are not your parents, that you kinda realize one day that you could become them but it's kinda learning to trust yourself. Still the fear enabled him so bad he couldn't handle the fear. OCD is just anxiety in the body that the mind attaches to a subconcous fear.
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