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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
My son has Sun and Mars conjunct Ic.What his mother and I are going through sounds like the 1st response. His Pluto is in the ninth with mine in the tenth.
I've been studying numerology as well. We both have the same core number except one set. We are both 11's so it looks like that really being understood by one parent description may be the theme unfortunately. To tell you the truth, I feel like I've been through it before
Sun/Mars to IC brings the war(Mars) to the home(Mars). If arching from the 3rd house, it suggests the father is someone interested in spiritual pursuits especially when Sun is also there(3rd)
The 4th house is how your son sees you(the Ic Ic is the Dad). And so the 3rd house is the 12th house from the Ic. So the Dad(Ic) who has planets conjunct the Ic from the 3rd(12th from the Ic),is seen from that perspective.
So the father has anger issues or some difficulty in expressing himself well(Mars and Sun in the 12th house from the Ic).
There is also likely some illusive quality to the Dad that makes it difficult to see what his motivations for acting are etc. Do you see your son often?
Anger blowouts that are a culmination of pent up anger or feeling a sense of powerlessness or inability to assert oneself well( is also suggested)from the father(12th house Sun/Mars conj)
If Mars/Sun is in the 4th, the father is force and is often feared. They are seen as a strong passionate force with decisiveness and a tendency to bully/lead from the front( depending on the perspective)
At home, the Dad is the one in change and making all the decisions and it is likely that with Mars in 4th, marital separation is likely or may result (Mars opposes the 10th house which is the Mother/spouse). More especially if conjunct the Ic from the 4th.
The Dad's personality is seen by the chart holder as very Aries-like; at times very selfish and demanding. At other times brave and effective.
Dad keeps a gun, Dad keeps knifes, Dad runs the homes like a drill sergeant, Dad practices corporal punishment, Dad shouts, Dad expresses hot emotions etc
I have Moon in 3rd and Moon conjuncts the Ic from the 3rd. My father (Ic) had his identity hidden from me from a young age (ruler of 4th in 3rd). My real father is not the father I grew up with.
But it doesn't change the vibrational energy of the chart because;
From my perspective (Ic)even my Step-Dad has a strong Neptune/12th house personality; not easily definable, illusive etc.
If he cared(Moon) for me, it was hidden from me(3rd house Moon is 12th from the 4th house).
Step Dad is also Cancer Sun(Ic sign). And he has Saturn/Moon conjunct which makes him emotionally dry. So the caring part(Moon) is suppressed in his chart and this echoes the Moon being in the 12th house from the Ic.
My step-Dad feels very awkward expressing emotions with all his children. He never has. And has always been a highly unstable person emotionally (Cancer Ic /Moon conj Ic)
My sister has Pluto in 3rd(empty 4th)whilst the youngest has Mars there(empty 4th). As far as they can also attest from their perspectives, he has not been the model Dad. Both see him as tyrannical and violent (Pluto/Mars respectively).