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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Thank you for the info Aries23Degrees. Yeah, I got a strong sense of her Venus-Saturn from the get go, and how it works that way. With Jupiter, I figure that Jupiter indicates a deeper, spiritual connection between us, and not just physical attraction. Strong Jupiter contacts are often related to having an unusual tolerance and laid backness to the other person's expression, to seeing them more positively than not, in short, a higher kind of Love in a way. Along with the empathy, psychic connection, and positive feelings, Jupiter also indicates a meeting of the higher mind. Almost the whole package in a way. Purple passion ; ) perhaps?
Interesting how you find Venus-Mars more blah or meh. I experience it very differently, the rare times I share this aspect with some, whether their Mars to my Venus or my Venus to their Mars, there is a strong magnetic pull at least on my part.
It seems more mutual, oddly, when it's their Mars and my Venus opposite signs, only because it also means that their Mars is the same Sign as my Rising Sign, so besides the Venus-Mars polarity attraction (the nature of them being opposite complements and the opposition), they are also often sexually attracted to my body and general vibe anyways.
I wonder if it may be somewhat different in your case since you're a male attracting/being attracted to other males? Like maybe the traditional Yin-Yang polarity thing isn't quite as strong, but like masculine/Yang energies (i.e. Sun, Mars, Jupiter to Mars, Jupiter, and/or Sun) is stronger for you?
I don't know, just hypothesizing. While I've had friends who are gay, I've never deeply analyzed their relationships and attraction patterns in relation to astrology.
I hope these questions/hypothesis's don't offend or make you feel uncomfortable.
Oh no. Not at all.Good question.
Thing is that I don't see physical sex categories which are largely man made i.e "male" or "female" as how the Universe views us as beings.
For one, we label people born with both genitalia as "freaks" or "abnormals" -as if the creator(whom we ironically praise as being infallible) can paradoxically make "mistakes"
On a second level, the strict yin/yang energy does not vibrate through the fixed male/ female labels we give to babies in a consistent fashion.
This then readily has us confuse children by giving labels to a body that is born with a sexless spirit and asking the spirit to "conform" to rules of its anatomical gender specificafions.
So children feeling themselves as "masculine" in spirit in a "female" physique etc. Feel the conflict.They do what they can do to "conform" by shifting genders because that is what is "acceptable" to society.
Now extend the spirit feeling that does not recognise "male/female" through physical body but through kindred fellowship in attraction-regardless of body label.
What we have here is "blasphemous" same sex attraction that is taught to ALL(boys esp) of its intrinsic "evil".
So you get men who are confused when they get attracted to other men. See themselves as an "abomination". The range of attraction varies between one end of the spectrum to another.
They don't know they are lied to .They are taught that they are their body. They are rather a spirit-sexless and uninhibited- having human experience through the instrument called "the body".
So in my case,my spirit is drawn to "guys" in a romantic way.True.But "women" are also attractive to me. And that's because I am drawn to spirit fundamentally.
The difference is that my spirit seems to be intent on largely exploring platonic relationships with spirits who have the physical body of "women".
But say I meet a transgendered male(there are not that many in my country)whom I am attracted to physically because of having the "male" vehicle . Spirit would(I imagine) say "yes".
That's why straight identifying men can/are drawn to drag artists or transgendered females. Especially when their spirit is interested in having an experience with another spirit whom is in the physical body of a "woman".
My sister (straight identifying) admittedthat she found Caster Semenya(intersex world race champion athlete) "sexy". Caster does embody the physical characteristics of "male"-even when born as termed "female".
I like the balance of this divine paradox. Dont be hyper masculine or excessively feminine either. As I see both as soul tantrums of wanting attention from the outside and not doing enough work internally.
Many people complain about feminine guys being "flamboyant" or "too much". But I see the "thug" persona of Hip Hop or "butch" Jock type image as another form of flamboyancy and being "too much".
Be moderate and come back to the middle. A muscular guy who does ballet. Or a feminine looking male who specialises in martial arts etc. I don't know how to explain it. But my d*** don't lie.
The attraction of my Mars in Libra to Sun/Jup in Lib is admittedly because of the mix of a masc planet in a moderate energy like Lib.
Venus(feminine) in Scorpio(co-ruled by masc Mars) seems to support this ideal intellectually.
With Jup in Sag(both masc admittedly) my attraction to Sun/Mars in Sag is due to the flexible(mutable) nature of Sag.
Sag energy is not as fiery/impetuous as Aries or as fixed/stubborn as Leo. So there is plenty room for compromising and intellectual discernment with Sag.
I also have "hermaphrodite" Uranus in the 8th house of sexual intimacy and "open-ended" Neptune conj the 5th house ruler (Sun).