posted January 28, 2020 05:58 PM            

If 11th is for friends which house would be for significant others moon placement? 7th house? I personally don’t find the 7th house always romantic and know it can be about contracts and partnerships. Is this a good synastry aspect in relationships - moon in 7th overlay?

posted January 28, 2020 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
4th house sounds good to me followed by 2nd house.

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posted January 30, 2020 01:40 AM            

The orbs must be tight though-I would think the tighter, the more active.

Its not always attraction but can also be very strong repulsion (another form of a relationship)

I know people peg Venus and Moon. But experience has taught me that those two are more for friendship or emotional rapport.

Outright strong physical attraction is Mars, Jupiter & Sun on the Angles.Then the rapport is Moon and Venus.

Jup,Mars,Sun planets create an opportunity through attraction. The Moon/Ven sustains the attraction and makes a relationship possible.

posted January 30, 2020 02:44 AM            

In my case, it can and often does, but I always chalked that up to the fact that it rules my 5th and co-rules my 8th Houses, which are both strongly involved with strong physical and sexual attraction.

My Mars Jupiter conjunction is conjunct a person's ASC who I am very strongly attracted to, and Jupiter in particular is conjunct her ASC with less than a degree of separation if her chart is completely accurate.

To further bolster this pattern, her Venus-Saturn conjunction is in opposition to that Mars Jupiter conjunction. Saturn rules her 5th House, is in her 7th House, and both her Venus and Saturn are in my 8th House. (Doesn't help that I have a strong combo/blend of Cap and Aqua).

That's a whole lot of mutual 5th and 8th stuff combined with the powerful attraction of opposite signs and with the powerful merging of conjunctions.

And that's only one small slice of the synastric chart comparison. For a couple other brief examples, Mars rules her Sun and 8th, and co rules her Moon, and is almost exactly conjunct my ASC while also being in opposition aspect with my Venus.

Or, her Moon in my 4th and conjunct my Uranus, ruler of my Venus and DESC. (I could keep going but y'all are probably bored and this the wrong section).

posted January 30, 2020 04:23 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Interesting about Jupiter relating to strong physical attraction. Wouldn't have figured that in a more general sense.

In my case, it can and often does, but I always chalked that up to the fact that it rules my 5th and co-rules my 8th Houses, which are both strongly involved with strong physical and sexual attraction.

My Mars Jupiter conjunction is conjunct a person's ASC who I am very strongly attracted to, and Jupiter in particular is conjunct her ASC with less than a degree of separation if her chart is completely accurate.

To further bolster this pattern, her Venus-Saturn conjunction is in opposition to that Mars Jupiter conjunction. Saturn rules her 5th House, is in her 7th House, and both her Venus and Saturn are in my 8th House. (Doesn't help that I have a strong combo/blend of Cap and Aqua).

That's a whole lot of mutual 5th and 8th stuff combined with the powerful attraction of opposite signs and with the powerful merging of conjunctions.

And that's only one small slice of the synastric chart comparison. For a couple other brief examples, Mars rules her Sun and 8th, and co rules her Moon, and is almost exactly conjunct my ASC while also being in opposition aspect with my Venus.

Or, her Moon in my 4th and conjunct my Uranus, ruler of my Venus and DESC. (I could keep going but y'all are probably bored and this the wrong section).

No wonder why I felt like a human, giant magnet when I was around her. Good friqqen lord.

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Your Mars/Jup on her Asc is the force of the attraction you feel for her.Its this force that has a "I dont care. I want you" energy to it.

Her Venus-Saturn involvement with it however, may put the breaks on all that energy that you come with.

She may like you too.But Ven/Sat errs towards caution & slowing things down. I know all this because of being the Ven/Sat natal chart holder myself.This aspect puts on the breaks. Fast!

The thing i have experienced with Sun/Mars &Jup in my case,is that they "externalize" the force of attraction considerably.

Venus/Mars for me is meh ime.I look at Jup/ Mars,Sun/Jup and Mars/Sun as far as sexual attraction is concerned.And they don't disappoint.

I think the presence of strong aspects INVOLVING Ven/Mars or Sun/Moon create both sexual and emotional attraction (ideally).

But this doesn't mean that they have to DIRECTLY interact with each other as in isolation i.e your Venus/their Mars etc. That's where we get it wrong.

posted February 03, 2020 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Your Mars/Jup on her Asc is the force of the attraction you feel for her.Its this force that has a "I dont care. I want you" energy to it.

Her Venus-Saturn involvement with it however, may put the breaks on all that energy that you come with.

She may like you too.But Ven/Sat errs towards caution & slowing things down. I know all this because of being the Ven/Sat natal chart holder myself.This aspect puts on the breaks. Fast!

The thing i have experienced with Sun/Mars &Jup in my case,is that they "externalize" the force of attraction considerably.

Venus/Mars for me is meh ime.I look at Jup/ Mars,Sun/Jup and Mars/Sun as far as sexual attraction is concerned.And they don't disappoint.

I think the presence of strong aspects INVOLVING Ven/Mars or Sun/Moon create both sexual and emotional attraction (ideally).

But this doesn't mean that they have to DIRECTLY interact with each other as in isolation i.e your Venus/their Mars etc. That's where we get it wrong.

It could mean Mars reacts with their Sun/Jup and Mars in another.Then their Ven interacts with your Venu/Merc/Moon OR your Moon with
their Venus/Merc or Moon etc.

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Thank you for the info Aries23Degrees. Yeah, I got a strong sense of her Venus-Saturn from the get go, and how it works that way.

With Jupiter, I figure that Jupiter indicates a deeper, spiritual connection between us, and not just physical attraction. Strong Jupiter contacts are often related to having an unusual tolerance and laid backness to the other person's expression, to seeing them more positively than not, in short, a higher kind of Love in a way. Along with the empathy, psychic connection, and positive feelings, Jupiter also indicates a meeting of the higher mind. Almost the whole package in a way. Purple passion ; ) perhaps?

Interesting how you find Venus-Mars more blah or meh. I experience it very differently, the rare times I share this aspect with some, whether their Mars to my Venus or my Venus to their Mars, there is a strong magnetic pull at least on my part.

It seems more mutual, oddly, when it's their Mars and my Venus opposite signs, only because it also means that their Mars is the same Sign as my Rising Sign, so besides the Venus-Mars polarity attraction (the nature of them being opposite complements and the opposition), they are also often sexually attracted to my body and general vibe anyways.

I wonder if it may be somewhat different in your case since you're a male attracting/being attracted to other males? Like maybe the traditional Yin-Yang polarity thing isn't quite as strong, but like masculine/Yang energies (i.e. Sun, Mars, Jupiter to Mars, Jupiter, and/or Sun) is stronger for you?

I don't know, just hypothesizing. While I've had friends who are gay, I've never deeply analyzed their relationships and attraction patterns in relation to astrology.

I hope these questions/hypothesis's don't offend or make you feel uncomfortable.

posted February 08, 2020 06:33 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Thank you for the info Aries23Degrees. Yeah, I got a strong sense of her Venus-Saturn from the get go, and how it works that way.

With Jupiter, I figure that Jupiter indicates a deeper, spiritual connection between us, and not just physical attraction. Strong Jupiter contacts are often related to having an unusual tolerance and laid backness to the other person's expression, to seeing them more positively than not, in short, a higher kind of Love in a way. Along with the empathy, psychic connection, and positive feelings, Jupiter also indicates a meeting of the higher mind. Almost the whole package in a way. Purple passion ; ) perhaps?

Interesting how you find Venus-Mars more blah or meh. I experience it very differently, the rare times I share this aspect with some, whether their Mars to my Venus or my Venus to their Mars, there is a strong magnetic pull at least on my part.

It seems more mutual, oddly, when it's their Mars and my Venus opposite signs, only because it also means that their Mars is the same Sign as my Rising Sign, so besides the Venus-Mars polarity attraction (the nature of them being opposite complements and the opposition), they are also often sexually attracted to my body and general vibe anyways.

I wonder if it may be somewhat different in your case since you're a male attracting/being attracted to other males? Like maybe the traditional Yin-Yang polarity thing isn't quite as strong, but like masculine/Yang energies (i.e. Sun, Mars, Jupiter to Mars, Jupiter, and/or Sun) is stronger for you?

I don't know, just hypothesizing. While I've had friends who are gay, I've never deeply analyzed their relationships and attraction patterns in relation to astrology.

I hope these questions/hypothesis's don't offend or make you feel uncomfortable.

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Oh no. Not at all.Good question.

Thing is that I don't see physical sex categories which are largely man made i.e "male" or "female" as how the Universe views us as beings.

For one, we label people born with both genitalia as "freaks" or "abnormals" -as if the creator(whom we ironically praise as being infallible) can paradoxically make "mistakes"

On a second level, the strict yin/yang energy does not vibrate through the fixed male/ female labels we give to babies in a consistent fashion.

This then readily has us confuse children by giving labels to a body that is born with a sexless spirit and asking the spirit to "conform" to rules of its anatomical gender specificafions.

So children feeling themselves as "masculine" in spirit in a "female" physique etc. Feel the conflict.They do what they can do to "conform" by shifting genders because that is what is "acceptable" to society.

Now extend the spirit feeling that does not recognise "male/female" through physical body but through kindred fellowship in attraction-regardless of body label.

What we have here is "blasphemous" same sex attraction that is taught to ALL(boys esp) of its intrinsic "evil".

So you get men who are confused when they get attracted to other men. See themselves as an "abomination". The range of attraction varies between one end of the spectrum to another.

They don't know they are lied to .They are taught that they are their body. They are rather a spirit-sexless and uninhibited- having human experience through the instrument called "the body".

So in my case,my spirit is drawn to "guys" in a romantic way.True.But "women" are also attractive to me. And that's because I am drawn to spirit fundamentally.

The difference is that my spirit seems to be intent on largely exploring platonic relationships with spirits who have the physical body of "women".

But say I meet a transgendered male(there are not that many in my country)whom I am attracted to physically because of having the "male" vehicle . Spirit would(I imagine) say "yes".

That's why straight identifying men can/are drawn to drag artists or transgendered females. Especially when their spirit is interested in having an experience with another spirit whom is in the physical body of a "woman".

My sister (straight identifying) admittedthat she found Caster Semenya(intersex world race champion athlete) "sexy". Caster does embody the physical characteristics of "male"-even when born as termed "female".

I like the balance of this divine paradox. Dont be hyper masculine or excessively feminine either. As I see both as soul tantrums of wanting attention from the outside and not doing enough work internally.

Many people complain about feminine guys being "flamboyant" or "too much". But I see the "thug" persona of Hip Hop or "butch" Jock type image as another form of flamboyancy and being "too much".

Be moderate and come back to the middle. A muscular guy who does ballet. Or a feminine looking male who specialises in martial arts etc. I don't know how to explain it. But my d*** don't lie.

The attraction of my Mars in Libra to Sun/Jup in Lib is admittedly because of the mix of a masc planet in a moderate energy like Lib.

Venus(feminine) in Scorpio(co-ruled by masc Mars) seems to support this ideal intellectually.

With Jup in Sag(both masc admittedly) my attraction to Sun/Mars in Sag is due to the flexible(mutable) nature of Sag.

Sag energy is not as fiery/impetuous as Aries or as fixed/stubborn as Leo. So there is plenty room for compromising and intellectual discernment with Sag.