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T O P I C R E V I E WSaraiDoes anyone have any interpretations of one person's Juno conjuncting the other person's Chiron?S praecipuahi sarai, i found something but it's probably just a start, as it gives only a vague idea.from: http://tribes.tribe.net/celestial_bodies/thread/2605016e-96c2-4a6c-afa7-3710f64c3df6 (they've got so much information on that website it's crazy.)by Carrol Willis Chiron by conjunction in relationship synastry can bring great attraction and common interests, then sudden, inexplicable and bizarre reversals - the potential for mutual growth is enormous if the parties don't destroy each other and themselves in the process. Ceres conjunctions and midpoints in synastry enhance the quality of any kind of relationship due to the desire of the Ceres person to provide comfort, patience, and unconditional love to another. Juno conjunctions and midpoints in synastry provide points of attraction and greater likelihood of long-term collaboration. Pallas may also deal with sexual intimacy among women, as seen by aspect and synastry. In synastry, Vesta is a comfortable hearth of gentle warmth and good feelings. The Vertex point is found on the right side of the chart, and has been called an "unconscious Descendant," and is a very sensitive point having to do with relationship and partnership matters. Another person's planets conjunct one's vertex can be highly significant in a relationship. Vertex midpoints in synastry also pertain to the nature of close relationships. Conjunctions to the Vertex and Vertex midpoints in synastry often have a "karmic" feeling about them. praecipuain the light of this article, it seems a good thing, that could turn sour if the negative side of chiron dominates (hurt...). only a guessesperanceThis is interesting, because I have a few aspects of both Chiron and Juno with someone I really like, the most interesting aspect that I can never find an interpretation for is his Chiron squared my Juno. EighthMoonHi Sarai! Here is the Magi interp of Juno conj. Chiron:[JUNO CONJUNCT YOUR CHIRON]LIFETIME PARTNERSHIP LINKAGE. ULTIMATE LONG-TERM SEXUAL LINKAGE. CHIRON LINKAGE. Normally, a linkage formed with Juno results in a Juno Linkage and creates attraction based on some kind of dream that is just an illusion about your relationship and each other. In other words, a Juno Linkage casts a Juno Spell over you. Fortunately, sooner or later during good transits, the Juno Spell can be broken and you wake up from the spell; when you do, the attraction you felt fizzles out and you want out of the relationship. But this linkage is not that way. This is not a Juno Linkage but this is a Chiron Linkage because Chiron overpowers Juno's bewitching power. Like most Juno Linkages, this Chiron Linkage does create sexual attraction and need, but unlike Juno Linkages, the attraction and need last a lifetime. You will feel like you are under a Juno Spell but it is different because this linkage comes with romantic attraction that also lasts a lifetime. For both these reasons, this is the one of the most powerful linkages at creating lifelong relationships. Like Juno Linkages, this linkage also fosters mutual dreams and mutual illusions - but in this case, they just about never die, and therefore help the two of you to stay together even in the worst of times. If the two of you also have other Chiron Linkages, and you are both each other's type, or not too far from it, then you could fall in love and the chances are very high you will have a very long-term relationship. Even if you are not each other's type, the romantic and sexual attraction and the dreams and illusions this linkage produces can help the two of you to overlook problems as well as each other's shortcomings, and therefore you may still end up in love. However, this is just one single Chiron Linkage and it is not all the two of you need and unless you also have a Romantic Super Linkage or great Grand Trines, your relationship will be just about always a challenge - because relationships founded on Juno are always a challenge.Esperance,Here is their interp for the square:[JUNO SQUARE YOUR CHIRON]JUNO SUPER CLASH. This clash is a turn-off and normally has the immediate effects of disenchantment. It is so unlikely the two of you will fall in love, or become intimate, that the odds are very high that trying to get started with this person is a waste of time. http://www.magiastrology.com/juno.htm As I've said on here before, their interpretations are VERY dramatic. Don't let it burst your bubble.Check out this article for some great indepth info: http://www.neptunecafe.com/Juno.html And more info on the asteroids: http://www.astrograph.com/learning-astrology/planets.php http://www.astrologycom.com/aster.html LL thread w/ Juno conj Chiron: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012348.html http://www.internationalastrologers.com/love_astroids.htm And for a different slant on Juno: http://www.astroinvestigators.com/marrsyn.htm 8thSaraipraecipua, cool name! Thanks so much for the info!esperance: good luck with your special someone!EighthMoon: Hellllloo!! Thanks so much for the info!!!S esperanceThanks so much Sarai & EighthMoon!I actually have the Magi book and program but they don't cover the Juno/Chiron clash, so I knoooow how dramatic they can be with interpretations. thank you again LeoCatI had three super romantic linkages with one guy including 3 of those cinderella linkages. We're no longer dating.darkdreamerWell, LeoCat,even the Magi astrologer say that having those nice super romantic linkages is not a guarantee a couple will stay together. They may feel an attraction due to these Cinderella linkages and RSL, but if it goes any further, depends a lot on the rest of their charts.DDetheric distortionIt also depends on the chart of your first meeting, and the first time y'all had sex, AND the timing of the marriage chart as well.. Again, my (new agey) interpretation of what they are saying , is that EVERYTHING is ENERGY, and ENERGY is always in FLUX.. Therefore, the TIMING of things ( i.e. the Birth of a new action for you or anyone/anything else) ALWAYS carries a specific energy signature, which also reacts (in a positive AND negative ways) with OTHER entities' energy ( i.e. the birth charts of people/places/corporations/new activities etc.) To deduce the areas of the specific harmony or friction, you look at the specific aspects between both charts. ( and apply the appropriate planetary symbologies to deduce the areas of harmony and friction) If you have great synastry with another chart, BUT, also are going experiencing negative transits when you first experience contact with the other chart /energy/person/place/thing etc., your experience with that chart will not be "optimal" BECAUSE you, yourself, are not in a n "optimal" condition to interact appropriatly with that chart's energy (i.e you are having BAD transits). I hope that makes sense ( it makes sense to me anyway )etheric distortionI would also like to add, that in my Heliocentric chart.. TONIGHT.. there is a Grand trine forming : Transiting Mars, trining BOTH my mercury AND venus ( I have a less than 1 degree trine of both planets in my helio chart)..... So, my point being,that, if you are "swayed" by my arguments tonight, It MIGHT be because of the Grand Trine in my Helio chart occuring RIGHT NOW!!! as I type!!! ( Get IT?!!)LeoCatGod, dating is so complicated now.amelia28I can attest to Juno/chiron aspect in synastry but from nodal to tropic.RandallMoving to Interpersonal Astrology.EllynlvxOh, good.At least Someone can answer my questions.EllynlvxFrom the Grave.
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from: http://tribes.tribe.net/celestial_bodies/thread/2605016e-96c2-4a6c-afa7-3710f64c3df6
(they've got so much information on that website it's crazy.)
by Carrol Willis Chiron by conjunction in relationship synastry can bring great attraction and common interests, then sudden, inexplicable and bizarre reversals - the potential for mutual growth is enormous if the parties don't destroy each other and themselves in the process.
Ceres conjunctions and midpoints in synastry enhance the quality of any kind of relationship due to the desire of the Ceres person to provide comfort, patience, and unconditional love to another.
Juno conjunctions and midpoints in synastry provide points of attraction and greater likelihood of long-term collaboration.
Pallas may also deal with sexual intimacy among women, as seen by aspect and synastry.
In synastry, Vesta is a comfortable hearth of gentle warmth and good feelings.
The Vertex point is found on the right side of the chart, and has been called an "unconscious Descendant," and is a very sensitive point having to do with relationship and partnership matters. Another person's planets conjunct one's vertex can be highly significant in a relationship. Vertex midpoints in synastry also pertain to the nature of close relationships. Conjunctions to the Vertex and Vertex midpoints in synastry often have a "karmic" feeling about them.
Here is the Magi interp of Juno conj. Chiron:
[JUNO CONJUNCT YOUR CHIRON]LIFETIME PARTNERSHIP LINKAGE. ULTIMATE LONG-TERM SEXUAL LINKAGE. CHIRON LINKAGE. Normally, a linkage formed with Juno results in a Juno Linkage and creates attraction based on some kind of dream that is just an illusion about your relationship and each other. In other words, a Juno Linkage casts a Juno Spell over you. Fortunately, sooner or later during good transits, the Juno Spell can be broken and you wake up from the spell; when you do, the attraction you felt fizzles out and you want out of the relationship.
But this linkage is not that way.
This is not a Juno Linkage but this is a Chiron Linkage because Chiron overpowers Juno's bewitching power. Like most Juno Linkages, this Chiron Linkage does create sexual attraction and need, but unlike Juno Linkages, the attraction and need last a lifetime. You will feel like you are under a Juno Spell but it is different because this linkage comes with romantic attraction that also lasts a lifetime. For both these reasons, this is the one of the most powerful linkages at creating lifelong relationships.
Like Juno Linkages, this linkage also fosters mutual dreams and mutual illusions - but in this case, they just about never die, and therefore help the two of you to stay together even in the worst of times.
If the two of you also have other Chiron Linkages, and you are both each other's type, or not too far from it, then you could fall in love and the chances are very high you will have a very long-term relationship.
Even if you are not each other's type, the romantic and sexual attraction and the dreams and illusions this linkage produces can help the two of you to overlook problems as well as each other's shortcomings, and therefore you may still end up in love. However, this is just one single Chiron Linkage and it is not all the two of you need and unless you also have a Romantic Super Linkage or great Grand Trines, your relationship will be just about always a challenge - because relationships founded on Juno are always a challenge.
Esperance,
Here is their interp for the square:
[JUNO SQUARE YOUR CHIRON]JUNO SUPER CLASH. This clash is a turn-off and normally has the immediate effects of disenchantment. It is so unlikely the two of you will fall in love, or become intimate, that the odds are very high that trying to get started with this person is a waste of time. http://www.magiastrology.com/juno.htm
As I've said on here before, their interpretations are VERY dramatic. Don't let it burst your bubble.
Check out this article for some great indepth info: http://www.neptunecafe.com/Juno.html
And more info on the asteroids: http://www.astrograph.com/learning-astrology/planets.php http://www.astrologycom.com/aster.html
LL thread w/ Juno conj Chiron: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012348.html http://www.internationalastrologers.com/love_astroids.htm
And for a different slant on Juno: http://www.astroinvestigators.com/marrsyn.htm
8th
esperance: good luck with your special someone!
EighthMoon: Hellllloo!! Thanks so much for the info!!!
I actually have the Magi book and program but they don't cover the Juno/Chiron clash, so I knoooow how dramatic they can be with interpretations. thank you again
even the Magi astrologer say that having those nice super romantic linkages is not a guarantee a couple will stay together. They may feel an attraction due to these Cinderella linkages and RSL, but if it goes any further, depends a lot on the rest of their charts.
DD
Again, my (new agey) interpretation of what they are saying , is that EVERYTHING is ENERGY, and ENERGY is always in FLUX.. Therefore, the TIMING of things ( i.e. the Birth of a new action for you or anyone/anything else) ALWAYS carries a specific energy signature, which also reacts (in a positive AND negative ways) with OTHER entities' energy ( i.e. the birth charts of people/places/corporations/new activities etc.)
To deduce the areas of the specific harmony or friction, you look at the specific aspects between both charts. ( and apply the appropriate planetary symbologies to deduce the areas of harmony and friction)
If you have great synastry with another chart, BUT, also are going experiencing negative transits when you first experience contact with the other chart /energy/person/place/thing etc., your experience with that chart will not be "optimal" BECAUSE you, yourself, are not in a n "optimal" condition to interact appropriatly with that chart's energy (i.e you are having BAD transits).
I hope that makes sense ( it makes sense to me anyway )
So, my point being,that, if you are "swayed" by my arguments tonight, It MIGHT be because of the Grand Trine in my Helio chart occuring RIGHT NOW!!! as I type!!! ( Get IT?!!)
At least Someone can answer my questions.
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