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T O P I C R E V I E WAmi AnneYou gasp at this title. Well, there are certain aspects that are that detrimental that I would not start a relationship, even if the rest of the chart was stellar( or pristine). Some I have experienced personally. Some I have seen in clients. I do not like to write theoretical Astrology i.e writing about things that I have not experienced. However, one must do this because one cannot experience everything. However, I, always, have more confidence( and force) when I have been burned by the aspect *SIGH*1.Chiron Conjunct the North NodeI was the North Node. He was the Chiron. I think the relationship is much more painful for the North Node person because the Chiron person BRINGS the pain. It is not as noticeable to him because he lives with it daily. I have to be blunt or why waste your time reading? In this case, there were so very, very lovely synastry aspects. My Ceres Conjunct his Sun, exact. We have some lovely Venus aspects. However, a life theme of pain is a life theme of pain. That is what I mean by a single aspect ruining an entire relationship. After this, I met a person who had an amazing synastry with me, including his having my Jag position—Mars in Scorpio. In this case, my Chiron was conjunct his North Node. I would never want to be that level source of pain for someone, so I walked away from the relationship before it really started. To me, you never, ever, ever, ever mess with the charts. I would allow an orb of up to 5 degrees.2. Nessus Conjunct the North NodeI have not experienced this. However, I have seen Nessus play out in synastry enough times to know that it would bring a theme of abuse to the relationship. The Nessus person would bring the abuse to the North Node person. I would allow an orb of up to three degrees.3.Nessus Conjunct the SunI was the Sun. Nessus is a fierce beast when he touches a personal planet or angle. The dude may be good with everyone else but will tear the flesh of you *sigh*. The Nessus person was driven to abuse me like a person bites into a Big Mac in a McDonald’s drive through.4. Nemesis Conjunct the MoonI really hate Nemesis. It is a secret enemy. Betrayal hurts soooo much worse when it is by an unexpected source. The Nemesis person will break the heart of the Moon person.5. Nemesis Conjunct the North Node Once again, the North Node conjunction will show us a theme. I don’t know who wants secret betrayal?6. Pluto Square MarsI would not run from a relationship with this in it B-U-T, there is, likely, going to be some level of very heated interactions. This is an aspect for violence. I don’t think actual violence has to take place, but it will, likely, be close, and likely, cross the line, at times. I would not run from this one aspect because I am not SURE it has to be that bad. I am not convinced the way I am about the others, but I could be wrong and it may, always, bode violence. I have not seen it enough to make that statement, though.It is a very passionate aspect, too, so has that sexy fighting kind of thing *sigh*7. No Moon Aspects in SynastryIf I saw that, that would be the end of the relationship for me. The Moon is the heart. People bond heart to heart. If I had to die by firing squad to say one aspect that could mitigate this, I would say Moon/Mercury in good aspect—conjunction, trine or sextile. However, it would have to be very close(1-3 degrees)8. No Venus Aspects in SynastryVenus is taste and a “liking” for something/someone. If there are no Venus aspects, there will not be an understanding of tastes. You would be surprised how many things factor into taste——- attraction to the “mannerisms” of the other person, clothes, tastes in activities, music likes and humor, for a few.9. Bilk Conjunct the North NodeBilk will play out. How could you marry someone and think they are waiting to take advantage of you? *Shudder*10 Saturn in SynastrySaturn is a true double edged sword. Saturn keeps people together like glue. However, in close conjunctions, oppositions or squares(1-4 degrees), the Saturn can break the gentle spirit of the planet person( Moon or Venus, for two examples) due to a constant, carping criticism. Venus and the Moon are very sensitive planets in the natal chart. The Moon is the heart. Venus is one’s love nature.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Kannon McAfeeNo single aspect, especially those involving asteroids can 'ruin' an entire relationship. ------------------Soul Stars Astrology - by the declinations guyClickable Rising Signs> ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓LexusVirgoLove this ami. =)Chiron aspects are awful.i had my Chiron conjunct my first loves Venus his Chiron square my moon and Sun. It was awfulLexusVirgo quote:Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:No single aspect, especially those involving asteroids can 'ruin' an entire relationship. Venus square Saturn. Ami Anne quote:Originally posted by LexusVirgo:Love this ami. =)Chiron aspects are awful.i had my Chiron conjunct my first loves Venus his Chiron square my moon and Sun. It was awfulI hear you, my Friend. Thanks for sharing your experience!------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Ami AnneTell me the story of the Venus/Saturn, if you care to, L.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/SoulOfABirdSo him and I wont work out? My Nessus is closely conjunct his NNode in Sagitarrius(1 degrees orb)What about Chiron conjunct NNode 8 degree orb? Does it still count? & what about Venus square moon? I know two people with these aspects.------------------I appreciate the masterpiece that is you, because your existence alone is artSoulOfABirdSo him and I wont work out? My Nessus is closely conjunct his NNode in Sagitarrius(1 degrees orb)What about Chiron conjunct NNode 8 degree orb? Does it still count? & what about Venus square moon? I know two people with these aspects.------------------I appreciate the masterpiece that is you, because your existence alone is artanonymidarkness quote:Originally posted by LexusVirgo: Venus square Saturn. Depends, the person involved might be able to handle it.The square gives a kick up the butt to put a constant effort in the relationship and if there's one thing Saturn is damn good at, it's putting effort. If(and that's a big IF) the Saturn person can handle it well, and Venus person is comfortable with the energy of Saturn, the Saturn person will turn out to be a solid rock Mr./Miss Venus can rely on.Ami AnneWatch that Nessus/North Node relationship and, in time, I think you will see the Nessus/NN affect.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/outofideasHaha, I researched Bilk and it turns out I have it conjunct my own North Node in the first house in Pisces, within 4 degrees, also conjunct my Antivertex within 1 degree. It makes positive aspects to my Mercury Neptune conjunction and to Pluto as well. Am I destined to be the ultimate liar/trickster?vertiver quote:Originally posted by outofideas:Haha, I researched Bilk and it turns out I have it conjunct my own North Node in the first house in Pisces, within 4 degrees, also conjunct my Antivertex within 1 degree. Weird, I just noticed the same aspect in my chart as well - Bilk exactly conjunct NN in Pisces in 3rd H. Anyone have more info on asteroid Bilk - I'm unfamilar. Ami Anne4 degrees is too wide for an asteroid. The Anti vertex is what YOU bring to the world, so Bilk is not too great there, but the trines are good. Just watch any themes of trying to take advantage of people when it comes to money. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Voix_de_la_Mer quote:Originally posted by LexusVirgo: Venus square Saturn. I have this with my partner of 6 years - our relationship is excellent.outofideas quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:4 degrees is too wide for an asteroid. The Anti vertex is what YOU bring to the world, so Bilk is not too great there, but the trines are good. Just watch any themes of trying to take advantage of people when it comes to money. Thank you for your response Ami! llewsacm quote:Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: I have this with my partner of 6 years - our relationship is excellent.Agreed. One aspect is not fatalistic to a relationship. I appreciate the effort with this post but people, don't beat yourself up on an aspect listed here. Astrology is unique and personal. Ami points out aspects to watch for, but one will not make or break an entire relationship. If that were the case, many long term relationships should have fizzled years ago. If you know your synastry with someone, including midpoints and declinations, you can see the full picture. But all too often we see one awful energy connection and throw our hands up like it's the end all. Our transits help with our focus or lack of, which is yet another reason why to study what you've got going on and rely less on singular aspect interpretations. Put the story together by knowing yourself and understanding the energy. EmGem quote:Originally posted by llewsacm: Agreed. One aspect is not fatalistic to a relationship. I appreciate the effort with this post but people, don't beat yourself up on an aspect listed here. Astrology is unique and personal. Ami points out aspects to watch for, but one will not make or break an entire relationship. If that were the case, many long term relationships should have fizzled years ago. If you know your synastry with someone, including midpoints and declinations, you can see the full picture. But all too often we see one awful energy connection and throw our hands up like it's the end all. Our transits help with our focus or lack of, which is yet another reason why to study what you've got going on and rely less on singular aspect interpretations. Put the story together by knowing yourself and understanding the energy. RandallThanks, Ami!MahaKali quote:Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:No single aspect, especially those involving asteroids can 'ruin' an entire relationship. Randall LaceyLeighI was surprised hard aspects between Mercury/Mars didn’t make the list. It feels like it’s almost impossible to get along with someone you have this aspect with.anonymidarkness^ When it comes to synastry, it's different strokes for different folks. Some of us need a bit of arguments in relationships to keep it spicy, some need harmony...yada yada.The only one that ruins a relationship for me seems to be lack of any aspect between my mercury and theirs. Even an effing quincunx between them is better than having no aspects between mercuries in my experience.When there is no aspect between my mercury and theirs our convo goes like:Me: Hello, what is your name *flashes his pearly whites*Them: Oh dang! today is Sunday.Ami AnneMany bad synastry aspects don't show up until marriage, even long term relationships don't, often, manifest them, but marriage seems to.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/anonymidarkness^ I heard marriage tends to turn even good aspects into bad ones.Ami Anne quote:Originally posted by anonymidarkness:^ I heard marriage tends to turn even good aspects into bad ones.No lol------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
1.Chiron Conjunct the North Node
I was the North Node. He was the Chiron. I think the relationship is much more painful for the North Node person because the Chiron person BRINGS the pain. It is not as noticeable to him because he lives with it daily. I have to be blunt or why waste your time reading? In this case, there were so very, very lovely synastry aspects. My Ceres Conjunct his Sun, exact. We have some lovely Venus aspects. However, a life theme of pain is a life theme of pain. That is what I mean by a single aspect ruining an entire relationship. After this, I met a person who had an amazing synastry with me, including his having my Jag position—Mars in Scorpio. In this case, my Chiron was conjunct his North Node. I would never want to be that level source of pain for someone, so I walked away from the relationship before it really started. To me, you never, ever, ever, ever mess with the charts. I would allow an orb of up to 5 degrees.
2. Nessus Conjunct the North Node
I have not experienced this. However, I have seen Nessus play out in synastry enough times to know that it would bring a theme of abuse to the relationship. The Nessus person would bring the abuse to the North Node person. I would allow an orb of up to three degrees.
3.Nessus Conjunct the Sun
I was the Sun. Nessus is a fierce beast when he touches a personal planet or angle. The dude may be good with everyone else but will tear the flesh of you *sigh*. The Nessus person was driven to abuse me like a person bites into a Big Mac in a McDonald’s drive through.
4. Nemesis Conjunct the Moon
I really hate Nemesis. It is a secret enemy. Betrayal hurts soooo much worse when it is by an unexpected source. The Nemesis person will break the heart of the Moon person.
5. Nemesis Conjunct the North Node
Once again, the North Node conjunction will show us a theme. I don’t know who wants secret betrayal?
6. Pluto Square Mars
I would not run from a relationship with this in it B-U-T, there is, likely, going to be some level of very heated interactions. This is an aspect for violence. I don’t think actual violence has to take place, but it will, likely, be close, and likely, cross the line, at times. I would not run from this one aspect because I am not SURE it has to be that bad. I am not convinced the way I am about the others, but I could be wrong and it may, always, bode violence. I have not seen it enough to make that statement, though.It is a very passionate aspect, too, so has that sexy fighting kind of thing *sigh*
7. No Moon Aspects in Synastry
If I saw that, that would be the end of the relationship for me. The Moon is the heart. People bond heart to heart. If I had to die by firing squad to say one aspect that could mitigate this, I would say Moon/Mercury in good aspect—conjunction, trine or sextile. However, it would have to be very close(1-3 degrees)
8. No Venus Aspects in Synastry
Venus is taste and a “liking” for something/someone. If there are no Venus aspects, there will not be an understanding of tastes. You would be surprised how many things factor into taste——- attraction to the “mannerisms” of the other person, clothes, tastes in activities, music likes and humor, for a few.
9. Bilk Conjunct the North Node
Bilk will play out. How could you marry someone and think they are waiting to take advantage of you? *Shudder*
10 Saturn in Synastry
Saturn is a true double edged sword. Saturn keeps people together like glue. However, in close conjunctions, oppositions or squares(1-4 degrees), the Saturn can break the gentle spirit of the planet person( Moon or Venus, for two examples) due to a constant, carping criticism. Venus and the Moon are very sensitive planets in the natal chart. The Moon is the heart. Venus is one’s love nature.
------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE.
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
------------------Soul Stars Astrology - by the declinations guyClickable Rising Signs> ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓
Chiron aspects are awful.i had my Chiron conjunct my first loves Venus his Chiron square my moon and Sun. It was awful
quote:Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:No single aspect, especially those involving asteroids can 'ruin' an entire relationship.
Venus square Saturn.
quote:Originally posted by LexusVirgo:Love this ami. =)Chiron aspects are awful.i had my Chiron conjunct my first loves Venus his Chiron square my moon and Sun. It was awful
I hear you, my Friend. Thanks for sharing your experience!
What about Chiron conjunct NNode 8 degree orb? Does it still count? & what about Venus square moon? I know two people with these aspects.
------------------I appreciate the masterpiece that is you, because your existence alone is art
quote:Originally posted by LexusVirgo: Venus square Saturn.
Depends, the person involved might be able to handle it.
The square gives a kick up the butt to put a constant effort in the relationship and if there's one thing Saturn is damn good at, it's putting effort. If(and that's a big IF) the Saturn person can handle it well, and Venus person is comfortable with the energy of Saturn, the Saturn person will turn out to be a solid rock Mr./Miss Venus can rely on.
quote:Originally posted by outofideas:Haha, I researched Bilk and it turns out I have it conjunct my own North Node in the first house in Pisces, within 4 degrees, also conjunct my Antivertex within 1 degree.
Weird, I just noticed the same aspect in my chart as well - Bilk exactly conjunct NN in Pisces in 3rd H. Anyone have more info on asteroid Bilk - I'm unfamilar.
I have this with my partner of 6 years - our relationship is excellent.
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:4 degrees is too wide for an asteroid. The Anti vertex is what YOU bring to the world, so Bilk is not too great there, but the trines are good. Just watch any themes of trying to take advantage of people when it comes to money.
Thank you for your response Ami!
quote:Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: I have this with my partner of 6 years - our relationship is excellent.
Agreed. One aspect is not fatalistic to a relationship. I appreciate the effort with this post but people, don't beat yourself up on an aspect listed here. Astrology is unique and personal. Ami points out aspects to watch for, but one will not make or break an entire relationship. If that were the case, many long term relationships should have fizzled years ago.
If you know your synastry with someone, including midpoints and declinations, you can see the full picture. But all too often we see one awful energy connection and throw our hands up like it's the end all. Our transits help with our focus or lack of, which is yet another reason why to study what you've got going on and rely less on singular aspect interpretations. Put the story together by knowing yourself and understanding the energy.
quote:Originally posted by llewsacm: Agreed. One aspect is not fatalistic to a relationship. I appreciate the effort with this post but people, don't beat yourself up on an aspect listed here. Astrology is unique and personal. Ami points out aspects to watch for, but one will not make or break an entire relationship. If that were the case, many long term relationships should have fizzled years ago. If you know your synastry with someone, including midpoints and declinations, you can see the full picture. But all too often we see one awful energy connection and throw our hands up like it's the end all. Our transits help with our focus or lack of, which is yet another reason why to study what you've got going on and rely less on singular aspect interpretations. Put the story together by knowing yourself and understanding the energy.
The only one that ruins a relationship for me seems to be lack of any aspect between my mercury and theirs. Even an effing quincunx between them is better than having no aspects between mercuries in my experience.
When there is no aspect between my mercury and theirs our convo goes like:
Me: Hello, what is your name *flashes his pearly whites*Them: Oh dang! today is Sunday.
quote:Originally posted by anonymidarkness:^ I heard marriage tends to turn even good aspects into bad ones.
No lol
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