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T O P I C R E V I E WhippichickWhile I am quite holistic and support finding one's way.....I do support Dr Adkins.For those who are hyper sensitive to carbs, as am I.As a nurse I, of course, know and support ultimate health..but I have seen throughout the years the traditional "pyramid" just doesnt work for some folks.Me one.I adore carbs, need em, but since been sick alot, and gained alot of weight as to my demise, I have had to rethink.Dr Adkins was not so incorrect.Folks want to indulge in bacon, eggs, meat, without abandon..Bad..So my new approach to health and healing and TASTING GOOD is...Low carbs for me.Just sauteed a bit of turkey bacon, onions, garlic, green curry, then tossed in an egg white, then a hint of monzerella cheese...at the end tossed in some fresh spinache,yumm..will serve myself this "concoction" upon a bed of butter lettuce, and be healthyI hope!lolblessinsterri~DeeIt has worked for me in the past. now i have to try again. i have prediabetesRandallHe receives a lot of criticisms, but what works works!------------------"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca ClarkRandallDidn't Atkins say meats were okay?------------------"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca ClarkDeeYes Atkins says meat and fats are ok. but carbs are bad.Atkins Diet: All The Meat, You Can Eat http://www.psychtreatment.com/atkins_diet.htm carbs diabetics and insulin http://www.youmeworks.com/whylowcarb.html hippichickGood luck Dee!!!If one really studies his program, the "induction" period is the one that really sets things off.Then, one eases back into good carbs, but very, very careflly.Like Sugarbusters for diabetics kind of carbs.I have found for me, I just cant tolerate that many carbs, good or bad, but with my altered brain chemistry, I need carbs at times to keep me hormonally balanced.But to loose the weight I need to for my heart and lungs and general health, hardcore Adkins is the way to go for me for a few weeks.Meat is fine, but in allowed quantities, with leafy greens, lots of leafy greens (many veggies contain hidded carbs.)The meat in the grocers general section just makes me ill, especially chicken. So, I spend the bucks to glance the organic meat section, veal, angus, farm raised, and I love lamb.There is a small meat market in a nearby small town, that I LOVE to go to, absolutely fresh farm raised beef, but havnt been there for a while.The thing folks to wrong with Adkins is think you can live on fatty steaks, bacon, eggs, etc. NOT! You will die then!!!It IS a good program and of course it is critisized cause it works and somebody else didnt think about it! The other night, I smoked on the grille, with applewood, skewered yellow squash, zuchinni, red onions, mushrooms, red and green bell peppers, then stufffed big portabellas with mozarella cheese (all the above and the following good for my blood type too), and then skewered some marinated chunks of veal and angus.well!!!yum!!!Lost 3 lbs in 3 days.Working out too, lots of water, passion and green teas.Onward!!!Dee SunChildDidn't he die at 258lbs?I always think you get the results from the advice people give who are living the results that you want.I do not think ALL carbs are to blame, I personally think it's refined wheat and a lot of other wheat products or refined grain & obviously, fat.High carb low fat & I've lost 8kg in 6 weeks just sitting around and carbing up constantly. (fruits, veg & rice) I'm thinking about going to the gym just for the excess energy I now have.Just thought I'd share, I'm so passionate & excited about my findings right now. Who would have thought, you can eat all the fruits and veggies you want, thousands of calories and not get porky. wow.........*dohhippichickHey Sunchild!I have found that some folks are more sensitive to carbs than others.Me being one.At 50 years old, I have to be really, really careful, but, like I said, people think they can do Adkins without abandon, but one just cant.My goodness, IF I lived on a high carb diet, not matter healthy, I would balloon up and xplode! LOL!To each is own, and I am just saying, low carbs for ALOT, especially carb sensitive folks and diabetics is key.IF a diabetic, in my hospital were served a bunch of fruit, I would trash it....fructose turned into sugar, just doesnt work with diabetics.Glad you can do it!Never been a fruit fan, but I so would like a bananna!!!terri~SunChildHave you heard of Dr Neale Barnard Hippi?DeeHow Dr Atkins diedOn April 8, 2003, at age 72, Dr. Atkins slipped on the ice while walking to work, hitting his head and causing bleeding around his brain. He lost consciousness on the way to the hospital, where he spent two weeks in intensive care. His body deteriorated rapidly and he suffered massive organ failure. During this time, his body apparently retained an enormous amount of fluid, and his weight at death was recorded at 258 pounds. His death certificate states that the cause of death was "blunt impact injury of head with epidural hematoma". http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/atkinsdiet/a/dratkinsdeath.htm hippichick quote:Originally posted by SunChild:Have you heard of Dr Neale Barnard Hippi?No I havnt?hippichick quote:Originally posted by Dee:How Dr Atkins diedOn April 8, 2003, at age 72, Dr. Atkins slipped on the ice while walking to work, hitting his head and causing bleeding around his brain. He lost consciousness on the way to the hospital, where he spent two weeks in intensive care. His body deteriorated rapidly and he suffered massive organ failure. During this time, his body apparently retained an enormous amount of fluid, and his weight at death was recorded at 258 pounds. His death certificate states that the cause of death was "blunt impact injury of head with epidural hematoma". http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/atkinsdiet/a/dratkinsdeath.htm One reason I dont buy into media..they tell us what they want us to know I still think he was a brilliant man, had the absolutely correct idea and it works for alot of folks.Thanks DeehippichickBTW, being an ICU nurse, when the body shuts down, doesnt process we do balloon up.Families ask ALWAYS, "why is he/she so bloated?"I explain the physiologic ramifications, but I also mention that IF you or I were confined to a bed and couldnt move, we would bloat too...SunChildBeen through numerous online debates in the health field about Dr Atkins so, yes know the cause of his death well, know he was bloated.. though he was overweight, that's all my point was.Overweight. Period.He was fat and bloated.SunChild^^^ That post could come across soo wrong...He looks like such a sweet loving guy. Nothing against him personally. But I've only seen small weight loss in people on this diet, you know, in the first week or two, and they are still overweight to this day. :-/ hippichickHi Sun!I really think also, people's genetic makeup has alot to do with weight.I used to work with a girl, in ther late 30's that could eat hamburgers all day and she was as skinny as a rail.I eat leafy greens, lean meats, when I do, fish, NO sweets, cut way back on carbs, people at work used to make fun of my too healthy of eating and I still have an issue with weight. My family's heritage is pure Polish on my dad's side and my mother hearty German/English ancestory.There are soooo many factors, culture, ethnicity, genitics, etc.For me, like I have said, way low carbs does the trick Fixing to make me one of my breakfast specials....onions, bell peppers, garlic, maybe a tiny bit of turkey bacon, cheddar cheese, egg whites and fresh spinache...yum!DeeDuke University Study Shows Low-Carb Diet More Effective Than Low-Fat DietPeople who followed a low-carbohydrate, high-protein diet lost more weight than people on a low-fat, low-cholesterol, low-calorie diet during a six-month comparison study at Duke University Medical Center. However, the researchers caution that people with medical conditions such as diabetes and high blood pressure should not start the diet without close medical supervision."This diet can be quite powerful," said lead researcher Will Yancy, M.D., an assistant professor of medicine at Duke University Medical Center and a research associate at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Durham, N.C. "We found that the low-carb diet was more effective for weight loss," Yancy added. "The weight loss surprised me, to be honest with you. We also found cholesterol levels seemed to improve more on a low-carb diet compared to a low-fat diet." The study is the first randomized, controlled trial of an Atkins-style diet approach, which includes vitamin and nutritional supplements. Along with losing an average of 26 pounds, dieters assigned to the low-carbohydrate plan lost more body fat, and lowered their triglyceride levels and raised their HDL, or good cholesterol, more than the low-fat dieters. The low-fat dieters lost an average of 14 pounds. Though the low-fat diet group lowered their total cholesterol more than the low-carb dieters, the latter group nearly halved their triglycerides and their HDL jumped five points. The low-carbohydrate group reported more adverse physical effects, such as constipation and headaches, but fewer people dropped out of the low-carbohydrate diet than the low-fat diet. The results appear in the May 18, 2004, issue of the Annals of Internal Medicine. The research was funded by an unrestricted grant from the Robert C. Atkins Foundation. The study authors have no financial interest in Atkins Nutritionals, Inc. The study builds on earlier results by the Duke University Medical Center researchers showing a low-carbohydrate diet can lead to weight loss -- the first study of the low carbohydrate diet since 1980. Yancy and co-investigator Eric Westman, M.D., are currently testing whether a low-carbohydrate diet can help diabetics control their blood sugar levels. Despite the considerable weight loss experienced by the low-carbohydrate dieters, Yancy does not recommend an Atkins-style plan for patients attempting to lose weight for the first time. "Over six months the diet appears relatively safe, but we need to study the safety for longer durations," Yancy said. He also cautioned that the diet could present certain health risks, such as elevations in LDL cholesterol levels, bone loss, or kidney stones. This and other recent studies of the low-carbohydrate diet have not demonstrated that these health risks occur over short durations, but they might occur in people on the diet for long-term. It is especially important that people on diuretic or diabetes medications be monitored by a doctor because the low-carbohydrate diet affects hydration and blood sugar levels, Yancy said. The 120 study participants were randomly assigned to either the low-carbohydrate, high-protein diet or the low-fat, low-cholesterol, low-calorie diet. All were between 18 and 65 years old and in generally good health, with a body mass index (BMI) between 30 and 60, indicating obesity, and a total cholesterol level of more than 200 mg/dL. None had tried dieting or weight loss pills in the previous six months. The low-carbohydrate group was permitted daily unlimited amounts of animal foods (meat, fowl, fish and shellfish); unlimited eggs; 4 oz. of hard cheese; two cups of salad vegetables such as lettuce, spinach or celery; and one cup of low-carbohydrate vegetables such as broccoli, cauliflower or squash. They also received daily nutritional supplements recommended by Atkins -- a multivitamin, essential oils, a diet formulation and chromium picolinate. There were no restrictions on total calories, but carbohydrates were kept below 20 grams per day at the start of the diet. The low-fat, low-cholesterol, low-calorie group followed a diet consisting of less than 30 percent of daily caloric intake from fat; less than 10 percent of calories from saturated fat; and less than 300 milligrams of cholesterol daily. They were also advised to cut back on calories. The recommended daily calorie level was 500 to 1,000 calories less than the participant's maintenance diet -- the calories needed to maintain current weight. Study participants were encouraged to exercise 30 minutes at least three times per week, but no formal exercise program was provided. Both sets of dieters had group meetings at an outpatient research clinic regularly for six months. Others members of the Duke research team were Maren Olsen, Ph.D.; John Guyton, M.D.; Ronna Bakst, R.D.; and Eric Westman, M.D., who was co-principal investigator for the study. The researchers maintained exclusive control of all data and analyses. Source: Duke University-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://thyroid.about.com/b/2004/05/17/duke-university-study-shows-low-carb-diet-more-effective-than-low-fat-diet.htm DeeHunter/Farmer body type http://healthybodydaily.com/dr-oz-diets/hunterfarmer-diet-solution hippichickGood info, Dee!!!Thanks!!!Again I will say that people hear "Adkins" and think horrible things.It is not a ticket to go and eat all the fatty things you can get your hands on!I love the website!!! Promotes good, healthy eating!terri~SunChildI still completely disagree. Though I do agree with most of the carbs should be cut. Bread, pasta especially. I think that's where the results come in. the only good carb IMO is fruit! I've seen it time and time again.It's also funny how pro meat diets include recommended supplements...Whole fruit and veg diets do not. Because supplements are not needed when biologically correct nutrition is being consumed. I do not believe meat is one of them. Though I know meat is useful for survival and for certain shamanic elements. But not just a general consumable. If we just go back to basics, that's where i'm coming from... I like it there.I do understand the other side though.(edited)SunChildI found an article I was reading that reinforces my whole point here, I was happy when I read this because I've strongly felt that all along, people can easily miss the point: quote:Dr. Atkins and I agreed that the American diet is too high in refined carbohydrates such as sugar, white flour and concentrated sweeteners) which promote a variety of chronic diseases. That's why people often lose weight on an Atkins diet when they restrict their intake of refined carbohydrates quote:However, the answer is not to replace refined carbohydrates with animal protein such as beef, pork rinds, bacon and sausage, which Dr. Atkins claimed were good for your heart. I'd like to be able to say that they're good for your heart, but they are not. It's much more healthful to replace refined carbohydrates ("bad carbs") with healthy carbs insteadsource: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-dean-ornish/an-atkins-diet-increases-_b_707005.html The Atkins diet is the one that really peeves me the most. 2 Major studies I will post Low-Carbohydrate Diets and All-Cause and Cause-Specific MortalityTwo Cohort Studies http://www.annals.org/content/153/5/289.abstract You can just about find a study to prove anything tho.I will always argue against the atkins diet... can't help it.SunChildI forgot to earlier, I put the Neal Barnard info in HAH http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/003006.html Introducing Dr. Neal Barnard’s Program for Reversing DiabetesWorth your opinions too.
I do support Dr Adkins.
For those who are hyper sensitive to carbs, as am I.
As a nurse I, of course, know and support ultimate health..but I have seen throughout the years the traditional "pyramid" just doesnt work for some folks.
Me one.
I adore carbs, need em, but since been sick alot, and gained alot of weight as to my demise, I have had to rethink.
Dr Adkins was not so incorrect.
Folks want to indulge in bacon, eggs, meat, without abandon..
Bad..
So my new approach to health and healing and TASTING GOOD is...
Low carbs for me.
Just sauteed a bit of turkey bacon, onions, garlic, green curry, then tossed in an egg white, then a hint of monzerella cheese...at the end tossed in some fresh spinache,
yumm..
will serve myself this "concoction" upon a bed of butter lettuce, and be healthy
I hope!
lol
blessins
terri~
------------------"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark
Atkins Diet: All The Meat, You Can Eat http://www.psychtreatment.com/atkins_diet.htm
carbs diabetics and insulin
http://www.youmeworks.com/whylowcarb.html
If one really studies his program, the "induction" period is the one that really sets things off.
Then, one eases back into good carbs, but very, very careflly.
Like Sugarbusters for diabetics kind of carbs.
I have found for me, I just cant tolerate that many carbs, good or bad, but with my altered brain chemistry, I need carbs at times to keep me hormonally balanced.
But to loose the weight I need to for my heart and lungs and general health, hardcore Adkins is the way to go for me for a few weeks.
Meat is fine, but in allowed quantities, with leafy greens, lots of leafy greens (many veggies contain hidded carbs.)
The meat in the grocers general section just makes me ill, especially chicken. So, I spend the bucks to glance the organic meat section, veal, angus, farm raised, and I love lamb.
There is a small meat market in a nearby small town, that I LOVE to go to, absolutely fresh farm raised beef, but havnt been there for a while.
The thing folks to wrong with Adkins is think you can live on fatty steaks, bacon, eggs, etc. NOT! You will die then!!!
It IS a good program and of course it is critisized cause it works and somebody else didnt think about it!
The other night, I smoked on the grille, with applewood, skewered yellow squash, zuchinni, red onions, mushrooms, red and green bell peppers, then stufffed big portabellas with mozarella cheese (all the above and the following good for my blood type too), and then skewered some marinated chunks of veal and angus.
well!!!
yum!!!
Lost 3 lbs in 3 days.
Working out too, lots of water, passion and green teas.
Onward!!!
I always think you get the results from the advice people give who are living the results that you want.
I do not think ALL carbs are to blame, I personally think it's refined wheat and a lot of other wheat products or refined grain & obviously, fat.
High carb low fat & I've lost 8kg in 6 weeks just sitting around and carbing up constantly. (fruits, veg & rice) I'm thinking about going to the gym just for the excess energy I now have.
Just thought I'd share, I'm so passionate & excited about my findings right now.
Who would have thought, you can eat all the fruits and veggies you want, thousands of calories and not get porky. wow.........*doh
I have found that some folks are more sensitive to carbs than others.
Me being one.
At 50 years old, I have to be really, really careful, but, like I said, people think they can do Adkins without abandon, but one just cant.
My goodness, IF I lived on a high carb diet, not matter healthy, I would balloon up and xplode! LOL!
To each is own, and I am just saying, low carbs for ALOT, especially carb sensitive folks and diabetics is key.
IF a diabetic, in my hospital were served a bunch of fruit, I would trash it....fructose turned into sugar, just doesnt work with diabetics.
Glad you can do it!
Never been a fruit fan, but I so would like a bananna!!!
On April 8, 2003, at age 72, Dr. Atkins slipped on the ice while walking to work, hitting his head and causing bleeding around his brain. He lost consciousness on the way to the hospital, where he spent two weeks in intensive care. His body deteriorated rapidly and he suffered massive organ failure. During this time, his body apparently retained an enormous amount of fluid, and his weight at death was recorded at 258 pounds. His death certificate states that the cause of death was "blunt impact injury of head with epidural hematoma". http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/atkinsdiet/a/dratkinsdeath.htm
quote:Originally posted by SunChild:Have you heard of Dr Neale Barnard Hippi?
No I havnt?
quote:Originally posted by Dee:How Dr Atkins diedOn April 8, 2003, at age 72, Dr. Atkins slipped on the ice while walking to work, hitting his head and causing bleeding around his brain. He lost consciousness on the way to the hospital, where he spent two weeks in intensive care. His body deteriorated rapidly and he suffered massive organ failure. During this time, his body apparently retained an enormous amount of fluid, and his weight at death was recorded at 258 pounds. His death certificate states that the cause of death was "blunt impact injury of head with epidural hematoma". http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/atkinsdiet/a/dratkinsdeath.htm
One reason I dont buy into media..they tell us what they want us to know
I still think he was a brilliant man, had the absolutely correct idea and it works for alot of folks.
Thanks Dee
Families ask ALWAYS, "why is he/she so bloated?"
I explain the physiologic ramifications, but I also mention that IF you or I were confined to a bed and couldnt move, we would bloat too...
Overweight. Period.He was fat and bloated.
He looks like such a sweet loving guy. Nothing against him personally. But I've only seen small weight loss in people on this diet, you know, in the first week or two, and they are still overweight to this day. :-/
I really think also, people's genetic makeup has alot to do with weight.
I used to work with a girl, in ther late 30's that could eat hamburgers all day and she was as skinny as a rail.
I eat leafy greens, lean meats, when I do, fish, NO sweets, cut way back on carbs, people at work used to make fun of my too healthy of eating and I still have an issue with weight. My family's heritage is pure Polish on my dad's side and my mother hearty German/English ancestory.
There are soooo many factors, culture, ethnicity, genitics, etc.
For me, like I have said, way low carbs does the trick
Fixing to make me one of my breakfast specials....onions, bell peppers, garlic, maybe a tiny bit of turkey bacon, cheddar cheese, egg whites and fresh spinache...
yum!
People who followed a low-carbohydrate, high-protein diet lost more weight than people on a low-fat, low-cholesterol, low-calorie diet during a six-month comparison study at Duke University Medical Center. However, the researchers caution that people with medical conditions such as diabetes and high blood pressure should not start the diet without close medical supervision.
"This diet can be quite powerful," said lead researcher Will Yancy, M.D., an assistant professor of medicine at Duke University Medical Center and a research associate at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Durham, N.C. "We found that the low-carb diet was more effective for weight loss," Yancy added. "The weight loss surprised me, to be honest with you. We also found cholesterol levels seemed to improve more on a low-carb diet compared to a low-fat diet."
The study is the first randomized, controlled trial of an Atkins-style diet approach, which includes vitamin and nutritional supplements. Along with losing an average of 26 pounds, dieters assigned to the low-carbohydrate plan lost more body fat, and lowered their triglyceride levels and raised their HDL, or good cholesterol, more than the low-fat dieters. The low-fat dieters lost an average of 14 pounds. Though the low-fat diet group lowered their total cholesterol more than the low-carb dieters, the latter group nearly halved their triglycerides and their HDL jumped five points. The low-carbohydrate group reported more adverse physical effects, such as constipation and headaches, but fewer people dropped out of the low-carbohydrate diet than the low-fat diet.
The results appear in the May 18, 2004, issue of the Annals of Internal Medicine. The research was funded by an unrestricted grant from the Robert C. Atkins Foundation. The study authors have no financial interest in Atkins Nutritionals, Inc.
The study builds on earlier results by the Duke University Medical Center researchers showing a low-carbohydrate diet can lead to weight loss -- the first study of the low carbohydrate diet since 1980. Yancy and co-investigator Eric Westman, M.D., are currently testing whether a low-carbohydrate diet can help diabetics control their blood sugar levels.
Despite the considerable weight loss experienced by the low-carbohydrate dieters, Yancy does not recommend an Atkins-style plan for patients attempting to lose weight for the first time.
"Over six months the diet appears relatively safe, but we need to study the safety for longer durations," Yancy said. He also cautioned that the diet could present certain health risks, such as elevations in LDL cholesterol levels, bone loss, or kidney stones. This and other recent studies of the low-carbohydrate diet have not demonstrated that these health risks occur over short durations, but they might occur in people on the diet for long-term. It is especially important that people on diuretic or diabetes medications be monitored by a doctor because the low-carbohydrate diet affects hydration and blood sugar levels, Yancy said.
The 120 study participants were randomly assigned to either the low-carbohydrate, high-protein diet or the low-fat, low-cholesterol, low-calorie diet. All were between 18 and 65 years old and in generally good health, with a body mass index (BMI) between 30 and 60, indicating obesity, and a total cholesterol level of more than 200 mg/dL. None had tried dieting or weight loss pills in the previous six months.
The low-carbohydrate group was permitted daily unlimited amounts of animal foods (meat, fowl, fish and shellfish); unlimited eggs; 4 oz. of hard cheese; two cups of salad vegetables such as lettuce, spinach or celery; and one cup of low-carbohydrate vegetables such as broccoli, cauliflower or squash. They also received daily nutritional supplements recommended by Atkins -- a multivitamin, essential oils, a diet formulation and chromium picolinate. There were no restrictions on total calories, but carbohydrates were kept below 20 grams per day at the start of the diet.
The low-fat, low-cholesterol, low-calorie group followed a diet consisting of less than 30 percent of daily caloric intake from fat; less than 10 percent of calories from saturated fat; and less than 300 milligrams of cholesterol daily. They were also advised to cut back on calories. The recommended daily calorie level was 500 to 1,000 calories less than the participant's maintenance diet -- the calories needed to maintain current weight.
Study participants were encouraged to exercise 30 minutes at least three times per week, but no formal exercise program was provided. Both sets of dieters had group meetings at an outpatient research clinic regularly for six months.
Others members of the Duke research team were Maren Olsen, Ph.D.; John Guyton, M.D.; Ronna Bakst, R.D.; and Eric Westman, M.D., who was co-principal investigator for the study. The researchers maintained exclusive control of all data and analyses.
Source: Duke University
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://thyroid.about.com/b/2004/05/17/duke-university-study-shows-low-carb-diet-more-effective-than-low-fat-diet.htm
Thanks!!!
Again I will say that people hear "Adkins" and think horrible things.
It is not a ticket to go and eat all the fatty things you can get your hands on!
I love the website!!! Promotes good, healthy eating!
It's also funny how pro meat diets include recommended supplements...Whole fruit and veg diets do not.
Because supplements are not needed when biologically correct nutrition is being consumed. I do not believe meat is one of them. Though I know meat is useful for survival and for certain shamanic elements. But not just a general consumable.
If we just go back to basics, that's where i'm coming from... I like it there.
I do understand the other side though.
(edited)
quote:Dr. Atkins and I agreed that the American diet is too high in refined carbohydrates such as sugar, white flour and concentrated sweeteners) which promote a variety of chronic diseases. That's why people often lose weight on an Atkins diet when they restrict their intake of refined carbohydrates
quote:However, the answer is not to replace refined carbohydrates with animal protein such as beef, pork rinds, bacon and sausage, which Dr. Atkins claimed were good for your heart. I'd like to be able to say that they're good for your heart, but they are not. It's much more healthful to replace refined carbohydrates ("bad carbs") with healthy carbs instead
source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-dean-ornish/an-atkins-diet-increases-_b_707005.html
The Atkins diet is the one that really peeves me the most.
2 Major studies I will post
Low-Carbohydrate Diets and All-Cause and Cause-Specific MortalityTwo Cohort Studies http://www.annals.org/content/153/5/289.abstract
You can just about find a study to prove anything tho.
I will always argue against the atkins diet... can't help it.
Introducing Dr. Neal Barnard’s Program for Reversing Diabetes
Worth your opinions too.
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