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T O P I C R E V I E WgeeaWhat is freedom to you?geeato me freedom is no regretsDoux RêveFreedom is unattainable on the physical plane. That's what I think.To me, freedom is being free of any need, emotion, or concern.Being on a different plane of existence.Sorry if that sounded too metaphysical.geeanot at all, i like reading you, doux ^^Doux RêveAww, thank you, geea.That's unexpected, haha.geeaofc, theres a few members i still like reading juniperb quote:Originally posted by Doux Rêve:Freedom is unattainable on the physical plane. That's what I think.To me, freedom is being free of any need, emotion, or concern.Being on a different plane of existence.Sorry if that sounded too metaphysical.Being in a state of "no expectation" is freedom of these on the physical plane?------------------Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. RumiRandallWhat is "ofc"?juniperbI`m terrible at the modern shorthand as well but I interpreted it as "Of course".------------------Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. RumiEllynlvxOf Course?FaithFreedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.juniperb"Nothing ain't worth nothing but it's free" ------------------Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. RumiCatMotefreedom...man theres a lot of different ways i thought about freedom over my short 21 year lifespan. what ive come up with (probably my 21 year old head speaking) is that freedom is the ability to make decisions without looking back. without your past choices haunting you. to be able to accept everything that you are, good and bad, and be able to live with it. and love yourself for it. ------------------Sun Aries Moon PiscesMars Pisces Venus PiscesMercury Aries Jupiter in VirgoSaturn in Aquarius Pluto in ScorpioNeptune and Uranus in CapricornAscendant LibraEllynlvxKris Kristofferson can really pen a lyric.You all know Bobby McGee.Ever heard this one?"Jesus Was a Capricorn" was written by Kristofferson, KrisJesus was a CapricornHe ate organic foodHe believed in love and peaceAnd never wore no shoesLong hair, beard and sandalsAnd a funky bunch of friendsReckon may just nail Him upIf He come down again'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down onProve they can be better than at any time they pleaseSomeone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown onYou can't find nobody else, then help yourself to meGet back, JohnEggheads cursin', rednecks cussin'Hippies for their hairOthers laugh at straights who laugh atFreaks who laugh at squareSome folks hate the WhitesWho hate the Blacks who hate the KlanMost of us hate anything thatWe don't understand'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down onProve they can be better than at any time they pleaseSomeone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown onBut you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to meHelp yourself brotherHelp yourself [Incomprehensible]Help yourself brotherSongwritersKristofferson, KrisjuniperbKris wrote it but Janis put the blues to it! Yep, an old KK fan here ------------------Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. RumiEllynlvxHe wrote this one to her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKttwK7Ri7E Fritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, Kris.Her close friends have gatheredLord, ain't it a shame?Grieving togetherSharing the blameBut when she was dyingLord, we let her downThere's no use cryin'It can't help her nowThe party's all overDrink up and go homeIt's too late to love herAnd leave her aloneJust say she was someoneLord, so far from homeWhose life was so lonesomeShe died all aloneWho dreamed pretty dreamsThat never came trueLord, why was she bornSo black and blue?Oh, why was she bornSo black and blue?SongwritersFritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, KrisRead more: Kris Kristofferson - Epitaph (Black and Blue)EllynlvxBut since we are talking Freedom here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaKybvCH3pA Thought of this song this morning. First I saw an Eagle (second day in a row) at the top of a bony old skeleton of a tree. Then I saw the Warm Golden Glow bathe the contours of Majestic Mount Shasta framed in the distance by a bowl shaped rounded greenery. It brought back to me the words of this song; in the context of this Thread.Faith quote:Originally posted by Ellynlvx:He wrote this one to her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKttwK7Ri7E Such beautiful lyrics, but then I tried listening to the song and his voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Faith quote:Originally posted by Ellynlvx:But since we are talking Freedom here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaKybvCH3pA ^ Oh but this is nice Since we're talking music, lemme tell you that every time I broke up with my college boyfriend of four years (yes I'm a Pisces moon and stayed in the relationship so I wouldn't hurt his feelings, you got it!) I would be singing this song:I'm FREE I'm freeeeeAnd I'm happppppy I am free from your hatredI've parted from the partThat I participatedSo I'm freeIt was easy EllynlvxWell, we have both been on the same page with this, because from the start I have been thinking that freedom for me is not being "in love."So, I guess this will be the final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIGCk6JcVLk EllynlvxIn response to the two opinions above regarding "Epitaph (Black & Blue)" and "Loving Her was Easier (Than Anything I'll Ever do Again) I was actually trying to bring all my thoughts together on this Thread; in a sort of juxtaposition. No Regrets.Sometimes we think that, when first we break the ties.Listen to the grate of that voice again, and think what it would be to lose forever one you love.Listen to the other: Love in Full Flight. (Which he may never, ever do again once she was gone. Death being a bit more final than; oh, say divorce.)Which is the True Freedom?This is why I never answered this Thread, because I never really decided in my mind...(Because Love can be; well, a "Ball & Chain.")But, People, we must think twice...Ellynlvx quote:Originally posted by Ellynlvx:He wrote this one to her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKttwK7Ri7E Fritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, Kris.Her close friends have gatheredLord, ain't it a shame?Grieving togetherSharing the blameBut when she was dyingLord, we let her downThere's no use cryin'It can't help her nowThe party's all overDrink up and go homeIt's too late to love herAnd leave her aloneJust say she was someoneLord, so far from homeWhose life was so lonesomeShe died all aloneWho dreamed pretty dreamsThat never came trueLord, why was she bornSo black and blue?Oh, why was she bornSo black and blue?SongwritersFritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, KrisRead more: Kris Kristofferson - Epitaph (Black and Blue)"She died all alone"Oh, and regarding "Me & Bobby McGee:""Janis Joplin also covered the song for inclusion on her Pearl album only a few days before her death in October 1970. Kristofferson had sung the song for Joplin, and singer Bob Neuwirth taught it to her. Kristofferson, however, did not know she had covered it until after her death (the first time he heard it was the day after she died).[2] Joplin's version topped the charts to become her only number one single and in 2004, her version of this song was ranked No. 148 on Rolling Stone's list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time."Ellynlvxhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0t0EW6z8a0 http://www.examiner.com/article/janis-joplin-her-final-hours These things grate on us all, guess that's how Pearls are formed...
To me, freedom is being free of any need, emotion, or concern.
Being on a different plane of existence.
Sorry if that sounded too metaphysical.
quote:Originally posted by Doux Rêve:Freedom is unattainable on the physical plane. That's what I think.To me, freedom is being free of any need, emotion, or concern.Being on a different plane of existence.Sorry if that sounded too metaphysical.
Being in a state of "no expectation" is freedom of these on the physical plane?
------------------Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi
------------------Sun Aries Moon PiscesMars Pisces Venus PiscesMercury Aries Jupiter in VirgoSaturn in Aquarius Pluto in ScorpioNeptune and Uranus in CapricornAscendant Libra
You all know Bobby McGee.
Ever heard this one?
"Jesus Was a Capricorn" was written by Kristofferson, Kris
Jesus was a CapricornHe ate organic foodHe believed in love and peaceAnd never wore no shoes
Long hair, beard and sandalsAnd a funky bunch of friendsReckon may just nail Him upIf He come down again
'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down onProve they can be better than at any time they pleaseSomeone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown onYou can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me
Get back, John
Eggheads cursin', rednecks cussin'Hippies for their hairOthers laugh at straights who laugh atFreaks who laugh at square
Some folks hate the WhitesWho hate the Blacks who hate the KlanMost of us hate anything thatWe don't understand
'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down onProve they can be better than at any time they pleaseSomeone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown onBut you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me
Help yourself brotherHelp yourself [Incomprehensible]Help yourself brother
SongwritersKristofferson, Kris
Yep, an old KK fan here
Fritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, Kris.
Her close friends have gatheredLord, ain't it a shame?Grieving togetherSharing the blame
But when she was dyingLord, we let her downThere's no use cryin'It can't help her now
The party's all overDrink up and go homeIt's too late to love herAnd leave her alone
Just say she was someoneLord, so far from homeWhose life was so lonesomeShe died all alone
Who dreamed pretty dreamsThat never came trueLord, why was she bornSo black and blue?Oh, why was she bornSo black and blue?
SongwritersFritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, Kris
Read more: Kris Kristofferson - Epitaph (Black and Blue)
Thought of this song this morning.
First I saw an Eagle (second day in a row) at the top of a bony old skeleton of a tree. Then I saw the Warm Golden Glow bathe the contours of Majestic Mount Shasta framed in the distance by a bowl shaped rounded greenery. It brought back to me the words of this song; in the context of this Thread.
quote:Originally posted by Ellynlvx:He wrote this one to her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKttwK7Ri7E
Such beautiful lyrics, but then I tried listening to the song and his voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
quote:Originally posted by Ellynlvx:But since we are talking Freedom here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaKybvCH3pA
^ Oh but this is nice
Since we're talking music, lemme tell you that every time I broke up with my college boyfriend of four years (yes I'm a Pisces moon and stayed in the relationship so I wouldn't hurt his feelings, you got it!) I would be singing this song:
I'm FREE
I'm freeeeeAnd I'm happppppy I am free from your hatredI've parted from the partThat I participatedSo I'm freeIt was easy
So, I guess this will be the final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIGCk6JcVLk
No Regrets.
Sometimes we think that, when first we break the ties.
Listen to the grate of that voice again, and think what it would be to lose forever one you love.
Listen to the other: Love in Full Flight. (Which he may never, ever do again once she was gone. Death being a bit more final than; oh, say divorce.)
Which is the True Freedom?
This is why I never answered this Thread, because I never really decided in my mind...
(Because Love can be; well, a "Ball & Chain.")
But, People, we must think twice...
quote:Originally posted by Ellynlvx:He wrote this one to her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKttwK7Ri7E Fritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, Kris.Her close friends have gatheredLord, ain't it a shame?Grieving togetherSharing the blameBut when she was dyingLord, we let her downThere's no use cryin'It can't help her nowThe party's all overDrink up and go homeIt's too late to love herAnd leave her aloneJust say she was someoneLord, so far from homeWhose life was so lonesomeShe died all aloneWho dreamed pretty dreamsThat never came trueLord, why was she bornSo black and blue?Oh, why was she bornSo black and blue?SongwritersFritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, KrisRead more: Kris Kristofferson - Epitaph (Black and Blue)
"She died all alone"
Oh, and regarding "Me & Bobby McGee:"
"Janis Joplin also covered the song for inclusion on her Pearl album only a few days before her death in October 1970. Kristofferson had sung the song for Joplin, and singer Bob Neuwirth taught it to her. Kristofferson, however, did not know she had covered it until after her death (the first time he heard it was the day after she died).[2] Joplin's version topped the charts to become her only number one single and in 2004, her version of this song was ranked No. 148 on Rolling Stone's list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time."
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