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Topic: Freedom
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geea Knowflake Posts: 768 From: hitchhiking through the galaxy Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 19, 2013 04:35 AM
What is freedom to you?IP: Logged |
geea Knowflake Posts: 768 From: hitchhiking through the galaxy Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 19, 2013 04:51 AM
to me freedom is no regretsIP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7137 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 25, 2013 05:11 AM
Freedom is unattainable on the physical plane. That's what I think.To me, freedom is being free of any need, emotion, or concern. Being on a different plane of existence. Sorry if that sounded too metaphysical.
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geea Knowflake Posts: 768 From: hitchhiking through the galaxy Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 25, 2013 06:59 AM
not at all, i like reading you, doux ^^IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7137 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 25, 2013 07:11 AM
Aww, thank you, geea. That's unexpected, haha.IP: Logged |
geea Knowflake Posts: 768 From: hitchhiking through the galaxy Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 26, 2013 10:32 AM
ofc, theres a few members i still like reading IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 7779 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2013 09:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Freedom is unattainable on the physical plane. That's what I think.To me, freedom is being free of any need, emotion, or concern. Being on a different plane of existence. Sorry if that sounded too metaphysical.
Being in a state of "no expectation" is freedom of these on the physical plane? ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 35425 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2013 11:26 AM
What is "ofc"?IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 7779 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2013 12:28 PM
I`m terrible at the modern shorthand as well but I interpreted it as "Of course".------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 2555 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 18, 2013 12:29 PM
Of Course?IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6308 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 18, 2013 03:13 PM
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 7779 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2013 04:29 PM
"Nothing ain't worth nothing but it's free" ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
CatMote Knowflake Posts: 575 From: Fighting Neptune for his trident Registered: Apr 2013
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posted December 18, 2013 04:36 PM
freedom...man theres a lot of different ways i thought about freedom over my short 21 year lifespan. what ive come up with (probably my 21 year old head speaking) is that freedom is the ability to make decisions without looking back. without your past choices haunting you. to be able to accept everything that you are, good and bad, and be able to live with it. and love yourself for it. ------------------ Sun Aries Moon Pisces Mars Pisces Venus Pisces Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn Ascendant Libra IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 2555 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 18, 2013 06:21 PM
Kris Kristofferson can really pen a lyric.You all know Bobby McGee. Ever heard this one? "Jesus Was a Capricorn" was written by Kristofferson, Kris
Jesus was a Capricorn He ate organic food He believed in love and peace And never wore no shoes Long hair, beard and sandals And a funky bunch of friends Reckon may just nail Him up If He come down again 'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on Prove they can be better than at any time they please Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on You can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me Get back, John Eggheads cursin', rednecks cussin' Hippies for their hair Others laugh at straights who laugh at Freaks who laugh at square Some folks hate the Whites Who hate the Blacks who hate the Klan Most of us hate anything that We don't understand 'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on Prove they can be better than at any time they please Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on But you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me Help yourself brother Help yourself [Incomprehensible] Help yourself brother Songwriters Kristofferson, Kris IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 7779 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2013 07:46 PM
Kris wrote it but Janis put the blues to it! Yep, an old KK fan here ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 2555 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 19, 2013 02:21 AM
He wrote this one to her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKttwK7Ri7E Fritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, Kris. Her close friends have gathered Lord, ain't it a shame? Grieving together Sharing the blame
But when she was dying Lord, we let her down There's no use cryin' It can't help her now The party's all over Drink up and go home It's too late to love her And leave her alone Just say she was someone Lord, so far from home Whose life was so lonesome She died all alone Who dreamed pretty dreams That never came true Lord, why was she born So black and blue? Oh, why was she born So black and blue? Songwriters Fritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, Kris Read more: Kris Kristofferson - Epitaph (Black and Blue)
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Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 2555 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 19, 2013 02:36 AM
But since we are talking Freedom here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaKybvCH3pA Thought of this song this morning. First I saw an Eagle (second day in a row) at the top of a bony old skeleton of a tree. Then I saw the Warm Golden Glow bathe the contours of Majestic Mount Shasta framed in the distance by a bowl shaped rounded greenery. It brought back to me the words of this song; in the context of this Thread. IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6308 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 19, 2013 09:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: He wrote this one to her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKttwK7Ri7E
Such beautiful lyrics, but then I tried listening to the song and his voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me. IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6308 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 19, 2013 09:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: But since we are talking Freedom here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaKybvCH3pA
^ Oh but this is nice Since we're talking music, lemme tell you that every time I broke up with my college boyfriend of four years (yes I'm a Pisces moon and stayed in the relationship so I wouldn't hurt his feelings, you got it!) I would be singing this song: I'm FREE I'm freeeee And I'm happppppy I am free from your hatred I've parted from the part That I participated So I'm free It was easy
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Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 2555 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 19, 2013 11:10 AM
Well, we have both been on the same page with this, because from the start I have been thinking that freedom for me is not being "in love."So, I guess this will be the final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIGCk6JcVLk
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Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 2555 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 19, 2013 12:13 PM
In response to the two opinions above regarding "Epitaph (Black & Blue)" and "Loving Her was Easier (Than Anything I'll Ever do Again) I was actually trying to bring all my thoughts together on this Thread; in a sort of juxtaposition. No Regrets. Sometimes we think that, when first we break the ties. Listen to the grate of that voice again, and think what it would be to lose forever one you love. Listen to the other: Love in Full Flight. (Which he may never, ever do again once she was gone. Death being a bit more final than; oh, say divorce.) Which is the True Freedom? This is why I never answered this Thread, because I never really decided in my mind... (Because Love can be; well, a "Ball & Chain.") But, People, we must think twice... IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 2555 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 19, 2013 12:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: He wrote this one to her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKttwK7Ri7E Fritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, Kris. Her close friends have gathered Lord, ain't it a shame? Grieving together Sharing the blame
But when she was dying Lord, we let her down There's no use cryin' It can't help her now The party's all over Drink up and go home It's too late to love her And leave her alone Just say she was someone Lord, so far from home Whose life was so lonesome She died all alone Who dreamed pretty dreams That never came true Lord, why was she born So black and blue? Oh, why was she born So black and blue? Songwriters Fritts, Donnie / Kristofferson, Kris Read more: Kris Kristofferson - Epitaph (Black and Blue)
"She died all alone" Oh, and regarding "Me & Bobby McGee:" "Janis Joplin also covered the song for inclusion on her Pearl album only a few days before her death in October 1970. Kristofferson had sung the song for Joplin, and singer Bob Neuwirth taught it to her. Kristofferson, however, did not know she had covered it until after her death (the first time he heard it was the day after she died).[2] Joplin's version topped the charts to become her only number one single and in 2004, her version of this song was ranked No. 148 on Rolling Stone's list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time." IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 2555 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 19, 2013 12:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0t0EW6z8a0 http://www.examiner.com/article/janis-joplin-her-final-hours These things grate on us all, guess that's how Pearls are formed...
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