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T O P I C R E V I E WVoix_de_la_Mer3 years ago when I joined LL, on occasion I would be quite unreasonable with members regarding some topics.I was going to name members' names out of respect, but I do not want to forget anyone, so I have decided not to.I just want to say to these members, and anyone who had to read my tempestuous responses, that I am truly sorry for not conducting myself with more understanding and consideration for your feelings, beliefs, and wisdom.Voix_de_la_MerWhen I joined LL I was really quite insecure in myself. I had ironically recently experienced a freeing from old problems, and had a new lease of life, and desire to learn new things.I thought I was more illuminated than I really was.Unfortunately, I overestimated my level of growth, and could not see how my communication was far from mature at times.My level of self-righteousness is embarrassing.I'm probably not even out of the woods yet.I have, however, grown a lot since then.This time, I will try not to overestimate myself at the expense of others.I am pledging to have more patience, understanding and compassion for others.We are all navigating the same sea with different maps. I must remember this.I'd like to also give gratitude for those of you who suspended judgement of me, and have not only welcomed me here regardless of my shortcomings, but still took the time to share your gifts with me.Ami AnneWe all make mistakes. It takes a very big person to acknowledge them and I honor and respect you for that.I remember your chart because it was a very hard one. You have many challenges which most people will never have or understand, so they can't begin to understand the struggles you had imoI am really glad you are back ------------------Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Voix_de_la_MerAmi,I am very glad you responded to this thread.Please accept a direct apology from me for my negative conduct toward you in the past.You are right. I have/had many challenges.But I must not lose sight of my responsibility in thought, word and deed.People are precious.Ami AnneI am so touched by your words. I have had to say I am sorry many, many times and with great respect for you, I accept ------------------Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Dancing MaenadI am very glad that you are back. ------------------~the raving one dancing in the nude~PixieJaneWater under the bridge. Honestly, I recall that you posted here but I don't recall the behavior you describe. Though stick around, LL is Scorpio (that is the board was created then so that's the sun sign for LL), and sooner or later that energy is going to get us or even fill us, it happens to nearly all of us at one time or another. Voix_de_la_MerAmi,thank you for understanding.Dancing Maenad,that is lovely to hear, thank you for welcoming me back.Pixiejane,the behaviour was sporadic. I didn't deliberately set out to antagonise, but I didn't stop either when I realised. I communicated selfishly when challenged.Sure sign that I was not even confident of my own wisdom, deep down.Thank you for your acceptance.How fitting LL is a Scorpio.RandallI've fallen to its Scorpionic energy myself a time or two. Voix_de_la_MerThank you for relating Randall.You've all made me feel much better about this,thank you for being such brilliant examples.Dancing Maenad,did you have a different name a few years back?Dancing Maenad quote:Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:Dancing Maenad,did you have a different name a few years back?Yes, Voix - it was Hera. Sorry, I forgot to mention it in all the excitement. I don't remember the things you mentioned, I remember you as a calming and warm presence, at least towards me. You gave me advice and guidance in a time I needed it very much. ------------------~the raving one dancing in the nude~charmainecWelcome back.------------------Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma.Linda Goodman"DON'T EVER try and destroy someone's life with a LIE.....when yours can be destroyed with the TRUTH...." S.JacobsVoix_de_la_MerDancingMaenad,yes I thought that was you.You made great efforts on my part too, I remember you helping me find my Pluto energy in the dwads. Charmainec,thank you for welcoming me back.Ami AnneYou know, my whole life I was afraid of making mistakes. I was like a manicured lawn, everything in place. After my son died, I could not take being like that anymore. I came on here and decided I would let people know me. I did a lot of things that rubbed people the wrong way. I had a lot of pain and I had a lot of emotions that were raw and not pretty to me around. I did not have my voice and in the process of getting it, I was abrasive to people, too. A few people loved me through it and that is how and why I came through it. How could I ever reject anyone going through the same thing ------------------Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Voix_de_la_Mer quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:You know, my whole life I was afraid of making mistakes. I was like a manicured lawn, everything in place. After my son died, I could not take being like that anymore. I came on here and decided I would let people know me. I did a lot of things that rubbed people the wrong way. I had a lot of pain and I had a lot of emotions that were raw and not pretty to me around. I did not have my voice and in the process of getting it, I was abrasive to people, too. A few people loved me through it and that is how and why I came through it. How could I ever reject anyone going through the same thing I completely relate to this Ami.It reminds me of a quote by my mentor:"Mistakes are, afterall, the foundations of truth, and if a man does not know what a thing is, it is at least an increase in knowledge if he knows what it is not"----- Carl JungAmi AnneI have the asteroid Jung conj my Sun, exact. I resonate with him so much and when I do my charts, I do them like this. I go in and try to help the person face his darkness. Then, it can go away ------------------Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Voix_de_la_MerI like your method Ami, it's often going into the dark that can set us free.I am also a huge fan of Rogers.Ami Anne quote:Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:I like your method Ami, it's often going into the dark that can set us free.I am also a huge fan of Rogers.Thank you, V. I like Rogers Ok, but it would take a very long time to help someone with this BUT people have to feel acceptance in order to change so Rogers was right. The time involved would be a great deal of years in therapy, I think, and to me, you could get there faster with the addition of Jung but I hate to do counseling w/out charts. You really can't figure out what is REALLY going on w/out the charts imo------------------Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/juniperbVoice of the Sea, it`s wonderful to see you appear again. I had often thought of you and wondered how you were. I still have not made it back to my ancestors homeland.Someday! Welcome back !------------------Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. RumiVoix_de_la_Mer quote:Originally posted by juniperb:Voice of the Sea, it`s wonderful to see you appear again. I had often thought of you and wondered how you were. I still have not made it back to my ancestors homeland.Someday! Welcome back !Hello Juniper,I'm warmed that you had wondered about me, its not something I expect, so that's lovely.And I'm sure you'll make it when the time is right.Thank you for welcoming me back.RandallWelcome back.
I was going to name members' names out of respect, but I do not want to forget anyone, so I have decided not to.
I just want to say to these members, and anyone who had to read my tempestuous responses, that I am truly sorry for not conducting myself with more understanding and consideration for your feelings, beliefs, and wisdom.
My level of self-righteousness is embarrassing.
I'm probably not even out of the woods yet.I have, however, grown a lot since then.
This time, I will try not to overestimate myself at the expense of others.
I am pledging to have more patience, understanding and compassion for others.
We are all navigating the same sea with different maps. I must remember this.
I'd like to also give gratitude for those of you who suspended judgement of me, and have not only welcomed me here regardless of my shortcomings, but still took the time to share your gifts with me.
We all make mistakes. It takes a very big person to acknowledge them and I honor and respect you for that.
I remember your chart because it was a very hard one. You have many challenges which most people will never have or understand, so they can't begin to understand the struggles you had imo
I am really glad you are back
------------------Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course.
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
I am very glad you responded to this thread.Please accept a direct apology from me for my negative conduct toward you in the past.
You are right. I have/had many challenges.But I must not lose sight of my responsibility in thought, word and deed.
People are precious.
------------------~the raving one dancing in the nude~
Honestly, I recall that you posted here but I don't recall the behavior you describe. Though stick around, LL is Scorpio (that is the board was created then so that's the sun sign for LL), and sooner or later that energy is going to get us or even fill us, it happens to nearly all of us at one time or another.
Dancing Maenad,that is lovely to hear, thank you for welcoming me back.
Pixiejane,the behaviour was sporadic. I didn't deliberately set out to antagonise, but I didn't stop either when I realised. I communicated selfishly when challenged.Sure sign that I was not even confident of my own wisdom, deep down.Thank you for your acceptance.
How fitting LL is a Scorpio.
You've all made me feel much better about this,thank you for being such brilliant examples.
Dancing Maenad,did you have a different name a few years back?
quote:Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:Dancing Maenad,did you have a different name a few years back?
Yes, Voix - it was Hera. Sorry, I forgot to mention it in all the excitement.
I don't remember the things you mentioned, I remember you as a calming and warm presence, at least towards me. You gave me advice and guidance in a time I needed it very much.
------------------Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma.
Linda Goodman
"DON'T EVER try and destroy someone's life with a LIE.....when yours can be destroyed with the TRUTH...." S.Jacobs
yes I thought that was you.You made great efforts on my part too, I remember you helping me find my Pluto energy in the dwads.
Charmainec,
thank you for welcoming me back.
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:You know, my whole life I was afraid of making mistakes. I was like a manicured lawn, everything in place. After my son died, I could not take being like that anymore. I came on here and decided I would let people know me. I did a lot of things that rubbed people the wrong way. I had a lot of pain and I had a lot of emotions that were raw and not pretty to me around. I did not have my voice and in the process of getting it, I was abrasive to people, too. A few people loved me through it and that is how and why I came through it. How could I ever reject anyone going through the same thing
I completely relate to this Ami.
It reminds me of a quote by my mentor:
"Mistakes are, afterall, the foundations of truth, and if a man does not know what a thing is, it is at least an increase in knowledge if he knows what it is not"
----- Carl Jung
I am also a huge fan of Rogers.
quote:Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:I like your method Ami, it's often going into the dark that can set us free.I am also a huge fan of Rogers.
Thank you, V. I like Rogers Ok, but it would take a very long time to help someone with this BUT people have to feel acceptance in order to change so Rogers was right. The time involved would be a great deal of years in therapy, I think, and to me, you could get there faster with the addition of Jung but I hate to do counseling w/out charts. You really can't figure out what is REALLY going on w/out the charts imo
I had often thought of you and wondered how you were. I still have not made it back to my ancestors homeland.Someday! Welcome back !
------------------Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi
quote:Originally posted by juniperb:Voice of the Sea, it`s wonderful to see you appear again. I had often thought of you and wondered how you were. I still have not made it back to my ancestors homeland.Someday! Welcome back !
Hello Juniper,
I'm warmed that you had wondered about me, its not something I expect, so that's lovely.
And I'm sure you'll make it when the time is right.
Thank you for welcoming me back.
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