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posted August 27, 2004 01:14 AM            

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when u have both aquarius and strong gemini?
will u be absent minded or notice every thing around???

like gemini rising and aquarius sun....

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posted August 27, 2004 01:54 AM            

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I would think that you would probably notice quite a bit that others do not, and fail to notice many of the things that others take for granted.

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posted August 27, 2004 06:24 AM            

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Aqua,
With gemini rising the only things you miss are when your talking (which is all the time) Air signs are communicators and supreme intellectuals. The really good thing with air is the absence of emotion. True brain power.

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posted August 27, 2004 09:53 AM              

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Air signs aren't absent of emotion! That's nonsense, and the fact I'm taking such deep offense at that comment proves the point (I have all inner planets in air signs, minus my moon - in emotional yet in a transpersonal, transcedent way Pisces - plus an air grand trine with a Libra Uranius signleton). That's like saying we're all psychopaths or have no souls. No. We are just better at being detached and objective and not letting our emotions dominate us. Plus we are very adept at communicating our emotions through ideas instead of emotional displays and emotionally driven gestures, especially Gems and Aqua, which others mistake for being umemotional. But that is the other party's error and not our deficiency. So just because you don't see our emotions, doesn't mean they don't exist.

Aqua - I have a lot of Gem with strong Aqua influences and I am both: I have Asperger's Syndrome, which is a form of autism. Like a typical Aspie, I notice details, slight changes and patterns that everyone else misses, but at the same time am often oblivious to social cues and nuances and just generally lost in my orbit, only half aware (at best) of what's going on around me. Autistics, including me, are usually more interested in objects than people, so our mind unconsciously foucses on objects rather than human activities (and for the record, autistics aren't unemotional either - we normally have extremely intense emotions, but our ubercerebral neuro-makeup often makes it difficult for us to express those emotions in ways that make sense to neurotypical people). Granted this bias is rooted in a neurological difference that high-functioning autistics have, but at my age, it's had a definitive effect on the development of my personality. So people see me as absent-minded, because I don't pay attention to them (well, if they were interesting, perhaps I would ), but in fact I am very attentive - to the point of obsessiveness sometimes - of the things that my mind focuses in on.

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posted August 27, 2004 10:17 AM              

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Gemini -

She's using a frame of reference. You misunderstood. She is saying, where there is air, there is "an absence" (as in less of to a certain known or perhaps unknown degree)...

Like, where there is water, there is an absence of air!

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posted August 27, 2004 02:40 PM              

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Perhaps that is what she meant, but I would still strongly disagree that one element would be so pure and isolated as to be utterly devoid. If you wish to make that argument, then one only needs to point out that the elements as used in astrology are indeed based on the elements of nature, and no such purity exists in nature, only in human idealism, which is not reality, whether you are dealing with nature or astrology. Afterall, astrology is reflective of the dynamism of nature that is in turn reflective of our human nature. It view the teaching of astrology is such a static way is setting one's sef up for errors.

Therefore, like in nature, we must look at the elemetns without such idealism, but with a sense of realism. For example, air consists only of gas particles, but also diffused particles of the other three elements, be it dust, moisture, electricity, etc. Same is true with the other three elements. Likewise, to pursue this logic further, one can see when you have a specific element, such as air, how it would react to the presence of the particles of other elements contained within. With air, it is through a sense of detachment. With earth, it is with embodiment; fire consumation; water immersion.

In essence each elements possesses parts of the other three elements and reacts to them according tot he properties of that element; it is just when you identify an element as a specific element, you have a preponderence of that specific element acting as the basis or the medium, and therefore being the principle element that defines its quality and dominate attributes.

While you may have circumstance that might produce an element with very little presence of the other three elements, either in nature or astrology, is never so pure as to be completely devoid of only of the other three elements. Such purity cannot be produced by nature - it can be produced by humans in labortories however, and the result is very telling. When you remove all the "impurities" from earth, for example, what you get is something so sterile that it is incapable of sustaining life. Very simply, earth that is devoid within itself of warmth, aeration and moisture will not possess the qualities that otherwise makes earth fruitful the way it is in nature.

I think when doing astrology we should be mindful and intuitively open to this wisdom when understanding and interpreting the elemental qualities of each signs, since understanding the elements is a fundamental part of the astrological system.

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posted August 27, 2004 05:40 PM              

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One is not more real than the other.

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posted August 27, 2004 09:06 PM            

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but AJ won't we take into consideration that water is made up of air???

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posted August 27, 2004 11:35 PM              

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... and that's the whole point.

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posted August 28, 2004 11:13 PM            

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so finally where do we land????

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posted August 31, 2004 02:16 AM            

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posted August 31, 2004 02:38 AM              

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We land just where we landed. Unless we missed something...?

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posted August 31, 2004 02:42 PM            

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but i still have'nt landed.so tell me where to land.

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