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alma-noble
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posted February 22, 2005 12:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anybody knows what kind of aspects can be on somebody's natal map to show some conection with a death of his brother?

I know somebody in this situation and I was curious to see if you can see something about on his natal

Or which planet represent "the brother" and which house?

Thank you!

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pixelpixie
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posted February 22, 2005 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3rd House

Communications; the analytical mind; early and immediate environment; school years; relatives; brothers and sisters; early peer groups; short journeys

Look to transits.. (Pluto?) to the third house.

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key
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posted February 22, 2005 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi -

In trying to figure out explantions - the following attracted me to astrology:

My brother was killed in a car accident. I was also going in the car, but at the last minute - I got a horrible and hot feeling, and just could not get into the car. After the car pulled out of the driveway, I went running and screaming after the car - "come back; come back; come back". Went in the house took a shower, started crying uncontrollably - wrapped a towel around me and ran down the driveway again - screaming. Got the call about (20) minutes later.

Any way, I have sun conjunct moon in aries in the 3rd (house of communication and siblings). My sun and moon oppose neptune. Mars in aries is also in the 3rd house. Same with mercury. Saturn in the 8th.


KEY

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iAmThat
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posted February 22, 2005 11:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So sorry for your brother....


Each one has a supersoul (Parmatna) within them....Then there is an Supreme truth (Purushottama) who is present in everyone and yet is one.

He had killed your brother before the action had occurred. He had also saved you when he had plans for your brother.

He has made me write this and he has also made you read it.

I didn't take a look at astrological aspect..will take a look sometime

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alma-noble
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posted February 23, 2005 05:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, everybody,Is not my brother, but somebody's very dear to me... I am very sory for Key's brother as well!
Thank you!

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alma-noble
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posted March 03, 2005 04:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Sun is conjunct mercury in 3rd and oppose Neptune, ( as well - like you Key )

And what is interesting is the ruler of XIth his 8th from 3rd (house derivated for his brother's death) is in 4th from 3rd (the final of life, for his brother) !!!
Plus pluto was in transit in this 8th one!(his XIth)!

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key
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posted March 03, 2005 01:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everybody -

I didn't want to respond back and dredge up all of those old feelings, but I guess I must really want to - cause here I am.

It took me years and years to get over the guilt of my brother's death. If I had gone to the coin auction, I would have sat in the front passenger's seat, and my brother would have lived (the driver in the car survived).

The other reason for guilt is that I knew not to get into the car. I was dressed up and excited about going out with my brother and his friend. I was home for spring break from my first year of college, and I was looking forward to spending time with my brother. I could not get into the car. I knew not to go on the trip. My brother - Chuck - was hurt and upset that I wasn't joining them, and I felt bad about not going. Unfortunately, just as the car pulled out, I figured out that my brother shouldn't be going, either. I just didn't know in time. Couldn't get the car back.

I have had many intuitive feelings over the years, but nothing like this. I think I knew the exact time my brother died. It was while I was in the shower - I could just feel it - and a connection with him and his suffering. It was awful. I never told my parents any of this until a few years ago. My Mom said that she had known for years that one of her children would die young, but thought it would be me.

Any way, ever since then I have trusted my intuitive feelings more than my knowledge/ facts of situations. While sometimes good comes about because of "feelings", most of the time I am scared to death and shaky when I get a pre-feeling. The little feelings are okay - like knowing to call a friend when she is going through a crisis - before I know about it.

I think that in the 3rd house of siblings and short trips - to have sun and moon conjunct in aries opposing neptune, along with mars and mercury - with saturn in the 8th. Guess that it why I got interested in astrology. It really seems to spell out what happened to me.

This is how I came to cope with it all -
"it is what it is"

KEY

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noreenz
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posted March 03, 2005 11:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Key~

Say, what degree does your Neptune oppose Sun & Moon?

I too had a brother that was killed, I was 17 and he was 23. I don't think my chart reflects anything, but then again, I am still pretty green when it comes to astrology.

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key
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posted March 04, 2005 10:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Noreenz -

I am sorry about your brother. Pretty hard to get through.

Here is the info you requested about my chart:

sun conj moon (aries) 2 02
sun opp neptune (libra) 2 35
moon opp neptune 4 37
moon square uranus 8 00

My sun: 15Ari 39 46
Moon: 13Ari 37 39
Neptune: 18lib 14 25

Love to you -
KEY

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astro junkie
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posted March 05, 2005 01:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sympathies to everyone going through this. Very interesting look at the 3rd House and possible Transits. But don't get too hung up on it. It's a very personal subject, and I hope that we can learn from one another and help in this regard, at the very least.

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