posted March 06, 2005 04:09 PM            

One night I was talking to him on the phone and he was saying how he planned on moving back home instead of living in Chicago because he can't find a good job and he's just tired of everything ect. Then, he says, "No offense, but I'm not moving back because of you. I mean, don't get me wrong I really like you and wanna see you and everything, but it's more about what's good for me right now."
It never even crossed my mind that I would be the reason he moved. I thought what he said was silly and was kind of offended he would assume that. I've only know him 2 months. What I don't get is the fact that HE has gone on and on about how he wants to be with me yada, yada--and ends up contradicting himself. I just do not understand. Anyone have experiences like this with Gems? I would love any wise input from Gemini's too if you could help.

Do Gems just get afraid of feeling strongly for someone? I just want to know where he stands. He gets very uneasy when it comes to talking about how he feels, then he just changes the subject..."whatever dude, you know how I feel, I've told you"..LOL!!!
He has Virgo rising (like me) w/ Sun/Moon/Merc in Gem all in the 9th house. Venus/Mars in Taurus 8th--(and my Taurus Moon is in the 8th house as well).

posted March 06, 2005 05:33 PM              

Geminis hate needing anyone,
you can't make a Gemini happy, their moods are up and down everyday,

posted March 07, 2005 08:26 AM              

Maybe I'm naive.

posted March 07, 2005 08:47 AM            

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Sounds awfully similar to superficial, shallow, and pretending to be something they are not.

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LOL

posted March 07, 2005 09:20 AM              

so yes, Geminis like to be superior, very superior at all times,
after a while, they will look for cooler people to hang out with, and will come back to you when they see you talking to someone hip.

Dont' ever encourage a Gemini to be happy, make yourself happy and let him know you are. Geminis are happier when things are bad for them so they can be superior again. Happy, people irritate them-according to the ex. He liked brooding, bitchy women, so he could take care of them, not the other way around. Secretly Geminis like to be angry, they want to be the angry one. Do not try to steal a Geminis thunder this way.

LIke Swerve said before, ignore Geminis and do not buy into their playful child routine, or treat them like adults, and they will respect you. Once you let them off the hook, they will walk all over you. After all, you wouldn't let a child get away with everything would you?

So you have to ask yourself what you really want or need from the Gemini? If the answer is nothing, you just want to be his friend, that's prime doormat material. Make your needs super clear, as long as you are comfortable with yourself, he will come back. But if you want to know where all Geminis
end up,

It's back to Mother, that's where the home fires are burning, the real mother, she's the only one who puts up with everything, and he never strays far from there, or from someone closely resembling a mother, older, with money, never asks questions.

My Aqua/Cancer moon friend told me this, he said most men never stray far from Momma, and it's true, it's a sign of dependence.

I was married to a Libra/Gemini/Gemini, all in the 6th, which is pretty close to a Gemini and he would never believe anything I said, if I had to walk home because the car broke down, he would call me a liar, say I was trying to gain sympathy. He couldn't stand that I was better than him, even in that way for one moment. In front of other people he always had to have all the answers, decide everything.

It sounds like your Gemini is getting resentful that you know more than he does. It's time for him to move in with someone who can be bossed around on a daily basis.

posted March 07, 2005 12:06 PM              

Im guessing youre a leo like me. I have 2 gemini men in my life. Theres my fiance and a very very close friend who if circumstances were different, I probably would have a relationship with him in another time and another place. Now my fiance is more of a homebody than your average gemini. The only thing I find gemini about him is his temper.

But then there is my friend and the second I read your post I thought of him right away. A lot of times he "disappears" and I dont hear from him for awhile, and Im pretty sure its because the odd closeness of our relationship kinda freaks him out. Yet he always gets dangerously close with me and flirts with me, however if I do the same with him he gets all wierded out.

posted March 07, 2005 01:03 PM              

Gems are not usually possessive, nor do we usually have bad tempers...we enjoy stimulating conversation with smart people-not people who pretend they are smart...never like to be hemmed in...anytime, anywhere. If we are with you, it is by choice, not really for any other reason I feel.

As for the mood-swings..I am a Cancer Moon so I am not sure how to answer that clearly. If I feeling in a bad mood, it usually goes away quickly(within hours). For the most part though, I have a fun, happy and positive outlook and often feel that people come to me for pick-me-up phone calls etc...

One thing your Gem guy is probably doing (a bad habit we have)is
over-analysing EVERYTHING and EVERYONE!! Arrrghhhhh...it is a bad habit to break and unintentional in some ways. He is probably making sure you are not getting any crazy ideas like-he likes you..ha,ha...which he probably does but wants to take some more time thinking about it!! LOL! We like to think too much!

I have met all kinds of Geminis, been best friends with many and have traded out several who were unworthy types...because we are so mutable, it is much harder to pidgeon-hole us into any one category.

So I will wish those of you who have had bad experiences with other Geminis, please know that there are many more Gems who are lovable and want to make your life less boring (in a good way)!!

posted March 07, 2005 01:25 PM            

Natasha, have you known many Gemini's? I seem to attract them frequently and have a few in my family.

Saturn's Child, thank you for all you said.
It makes complete sense. He called me last night (we talk every night) and it worried me a bit (my Mercury in Virgo overanalyzes everything to death!). He was telling me he sucks and he has nothing to offer me. I was like, 'what are you talking about? where is this coming from?' He told me he was just laying out the facts--he's really upset he can't find a decent job after graduating from college. I told him I wasn't worried about it because I like HIM not his money. He couldn't stop bringing it up. He hates being poor and not having any security. So I just said, "well, hey if you don't want to talk to me anymore I understand. It's ok, you don't have to make up excuses." Then, he was like, "I didn't say that, don't twist it around on you." I told him I wasn't. After I got off the phone I was kinda depressed. I really like him and don't want to just let everything go because he's afraid. We've both put a lot of time and energy into our relationship. What should I do?

posted March 08, 2005 01:31 PM              

If you have your own insecurities you have to deal with them by being angry with him, not begging him for explanations.

Anything that smacks of weakness turns the Gemini off, that is why they pick strong women always. Sometimes these strong women get depressed being strong all the time, getting angry once in a while is healthy,

In any case, your Gemini is stating his weakness, and vulnerability, he needs you, but he won't sit out on a limb forever, nothing is scarier for him. He's not a Leo, he can't give out hearts and kisses at first sight.

He's everyone's friend though,
The real question is how deeply do you want to get involved and what are your emotional needs? I won't do a chart reading if you can't answer those questions, and those are questions that require deep introspection.

posted March 09, 2005 02:56 PM            

To answer your questions.."how deeply do you want to get involved and what are your emotional needs?"

I really like the Gemini and would love to be with him too. I want to make sure he feels the same and don't want to jump too quickly into anything. I like getting to know him. I want to see where it goes. Right now things are going well, but he seems to be backing off a bit. So then, I panic and wonder, 'what happened? Is is something I did/said? did I not say enough?' My emotional needs are pretty basic, I think. I want to feel secure w/someone most of all (if I want to be w/them). Must be my Taurus Moon. I just worry because if the Gemini doesn't want to bother w/me, I'd rather not invest huge amounts of time and energy. I know what I want out of it, I am just unsure about him.....and again, it makes me worryworryworry(aka thee Virgo influence). I need him to tell me how he feels and he won't. He told me once and then doesn't want to bring it up again for whatever reason. He's probably just scared. He might be thinking I don't care as must as he does, but it's not true. I need to pace myself and put a little more thought into it than he does, I guess. I would think with Venus/Mars/8th house in Taurus he'd be a little more patient. Once I know how he (or how anyone) feels for sure, I can open up much easier. With Venus in Cancer it can sometimes take a while for me to express myself...especially when I am skeptical of someone. I'm very protective and cautious. I can't help it.
anywho, sorry to ramble....
Again Natasha, many thanks as always.

xoxo

AJ, pidaua: What's going on w/Pluto and Gemi's?? Does it make things difficult for them?

posted March 10, 2005 07:49 PM              

Hint, that you are looking for a man to give you
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Here is where you have to fill in your own need
just have one, it's easier,
Then wait to see if he calls you back then,
if you are not too demanding he's not too interested, but it can't come off like desperate,

All I do now with the air signs and dating, is lay my cards on the table.....

Wait to see who calls me back....

Who doesn't are the ones I call back and we are friends only, as it's understood.

The ones that are left are interested,
you can't chase ones that aren't interested in your life goal.

Now the hard part is figuring out your goal?
That takes a lot of work, with friends,
Mine is to live with someone I can stand waking up with every morning,

If he's the one, you ought to be able to do that, unless for some reason you have another goal, just put your cards on the table in PERSON not on the phone.