posted December 05, 2006 12:38 PM            

Just kidding

posted December 05, 2006 12:50 PM              

** Retrograde (Rx) Saturn in the natal chart is still Saturn, however modified in its action. It is still the planet of structure, organization, discipline, and perseverance. The function of the Rx Saturn will be expressed as other than expected. Everyone has Saturn somewhere in the natal horoscope. The person with a Rx Saturn has a built-in maturity and discipline to help him handle any of the Saturn-like problems or situations that Life may bring. **

posted December 05, 2006 01:00 PM            

How does it feel? Not sure.

I'm a Capricorn, for one, so is it distinguishable?

This interp seems about right for me:

Saturn Retrograde- Persons with Saturn Retrograde in their birth charts do not like to be known in public (except my 5th house Moon), they find security in intellectuals or spirituals. They easily yield to external influences. They appear shy, uneasy, introvert, lacking in self assertion or attempt to cover their lapse with the pretext of arrogance. They feel alone, isolated, separated from their friends and are seldom understood and very reserved.

I don't really feel alone anymore. I'm somewhat reserved, but not altogether obviously. I think there may be other compensations for it as well.

HD,

I got the date here: http://www.cafeastrology.com/retrogrades.html

posted December 05, 2006 01:06 PM            

There are various interpretations on that planetary position. I have a book on it, but it's at home.

I did find the following information online:

Retrograde (Rx) Saturn in the natal chart is still Saturn, however modified in its action. It is still the planet of structure, organization, discipline, and perseverance. The function of the Rx Saturn will be expressed as other than expected. Everyone has Saturn somewhere in the natal horoscope. The person with a Rx Saturn has a built-in maturity and discipline to help him handle any of the Saturn-like problems or situations that Life may bring.
http://www.arlenekramer.com/astrology11.asp

A retrograde Saturn represents things in your life that have been neglected, denied or postponed. Often, these latter point to past lives, but too, they can apply to your childhood and early adulthood. As you grow older and more mature, you begin to get a different perspective on your duties and responsibilities. Many with Saturn retrograde are the proverbial "workaholics" and will need to incorporate some quiet time and time for recreation and relaxation into their lives. Sometimes, this configuration foretells of a child or teen who is neglected by his or her parents, or guardian. As a child, you may have only "felt" neglected, which somehow stifled your emotions or made it difficult for you to express yourself on an emotional level. Later in life. If not checked and set on the right track, you could find it difficult to be emotionally honest in your most important relationships. In order not to become crystallized in your thinking or habits, you will need to be open minded in life. You will need to investigate, research and try out new avenues of expression and philosophic thought. Oddly, Saturn retrograde individuals have the potential to be great teachers, because they have experienced so much of life at it's many and diverse levels. While you may not actually enter the teaching profession per se, notice how often you are thrown into situations as advisor, counselor or teacher to others, throughout your life. Shoulder your responsibilities in your mature years, and you will find that your rewards and gratification will reach beyond expectation. Neglect your duties and the opposite will be true. Do not avoid your feelings. Examine and analyze them. Become comfortable with your emotions and you will find less limitations where your relationships and experiences are concerned.

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I hope this helped.

posted December 05, 2006 03:13 PM            

Pidaua, that's interesting about the retrograde/neglect thing. I have saturn retrograde in scorpio in the 4th house (nasty, eh?!) and I, along with my sister, were terribly neglected by our parents. (My sister has saturn retrograde in sagittarius in her 2nd house). We both find this hard to deal with a lot of the time, but we have each other to lean on which is helpful, as we have a good bond.
Weirdly, both my parents have evrything direct, except my mum's saturn, which is stationary. Both of their parents were very involved for the most part, and have also been frustrated with our parents selfishness.

posted December 05, 2006 03:21 PM            

I am sorry about your childhood.

I wasn't neglected but I was taught to control my emotions. My father (Capricorn) is a former Soldier and is retired Law Enforcement. He taught us early on not to show our fear or pain- to keep going so that no one would see the vulnerabilities. My mother (Cancer) is the opposite- very emotional but not very nurturing.

As it turned out my brother (a fellow Archer like me) has his Sun in the 10th house and I have mine in the 4th. He has a Scorp Moon and I have an Aries moon (both indicative of the mother not being one to nurture).

Luckily my Father was not only strong, but he was also able to show his love much easier than my mother. I also had a Leo grandmother (Capricorn Moon) that lived with us and was more of a mother to me than my own mother. When my GM died, I was devastatd. She was the one that took care of us when we were sick because mom would totally gross out and wouldnt't be of any help.

I took after my grandmother- and have played nurse to everything from stray animals to sick friends and relatives. LOL....

posted December 05, 2006 03:50 PM            

That's again interesting what you said about the moon signs!!! My sister has a scorpio moon (which I've heard can sometimes result in having a resentful mother) and I have an aquarius moon, which I've read is indicative of an eccentric, unstable and sometimes neglectful mother. Apparently not always, but sometimes. It's certainly true in my case.

It must have been devastating to lose your GM when she was your nurturer. It's lovely that you've taken after her. My father's mother is my nurturer and I will be inconsolable the day I lose her. She spoils me rotten, even now I am an adult! Infact, I'm going to see her tomorrow and I can't wait!!! I've taken after her a lot myself - generous to a bloody fault!!!

posted December 05, 2006 09:20 PM              

i am a cappy with retro saturn in libra in 3rd )

and i can totally agree with this :

Saturn Retrograde- Persons with Saturn Retrograde in their birth charts do not like to be known in public (except my 5th house Moon), they find security in intellectuals or spirituals....They appear shy, uneasy, introvert, lacking in self assertion....They feel alone, isolated, separated from their friends and are seldom understood and very reserved.

altho i have improved a lot and dont feel like i am misunderstood. like with all things saturn, its getting better with time

taurus/gemini cusp, me and my sis r both saturn retrograde's, and we had a very disturbed childhood too. wont go into the details, but my father was mostly absent.

posted December 05, 2006 10:44 PM              

thanks HD...

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The person with a Rx Saturn has a built-in maturity and discipline to help him handle any of the Saturn-like problems or situations that Life may bring. **

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AG, all of this rang true for me...

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Saturn Retrograde- Persons with Saturn Retrograde in their birth charts do not like to be known in public (except my 5th house Moon), they find security in intellectuals or spirituals. They easily yield to external influences. They appear shy, uneasy, introvert, lacking in self assertion or attempt to cover their lapse with the pretext of arrogance. They feel alone, isolated, separated from their friends and are seldom understood and very reserved.

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