posted January 23, 2007 03:41 PM            

Ok, William, what you said was very interesting and you made an excellent and vaild point - I would like to make a couple of other points/ask some questions and see where it leads...
Pagan/ancient rites and rituals did have a sexual element BUT it was not one big orgy and in fact only an initiated few actually 'indulged' in the process. These rites were firstly concerned with fertility e.g. a ritual joining of male and female energy in the hope of encouraging a good harvest.

We live in a patrichal (?spelling, sorry) society and indeed it has much to answer for in terms of the role women have been cast in - hence the seemingly 'sinful' act of sexual union as women are perceived to be the cause of 'original sin'. Sex with a woman can therefore only be pure if you are trying to create another human life, otherwise it will always have to be debased in some form or another in order to justify it - hence women being encouraged in the modern media to take the role of 'temptress' - sexual liberation has nothing to do with our current state.

Sex is only every truly fulfilling on a spiritual level if you love the person - within that union sexuality, passion and the erotic can all be explored in a safe environment, with tenderness and freedom from guilt.

Guilt is always the major factor at play here - sexual repression would not exist if guilt was not an aspect and if guilt is something someone feels then they need to meditate on this aspect to try and find the source. It is not only popular doctrine that creates problems - complete sexual 'freedom' in the form many practise it now can be a deeply damaging and lonely experience! How terrible!

What lotus said is very important - we must not lose sight of the ultimate union and balanced sharing of the male/female sexual act. Balance is the aim!

posted January 23, 2007 05:00 PM              

Thanks for taking the time to post this, it truly does mean the World to me...
for I have been pondering, why, I even bother to post at Lindaland...

When the tablets and plates from this beginning, of this Creation are revealed
People will finally SEE, how far we have strayed from God our Creator, and the Universal God Laws...
The way sex is perceived today, pushes all the limits of the Law, in this Laws for instance, no anal penetration..it is forbidden, exit only...Yet today, this is nothing, People won't want to believe me, they don't want to here Truth, I am always under attack here, and frankly I'm tired of the attacks, insults and disrespect..
if you don't agree with me, ignore me, the fact that people feel compelled to hurt others on purpose..shows what kind of people we are...
I have been here over 1 1/2 years, and have shared my heart and soul..In OOber Galaxy and Universal Codes, Many journeyed with me..In LOve and LIght,
but so many more fought and fight with the dark army

it is your Free Wi11 choice...

the laws are simple, and you get what you give!

The fact that members are allowed to get away with this on Linda Goodman.com is beyond me...

Linda revealed mysteries, and she left clues, to finish her work...

yet people are not interested in Mastership..and helping one another, instead they talk about things that have no importance to
The Secret Codes of the Universe

I am now at a lost for words
I have deep pain and sorrow
for this human race
for they are oblivious and unaware. ...

posted January 23, 2007 05:49 PM              

i don't have much to say. bcoz like william i don't want to argue with anyone's religious beliefs.

i just thought i'd point out wht william (i *think*) and me referred to...

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The Secret Codes of the Universe

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It is your belief that they r the secret codes of the universe. they may hold very true for you, but from someone else's point of view, its a belief (and a religious/spiritual one....from my point of view). reality is subjective. wht u think is 'universal' may not be so uh, universal for others.

posted January 23, 2007 05:56 PM              

I have the Trinity within, with God..as in the Beginning As Above
So below

we are all connected, brothers and sisters...

so point, seems mute...

posted January 23, 2007 06:08 PM              

I have nothing more to add.

ILWL

posted January 23, 2007 08:57 PM              

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What lotus said is very important - we must not lose sight of the ultimate union and balanced sharing of the male/female sexual act. Balance is the aim!

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Well, I agree with william. There is clear inference of religious beliefs that impose piety (a code of behavior that indicate and advertise one's religiosity), and it's being presented in a way that assumes it's universally applicable to all and above being questioned or dissented from. In other words, it's dogma.

Not only that, you're preaching this dogma to us...so that's one count of being annoying ...and in the Astrology forum, when this has nothing to do with astrology....so that's two counts of being annoying.

posted January 23, 2007 09:15 PM            

If sex can only be pure when you are trying to create a human life, does that mean sex during gestation, while a human life is growing.... is just as 'sinful' as sex without this purpose?

posted January 23, 2007 10:09 PM            

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The fact that members are allowed to get away with this on Linda Goodman.com is beyond me...

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And I have a question: just for the sake of conjecture, say I decide to marry a man I love. Since I've had a hysterectomy and cannot bear any more children, does that mean according to "God's Universal Laws" that we cannot share ourselves in physical intimacy??

Speaking only for myself, I feel resentment when someone tries to shove their "Light" and their "Laws" and their "correct path" down my throat. We each have our own path, dear. You ask us to ignore you if we do not agree with you -- could you please consider showing us the same courtesy and respect when you do not agree with us??

posted January 23, 2007 10:13 PM              

simple, logic and common sense mixed with God spirituality...

I'm done being insulted, and will no longer answer disrespectful posts!

posted January 23, 2007 10:48 PM            

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and if you have no acceptance of Linda's teachings, why are you here?

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Linda was not dogmatic and she did not judge others, EVER.

posted January 23, 2007 10:51 PM            

You've judged EVERYONE that participated in those conversations about sex and astrology and questioned their basic goodness and commitment to spirituality and everyone here has been very polite, in spite of that.

posted January 23, 2007 10:54 PM              

I respect how others decide to live they're lives even if I disagree with them and how the do so. And I expect this curtesy from others(whither I get it or not)

and if you recognise it or not you are pushing you beliefs on others.
and its insulting

posted January 23, 2007 11:15 PM              

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise....
Our two weapons are fear and surprise... and ruthless efficiency....
Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
Our four... no...
Amongst our weapons... Amongst our weaponry...
are such elements as fear, surprise...
I'll come in again.

(Exit and exeunt)

(JARRING CHORD)

(The cardinals burst in)

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms

Monty Python

you can take that as an insult if you wish.... but its just poking fun to me

posted January 24, 2007 12:42 AM              

2. I follow no laws/code except my own. And even those are not static, but continually evolving. I am answerable to no one but myself. I don't need you to remind me of YOUR 'universal' codes for the rest of us mere mortals who have not yet achieved Oneness with LOve and LIght.

3. If putting forward our point is 'insulting you', but statements like 'and if you have no acceptance of Linda's teachings, why are you here?' are perfectly ok, then I don't have anything to say to you. I am speechless. But hey, may be i just 'put those words into your mouth' ???
I was really insulted by you, yet i tried to be polite. and now u turn around and say tht its we who r insulting you!!

posted January 24, 2007 02:39 AM              

I Monty Python

posted January 24, 2007 03:07 AM              

but i did kinda feel boxed in...i mean even my mom doesn't tell me wht to believe in...lol (hah, she knows me better )

i saw monty python a long time back...it was funny but hv forgotten most of it...think i shud watch it again... :-)