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GrlyGirl20
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posted January 01, 2007 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have any women out there with a pluto moon aspect ever experienced jealously with women or "friends." Not any by you, but it seems other women are more turned off by you or same sex friends appear to keep you at a distance. How are you're dealings with men...do you find that men find you to be intense? Thanks.

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posted January 01, 2007 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it is sort of true for me(with Moon square Pluto), I have two gal pals at work, and even though it seems we are close something makes them not want to open up emotionally to me most of the time(which I value most in any association). People have always kept me at an emotional distance, even close boyfriends from the past were distant(I really hate my Moon being in my 12th house). It hurts because they think I am cold when I am just the opposite, and they get so surprised if I break down and cry. Jealously from other people used to happen more when I was younger than now. As far as men finding me intense that is a huge yes, but are intrigued by it at the same time. You are talking about having it natally right?

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posted January 01, 2007 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon conj pluto IN SCOPRIO and i have the WORST WOSRST jealousy problem. Im very possesive of both friends and my boyfriend and even though i learned to cope a bit when it comes to showing it, i feel it seriously intensely. In fact ever since I was a little kid i remember being very jealous when my friends talk to someone else or pay more attention. Its really bad im working hard on getting rid of it

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GrlyGirl20
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posted January 01, 2007 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I meant jealously from other women towards you. I have pluto square moon (pluto in scorpio in the 5th house, and moon in capricorn in the 7th) and I find that I am not jealous of others or my female friends, but it seems that I always end up where my closest female "friends" display jealous tendencies towards me. And yes I meant having it natally. And yeah I do find that men are either intrigued (if they have any pluto present) or scared.

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posted January 01, 2007 04:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have met women like that.

I just keep away. Don't want people like that around me.


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posted January 01, 2007 04:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i'm Moon Trine Pluto, so does that include me in the jealousy department?

(pisces moon, pluto scorpio) and also i'd like to add that my moon is in the 6th house, and when i'm jealous it severly affects my health, and i have this inward rage and anger that i literally can't allow myself to express unless circumstance allows.

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posted January 01, 2007 04:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
friends? well i guess i do have some sort of problem with friends albiet, my chiron in 11th house of cancer, (ruler of the moon)

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Duality
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posted January 01, 2007 04:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GrlyGirl20 a big yes! I have an opposition (Moon in Pisces, Pl in Virgo) and I seem to attract envy from girls/women. Sometimes they make rude remarks, many times it's obvious they are jealous of male attention I get and many times they betray me even after years long friendships. As for them keeping emotionally distant or not sharing - it's actually the opposite. I usually am the free of charge psychologist, lol.

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posted January 01, 2007 04:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes!

LOL.

I have 1H Pluto in Virgo opposed 7H Moon in Pisces.

I have a LOT of problems with other women feeling threatened by me or jealous of me - friends, coworkers, bosses, my boyfriends' exs, my boyfriends' mothers, my own mother...thank god I don't have any sisters. I have ot be careful about flirting with guys, lest I turn around and some woman's giving me the Evil Eye.

I have also had problems with men finding me too intense. I scare people in general, but men tend to be fascinated by me, but scared to approach. That's why I never dated in high school - I scared them all off. I had a lot of admirers but few brave enough to ask me out (and the ones who did, I said no and they were crushed - that seemed to scare the rest of them even more).

Sometimes people react very intensely to me in negative ways and I don't understand why. It seems to come out of left field.

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posted January 01, 2007 04:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm i have a question, is it true that you only attract jealousy from women when your Moon and Pluto are in hard aspects (squares, conj. oppositions), cause mine is trine, i do attract jealousy, but whats the difference in how its expressed from others through your aspects?

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posted January 01, 2007 04:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Duality! Yes! I've had more than my fair share of knife wounds to the back from female friends! Wicked, wicked people!!! I hate being betrayed. Being let down by a friend, I can understand. Friends do that sometimes. But out-right betrayal....*grrr* I have no stomach for it. And yet, I have had so many woman friends do that to me. I have trouble trusting women for this reason.

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posted January 01, 2007 04:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting Neptune. I would assume there's some difference. With me, I'm not a very jealous person, and my Gem Sun + Pisces moon makes me a little gulliable and naive at times. So I often don't understand what I do that brings this on from other women. I'm not very in tune with the vibes of other women and I easily misread them and they misread me - maybe that's the opposition at work? Crossed frequencies or something, maybe?

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Duality
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posted January 01, 2007 05:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini, a big yes to your last two posts.

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Interesting Neptune. I would assume there's some difference. With me, I'm not a very jealous person, and my Gem Sun + Pisces moon makes me a little gulliable and naive at times. So I often don't understand what I do that brings this on from other women. I'm not very in tune with the vibes of other women and I easily misread them and they misread me - maybe that's the opposition at work? Crossed frequencies or something, maybe?

I also have sun in gemini (and venus and mars and merc) with pisces moon.

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posted January 01, 2007 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh sorry i misunderstood you. Sometimes other people are jealous but I mean usually women dont like me talking to their bfs. But perhaps thats not so much me as women in general. But not so much as to constantly notice it. There was one incident that this chick outright hated me for no reason and turned out she was jealous. But that was one incident.

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posted January 01, 2007 05:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OT: Duality - wow, you have more plaents in Gem than me! I'm soooo jealous. LOL. Actually, I have Sun Merc and Venus in Gem and Mars in Aqua - and while that Aqua Mars make be one very difficult person, I wouldn't trade it for anything.

I have a ton of asteriods in Gem too, including Amor, Ceres, and Eros. Part off ortune too. My MC's also in Gem.

BTW - people can readily open up to me too. I tend to draw out deep, dark psychological stuff from people easily and without effort. There's been times I've met a complete strnger and within minutes they're pouring out their soul to me. On the other hand, it very hard for me to be truly open. There's a number of things I can be very honest about, and it makes me seem like someone who can talk about anything about myself. But it's not true. There's the "OK Personal Stuff" I'm not afraid to share, adn the "Not OK Personal Stuff" I never ever talk about, not even with my closest friends. That stuff I tend to put into meditations, poetry, songs - it's like it's all disguised behind poetic language or abstract ideas that make it so cryptic no one can see exactly what I'm talking about.

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posted January 01, 2007 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup.


You would think that it wouldn't be the case since I have moon sextile pluto. But I think it has much to do with the fact that my moon is in the 8th too. Actually my moon in the 8th could explain why women are intimidated by me too, but I knew they were jealous behind my back.....sh#t always gets back to me.

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Duality
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posted January 01, 2007 06:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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BTW - people can readily open up to me too. I tend to draw out deep, dark psychological stuff from people easily and without effort. There's been times I've met a complete strnger and within minutes they're pouring out their soul to me. On the other hand, it very hard for me to be truly open. There's a number of things I can be very honest about, and it makes me seem like someone who can talk about anything about myself. But it's not true. There's the "OK Personal Stuff" I'm not afraid to share, adn the "Not OK Personal Stuff" I never ever talk about, not even with my closest friends. That stuff I tend to put into meditations, poetry, songs - it's like it's all disguised behind poetic language or abstract ideas that make it so cryptic no one can see exactly what I'm talking about.


Hey gemini, you stole my nature, LOL! i'm exactly like that. I have a very hard time showing WEAKNESS and that includes the jealousy we mentioned earlier. I'm not very jealous but when I am, I make bloody sure noone notices it!
As for the gemini planets, they are all conjunct (a stellium that spans 2 deg) and create a T square with my moon on the one side, and PL/Ur on the other.


Question: Why does the aqua Mars make you a hard person?
One of my favorite combo is people with aqua Mercury! Those people ROCK!
BEST position for Mecury in my view! They should have made it the exaltation sign for Merc

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posted January 01, 2007 06:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon trine pluto

Women have always been a bit threatened by me.

When I went to get my cards read a couple of times, this came out in the readings.

I think it is because I get on with men so well. Not that I would ever steal another woman's man....dont go there, cos it's wrong, but even so, women have been jealous of me, around their men.

Men are a little scared of me too....as I am very intense and open and somewhat powerful.

It was tiresome in the past because I always tried to play myself down, but now I dont...I just be myself, If people dont like me, there is nothing I can do!

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posted January 01, 2007 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never noticed that some women were jealous of me, but it seems that as I have gotten older (I'm 21) I have female friends who seem close but as time goes on they end up saying or doing things that show them as being threatned of me. I also find that men automatically think that I sleep around alot or that I am really experienced. How do you guys deal with this. And have you ever dealt with men who have pluto or scorpio in their chart. How have you dealt with it?

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posted January 01, 2007 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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. I also find that men automatically think that I sleep around alot or that I am really experienced.


Same sh%t happens to me alot. They think I'm some kind of Dominatrix or something. It kind of sucks because its totally not me (way too shy) but somehow I give it off. And yes, guys are intimidated by me too....it must be a defense mechanism for me to keep them away.

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posted January 02, 2007 04:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sue
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Not that I would ever steal another woman's man....dont go there, cos it's wrong,

Yeah, but you believe (or know?) you could if you suddenly chose to do so and this is something most women can pick up quite easily.

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posted January 02, 2007 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that is the thing why a lot of women are jealous. They think we're going to steal their men. How do you guys deal with this? Also how do you deal with being precieved (especially by men) as being "very sexual" I hate that my flirty and open nature (sun/ mars in the 1st house, 7th house moon, and venus in taurus in the 11th) gets mistaken for sexual interest. Did any of you change your behavior or what?

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posted January 02, 2007 05:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aen

Yes I see what you mean.....!!

GrlyGirl

I did for years try to tone myself down....being very outgoing and open actually did me no harm, cos it probably frightened most blokes lol!!!

Now I just be who I am....if that offends, people dont have to talk to me...

I get favourable responses from men socially and in the main women too.....the ones who dont accept me, I stay away from...simple as that!!!

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posted January 02, 2007 06:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I am a guy..I was jus curious..Why is it that Moon-pluto aspects are supposed to invite jealousy?
In my case, I've noticed that guys are not very comfortable when I speak to their gfs..
I have moon trine pluto..besides venus sextile pluto, pluto opp. asc and pluto sq. Midheaven? (Mars in scorp as well )
not sure it's because of moon-pluto trine

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posted January 02, 2007 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fluke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Weird, I have pluto conj. moon and have never been really comfortable with women in general and female friends. I'm now 23 years old, and in those years I have had just two female friends! Real friends, I mean. I get along fine with guys though, as do those two other girls.
Guys either seem to think that I'm this whip-swinging dominatrix in bed (When in fact, I'm just the opposite ) and be either intimidated by me or secretly in love with me, and the more intense guys usually hits on me, maybe because they feel I can handle them and not be afraid of them..? I don't know, This is just the things I have noticed

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