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carlfloydfan
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posted May 30, 2007 12:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yah, how funny that I am drinking as I write this.

But, are there past threads, that have info that may point towards aspects that may indicate that a person could have trouble with drinking?

I am not quite there yet. Once or twice a week for a long time..but suddenly it is hitting.. it has been three days in a row..and today, I needed it, for the 4th day, despite money being pretty tight and frankly I do not mind to much.

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libraschoice7
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posted May 30, 2007 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in 6th, I get drunk wayyyyy to easy, very sensitive to alcohol.

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carlfloydfan
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posted May 30, 2007 12:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mmm...I have neptune in 12th.

There was a point in my life where I had half a bottle of 151. shots of that.

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pearlized
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posted May 30, 2007 12:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus opposition Neptune or square. Heavy alcohol abuse and sex abuse too.

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posted May 30, 2007 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have neptune opposition venus... I get drunk pretty easily.. I don't drink to often though.. maybe once a month. When I was younger I use to drink pretty often. I guess I got it out of my system. I do have to watch that I don't drink when things are stressful.

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libraschoice7
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posted May 30, 2007 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee thats nice to know, because I also have Venus square Neptune...

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carlfloydfan
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posted May 30, 2007 12:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no negative aspects between neptune and venus.

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pearlized
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posted May 30, 2007 01:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.astrodatabank.com/AS/ASVenusNeptune.htm

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alanabelle86
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posted May 30, 2007 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh. My boyfriend cannot turn down alcohol. It is impossible for him.

He only drinks hard liquor. He drinks 151 and grain alcohol like water. That doesn't mean he handles it well. He's horrible. And he's such an annoying drunk too. He's not addicted or anything but I think he enjoys drinking a little too much.

He's got the Sun conjunct Neptune, Neptune conjunct IC (exact), Mars/Pluto (conjunction = extreme actions) sextile Neptune, a Neptune singleton in Capricorn, square the AC.

I think drinking makes him feel more comfortable in his own skin. He believes he's invincible in reality, but an snowboarding accident has humbled him (Once a star athlete, can't play anything anymore). So when he drinks, he can't feel the physical pain and thinks he's "Mr. Awesome" again.

Moon conjunct Jupiter in the 5th makes him party hard . Venus sextile Jupiter only amplifies his indulgent streak plus Jupiter (excess) square Pluto (extremes) sure does NOT help anything

On top of having 5 planets in fire, they're all in Sagittarius he goes overboard...often. A little too often for my tastes. He needs to learn some limits...Hmph


Sorry, soft spot, heh.

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lalalinda
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posted May 30, 2007 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prone to alcoholism or drug addiction
Moon in a water sign
in the 12th house
or in hard aspect to Neptune.

and of course the whole chart must be taken into consideration as this can be modified.

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aquaspryt69
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posted May 30, 2007 09:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! My 1000th post and the subject is alcoholism.

Two yrs sobriety here (5/22) and I have none of the aspects anyone has mentioned here except my moon in water sign Pisces.

I only like and drink the hard stuff.

alanabelle, sorry but he's a typical alcoholic. Go to any AA or Al-anon. You'll hear those very same "symptoms" mentioned many times.

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posted May 30, 2007 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I drink like a fish. I get drunk probably 3 nights a week. I drink during the day on the weekends. Brunch, happy hour, whatever!

I drink jack on the rocks. Southern comfort. Vodka. Tequila. Jameson. Anything really hard, that burns... I love the burn. I love red wine, the loopy feeling...

I cry when I'm drunk. I blackout. I get hangovers.

I need alcohol... literally. I need it to relax me, calm me down.

I can identify with whoever's boyfriend who needs it to feel like "Mr. Awesome". I'm in a place where I don't ever feel comfortable in my own skin... I'm a nice girl, smart, and I'm pretty, but I am so f*cking shy and self conscious. When I get in social situations I need something to take the edge off. I'm pretty and shy, so people's first impression is to automatically think I'm a ***** . I feel like I have to be go overboard to be super nice and social, I drink to make myself chatty. Guys make me really uncomfortable, when they stare at me or flirt with me... so I drink to relax. It's so unbelievably psychological, but I can't help it.

I know my family has a history of alcoholism... so I usually just pin it on that, but it'd be interesting to see if there is a correlation between signs and drinking.


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posted May 30, 2007 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always had a problem with addiction.. which includes drinking..
For me, It's an escape from it all... numb myself up and maybe it will go away...
Now I "know" this isn't going to happen deep inside... but on the surface it works for the moment.. and becomes a cycle...
I tend to drink in waves...
I believe it is my Mars/Neptune/MC conjunction in Scorpio.

My father is an alcoholic.. although, he does not drink anymore.. hasn't for some 15-20 years...
He is a Libra/ Gemini Moon/ Libra ASC
His aspects:

Sun Trine Moon 1°31
Sun Conjunction Mars 2°07
Sun Trine Saturn 6°44
Sun Trine Uranus 1°20
Sun Conjunction Neptune 5°55
Sun Sextile Pluto 1°08
Moon Trine Mars 3°39
Moon Conjunction Uranus 0°11
Moon Trine Neptune 4°24
Moon Sextile Pluto 2°40
Mercury Square Jupiter 3°42
Mercury Conjunction Ascendant 3°02
Venus Sextile Jupiter 1°14
Mars Trine Saturn 4°37
Mars Trine Uranus 3°27
Mars Sextile Pluto 0°59
Saturn Sextile Pluto 5°36
Uranus Trine Neptune 4°35
Uranus Sextile Pluto 2°29
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).


I believe it runs in the family, too.


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alanabelle86
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posted May 30, 2007 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess but he drinks in spurts..like twice a month. But they're like...really heavy drinking sessions. He's a frat boy, what can I say?


He can prob become one very easily. He was developing habits for a while, I'm glad I made him choose between me and the alcohol a few years back. Ever since then it's been like I said...twice a month or less.

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aqua inferno
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posted May 30, 2007 03:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune is gooooood in the 12th house

My Neptune is not kind to me...it squares Mars and Venus, but I don't drink much. I did have issues with substance abuse tho..

But it's ironic that the planet that almost destroyed me, is now helping me heal. I'm more spiritual and happier/more peaceful - not that I'm a Buddha! I guess Neptune has two sides.

Also I'm very lucky, my life was never messed up by drugs. I still have my friends, family, I'm well educated and I have a great job. Maybe she took it easy on me since I'm one of her own

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libraschoice7
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posted May 30, 2007 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lalalinda, I have Moon in Cancer in 12th house, Venus square Neptune, Neptune in 6th...and when I drink I don't have a stop button, so I try not to drink because I scare people. Too much excess in that area.

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Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
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katipo
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posted May 31, 2007 12:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm an alcoholic, I drink maybe once or twice a month, however I binge drink, I can't have 2 drinks, I must have 22. I'm also an addict, I'm easily addicted to anything, people, drugs, gambling etc, etc. I don't gamble as I know myself too well, I take absolutely no drugs, ok ok almost absolutely no drugs, I smoke cigarettes, and I'm addicted to my computer, lindaland, and my lover, gardening and too many more things to name.....

I have Venus opposite Neptune, a Pisces Moon, and I'm an adult child of alcoholic addicts. I have an email somewhere from William which pointed to midpoints (in my case) as highlighting (possibly) problems with addiction, must search that out, and take another look at it

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kate_julia
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posted May 31, 2007 02:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone i have known to have a chronic dope addiction and alcoholism had:
*Neptune(sag) in the 3rd Square Venus(pisces) in the 6th.
*Neptune(3) sq. Moon in 12th(virgo).
*Moon(virgo) closely opposite mercury(pisces).
*Pluto(1st) opposite Sun(7th) (closely)
*Saturn in 12th.

In short version it was a reality vs dreamland predicament.
I think the signs of Pisces and Virgo are both signs to be prone to excessive drinking drug abuse more than others due to the reality-illusion axis.

It depends on the reasons why a person is an alcoholic when looking for prominent aspects. A Moony or Cancerian alcoholic might induldge in a drink because it makes him/her feel more confident and is able to express their deep feelings more, Whereas a MArtian or Aries (lots of mars energy in chart) like character might drink more because of the need to live life to max and if alcohol increases every feeling that a person feels (joy, hope, sorrow etc) then the Arien really feels ALive...
HArd to explain but hopefully yall get my drift.

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Kay Libra
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posted May 31, 2007 09:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am friends with a guy who is an alcoholic. He has Moon in Scorpio 1st, Venus conjunct Neptune in Scorpio. I think planets in water can contribute to it. Also he comes from a long line of alcoholics. He told me once that he was a social drinker. I told him clearly you're an alcoholic because you drink everyday! Whenever someone doesn't need a function to attend, but can drink just for no reason unless you call escapism a reason, than they have a problem. Alcoholism also runs in my mom's side of the family. I drink occasionally. If I'm out to dinner I may have a glass of wine or if I'm going out with girlfriends I'll have 2-3 drinks. As of now I don't go out anymore so I rarely drink at all.

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let ther b light
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posted May 31, 2007 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey
my dad is quite addicted to his drinks....6 days a week...whiskey...we(my family) have had major fights on this issue...with great difficulty we've made him cut down...i'm not sure what in his chart contributes to his addiction..so if someone can throw some light on that i'd really appreciate it ...these are his placements..

sun-19 pis 23'9"
moon-19 gem 35'14"
mercury- 24 puis 40'14"r
venus- 27 aqua 28'32"
mars- 24 libra 53'23"r
jupiter- 0 ari 26'37"
saturn- 18 vir 21'47"r
uranus- 16 gem 48'43"
nepyune- 27 vir 22'13"r
pluto- 26 can 5'12"r
true node- 6 aqua 29'42"d
chiron- 19 sag 4'9"

AC-22 can 18'53"
2nd house- 19 leo 16'
3rd house- 19 virgo 30'
MC- 21 ari 30'56"
11th house- 23 tau 0'
12th house- 23 gemini 7'
IC- 21 libra
DC-22 capri

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bluegreyeyes
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posted May 31, 2007 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always wondered if maybe I have alcoholism... but I don't NEED it everyday. If i'm sitting at home, I don't *need* to drink. But, if I'm going out with a bunch of people, or if I know I'll be in a social situation (bar, wedding, bbq, etc) then I usually need a drink to relax me. Only when I was REALLY depressed would I drink by myself to "escape" my own thoughts. Do my placements indicate any "addiction" or "alcoholism" mentality.....?


Sun Aquarius 5°03'35 in house 11 direct
Moon Gemini 18°28'20 in house 3 direct
Mercury Capricorn 16°44'21 in house 10 retrograde
Venus Aquarius 24°51'37 in house 12 direct
Mars Pisces 6°19'39 in house 12 direct
Jupiter Sagittarius 5°34'45 in house 8 direct
Saturn Scorpio 4°09'25 in house 7 direct
Uranus Sagittarius 8°06'27 end of house 8 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 28°06'15 end of house 9 direct
Pluto Libra 29°30'58 in house 7 direct
True Node Cancer 3°58'10 in house 4 direct

2nd House Taurus 12°20'29
3rd House Gemini 9°04'24
Imum Coeli Cancer 0°35'04
5th House Cancer 22°11'31
6th House Leo 19°16'20
Descendant Libra 1°06'35
8th House Scorpio 12°20'29
9th House Sagittarius 9°04'24
Medium Coeli Capricorn 0°35'04
11th House Capricorn 22°11'31
12th House Aquarius 19°16'20

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aquaspryt69
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posted June 02, 2007 09:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't have to drink everyday or every week to be an alcoholic.

One guy I know would only drink in the middle of the night when he couldn't sleep. It started occurring maybe once a week until, suddenly, he realized he couldn't get to sleep if he didn't take a few drinks.

Others talk of being "sophisticated" because they drank wine.They would never be low life bar flies. Whatever! Talk about snob complex!!

With me, I drank maybe once every 3 months and when I did it was serious business. No half measures here. I was on a mission to get s**t faced drunk. I'd get in knock down, drag out fights, have blackouts and woke up in jail I don't know how many times.

For years I drank with and around others. Serious problems began when I became a closet drinker. Those in AA get wide, serious eyes when they talk about recluses and closet drinkers. I guess there's a strong link with suicide. Though I didn't have thoughts of suicide, I do know I was seriously depressed at those times and very, very lonely.

Some say anyone who drinks even one time is an alcoholic. I think that's a bunch of crap. It's not about how many drinks you have or how often. IMO it's about WHY you drink.
Do you drink to escape, or dull your feelings and senses? Do you drink because you think you're more fun or interesting once you get alcohol in you? Do you find yourself constantly thinking and planning out your next drink? Do you have hiding places where you stash your bottles all over your house that you think no one else knows about? If yes, then you may be an alcoholic.

Alcoholism is a serious addiction and, for some, very hard to give up. I wasted 20 yrs numbing myself to life and all its wonderful blessings. Never again!!!

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posted June 04, 2007 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For years I drank with and around others. Serious problems began when I became a closet drinker. Those in AA get wide, serious eyes when they talk about recluses and closet drinkers. I guess there's a strong link with suicide. Though I didn't have thoughts of suicide, I do know I was seriously depressed at those times and very, very lonely. >>>>>

What an enlightening post.

I think that with "binge drinking" on the rise (at least in the U.S.), it's so hard to really decipher what is and isn't alcoholism.

And what's worse, is that "rehab" and "AA" have become almost trendy because of celebrities. Rehab is now a way to get more publicity and media attention... a way to be "popular" in Hollywood.

I have a family member who hides beer cans, and bottles of liquor in his trunk of his car, under his bed, in his closet, everywhere. He is on a lot of medication, probably can't hold a beer or two without getting very drunk. It's sad, because while I don't think he drinks a large quantity of alcohol(no vodka, or whiskey... just beer & baileys...), it's obviously a very dark thing for him. Always has been. It's a lonely disease, I feel terrible for those who are touched by it, and worse for those who actually experience it.

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posted June 05, 2007 05:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to drink often and a lot, especially for someone my size and age. I've eased on it now, but whenever things get stressful, I always need that drink or maybe 2 drinks. After I had my appendix removed, I was hooked on painkillers for awhile and even now, when I've had a bad day or when things are going tough, I tend to rely on pills to take the pain away.
I have sun opposition neptune, moon sextile neptune with neptune being in my 7th house.

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posted February 02, 2008 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kfn327     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a book that reads that adverse aspects between Mars and Neptune include the following: "Prone toward negative escapism in alcohol. Native may be oversensitive; wastes energies in hopeless causes."

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