posted October 19, 2008 05:22 PM         

I don't even bother trying. Besides, I've seen people trying to be funny and a bad joke is just not a very nice thing to do to people. So, I'd like to know what makes people to be funny astrologically and what makes people to NOT be so funny.

posted October 19, 2008 06:46 PM         

My 3rd house has got Mars in it, at the apex of a horrible T-Square with Scorpio Ascendant on one side, and Mercury/Venus in Taurus on the other. I've been known to deliver a wisecrack or too, but if you asked me to tell a joke I would struggle to remember one.

I like humour with word-play but that's a cultural thing as much as anything. I hate cruel humour and passionately dislike jokes that ridicule disablities, for example. Aqua Mars. The Taurus side hates being imitated, O.K if it is funny and picks up on a personal characteristic in a witty way, but if it is to ridicule my (Midlands) accent it might unleash the old Taurus temper.

People with a Gemini Mercury in a strong aspect can be quite sharp and witty. But sometimes they can stray into a little bit of the humour that can get cruel unintentionally or otherwise. One example I know has Sun rising in Gemini, and Mercury Gemini in the first house. He was funny, but underneath I think he despised most people and so there was something unpleasant in his humour. I can't remember the rest of the chart.

posted October 19, 2008 07:20 PM         

My Jupiter who's supposed to be funny is in 1st but it did nothing for my sense of humour. Jupiter is conj my Asc and trines my Venus/Pof in 11th, and sextiles my BML/SN conjunction in 3rd. Maybe I just look funny.

posted October 19, 2008 07:40 PM         

Humour itself is a function of fire but in particular the element of Sagittarius, ruler Jupiter. Jupiter is about expansion, optimism and from that it can be implied that laughter or happiness is too. Leo is about entertainment and good times, playing up and acting. I'd say the sign that Jupiter and Sun is in may colour the type of humour that one likes.

As Bluey pointed out, wit is very much a Gemini/Mercurial thing but I hear that Aquarians are also witty, probably because Uranus is the higher octave of Mercury. Timing has a lot to do with humour, whether it is quick as in witty or the correct timing, which I think might be Saturn.

Third house would indicate the way we communicate, first house is essentially us, 5th house is entertainment, 9th house is thinking or deeper thought.

For myself, I have Jupiter conj my ASC. ASC is in Aries, so Jupiter is in a fellow fire sign and it feels happy enough there. My 3rd house is ruled by Gemini and I have my Mars in the 3rd. The depositor of my Mars and 3rd, Mercury, is in Aquarius and it is conj my Sun which is the ruler of my 5th. My Sun and Mercury are both opposed to Saturn and square Uranus. Sometimes my timing can be off when it comes to joking or it is too wierd or even too witty (ie abstract) for people to comprehend. Venus is in 9th and in Sag so I value humour and I think humourously but my delivery, the way I communicate humour is essentially dictated by Mars and Gemini. On a good day, I'm quick and funny. On a bad day, I'm cutting or my timing is poor or I'm just come out looking odd.

So in terms of poor humour maybe look to some aspect afflicting rulers of 3rd, 9th, 1st, 5th. Look to see what is in these houses. Look to see if there is any afflictions to these planets. Look for strong fire placements, particularly things in Leo and Sag. Look to Saturn. Maybe Saturn might invest in humour and add to humour if it is in Sag for instance. However, one thing I have noticed from people that I know (and friends) is that Jupiter in Gemini makes for conservative people that do not humour others.

posted October 19, 2008 09:49 PM         

swirl-skirt- you're too kind. Seriously. I know your words are coming from a good place. I won't change your mind though. I'll just put you in my list of people who find me funny. The list is not very long. You're the only one on it.

Kick It- yes, your mind does make regular visits to the gutter, I've noticed. That's why I like your mind. It's slightly twisted if it's not already twisted all the way.

posted October 19, 2008 10:09 PM         

LMAO on that one. You've got your dry Virgo wit on your side there sis!

posted October 19, 2008 10:12 PM         

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So, I'd like to know what makes people to be funny astrologically and what makes people to NOT be so funny.

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Personally, I find humor to be subjective. I wonder if astrological aspects can tell us what type of humor a person enjoys???

I'm considered funny by the people around me and I also have Jupiter in Sadge in the first. Jupiter is also my chart ruler so that might have something to do with it.

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Humour itself is a function of fire

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I do have mostly fire in my chart.

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As Bluey pointed out, wit is very much a Gemini/Mercurial thing but I hear that Aquarians are also witty, probably because Uranus is the higher octave of Mercury.

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That might make sense too, because even though I don't have any thing in my 3rd house, I do have Aquarius intercepted in my 3rd. Also, Uranus conjuncts my Jupiter...

However, that being said, because I'm a Virgo, a lot of people don't get my quick subtle sense of humor. The people who do think I'm hilarious, but you have to be fairly intelligent and quick to get it. I'm also good with a well placed comeback.

I have a dirty sense of humor, but usually only with my Aries Sun and fellow Aries Moon girl friends who are into that kind of thing. We can be dirtier than most guys when we get together.

posted October 19, 2008 11:34 PM         

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23- show off. I'm jealous in case you think I'm happy for your airport whisperer stunts. I'm writing some funny material in my spare time and honestly, I dare not quit my day job.

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See, that was funny!

I think it depends on the signs as to how you deliver. I suspect the location and sign of Jupiter and aspects to it colour the sense of humour you like. For example, I have Jupiter in Aries and I find people falling over very funny. You have Jupiter and Uranus off memory in the first house in Sco, so your humour might be a bit more subtle and complex and darker than mine. Also as Kick It said, dry humour would aptly describe Saturn in the 3rd. Again, Saturn is a slower humour, you might have impeccable humour.

It doesn't mean that you are less funny than me in reality. I might be perceived as being more funny because fire is spontaneous and extrovert and just plain noticeable. Likewise air. Your humour might be more complex than mine and maybe operate on more levels. I think you have to be funny, every person with Jup in 1st is funny. Bluey has Jup in 1st, she's a crackpot. And you can be as well, other people have said so as well.

Do you think maybe with Saturn in the 3rd, you are shy to communicate, do you think that's what it is?

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The people who do think I'm hilarious, but you have to be fairly intelligent and quick to get it. I'm also good with a well placed comeback.

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posted October 20, 2008 12:26 AM         

Also I was thinking immediacy of the humour is important. The impact of humour from fire and air is immediate, humour is simple and direct. Reaction is immediate. Earth and water may be much more slower to get and may take more time to be more funny to the recipient. Of course, synastry helps as well. Someone with good synastry to your Jupiter and other important planets is going to find you more funny.

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An example of immediate reaction and possible sense of humour. This happened on another thread. Two jokes that I did in roughly consecutive posts for you to compare.

Question - which one do you find more funny? I'd be interested in people's responses. What is your astrology like?

Example 1:

Me posting this picture continuously to a "fanciful" list of demands by another knowflake.
Impact: caused laughs.

Example 2:

Me taking someone's picture of Jude Law and then adding commentary and a reply response/picture.
Impact: nothing.

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"I wonder where the edge is?"

"Whaaat?! He doesn't know?!"

Example 1 was run of the mill for me, not much thought put into. I thought Example 2 was much more style of humour, I liked how I was able to construct a situation of matching words to a picture and as a reply to a picture of Jude that involved absurdity and condescension (the arrogance of my Mars in Gemini is coming out). I though it was clever but everyone liked Example 1. Example 1 is more immediate and it got the laughs.

Anyway. that's enough from me, I feel like I'm hogging this post.

posted October 20, 2008 12:35 AM         

I think what's so funny about it to me is you surprise with the absurd. You think the joke is over because Jude's thought alone was a joke. But then you throw in this unexpected, ridiculous picture that responds to Jude. Plus it's ironic because JT looks look an idiot in his pic, and yet he's the one who knows the answer and thinks that Jude, the one who looks contemplative and thoughtful, is the idiot. But it's doubly ironic b/c if JT believes there is an edge, then he is more dumb than Jude but doesn't realize it.

posted October 20, 2008 12:56 AM         

Sun in Gemini (in 11th house);

Mercury in Gemini (in 12th house), squaring:
-Jupiter and Saturn which are both in Libra (loosely conjunct), in 3rd house
-Moon in Pisces, in 8th house

posted October 20, 2008 12:58 AM         

Maybe it was the heat of the moment that made the first one funny. Example 1 was the first in a series of picture replies. The Jude one came a bit afterwards.

I was thinking that for humour to be understood there has to be synastry that involves Jupiter (humour and maybe the 9th - the thinking) and Mercury (reasoning, the ability to communicate, hence importance of house 3 and delivery).

In the jokes that I put up, my Mercury in Aqu (conj Sun and both are square Ura) thought what to be put up. I have a quintile between Jupiter and sesquiquadrate with Mars in Gemini. Maybe my Mercury was not being aspected by others, maybe it was my Jupiter that was failed to be aspected.

Jane - I think you got the meaning . My goal in the joke was to ridicule JT, so I put him in an absurd and condescending role - such that his stupidity condescends wrongly the lack of intelligence of Jude. EDIT - yes, irony!