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pidaua
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posted May 03, 2004 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe it is Pluto's retrograding approach to my natal Venus...Maybe it is Venus in Gemini...sending those waves to my natal Sun / Venus...and sitting, quietly in her little seductive way, in my 9th house...whatever the case - I have a date tonight.


With a Taurus Sun / Taurus rising - He has an Singleton..Jupiter in Aries and I am sure it is sending expansive beams of intrigue to my already electric Singleton Uranus in Libra...

It has been a LONG time, since the days when Mr. Leo and I would spend hours and hours on the phone. This guy, we were introduced by a mutual friend..he is in the Army - K9 handler...ahh, the animal connection - licenced Massage / accupressure therapist, spiritual, into astrology....I am trying not to bust at the seams. We haven't met physically - He did e-mail me a ton of pics after we talked the first night, which was for 7 hours. Everytime we are on the phone..time slips by, it is so very odd.

He has his Moon in Virgo (that could be a problem..) Mercury in Gemini, Venus in Cancer, Mars in Pisces...(we have some cool conjunction, my moon his jupiter, my jupiter his Uranus) He is also 5.5 years younger than me..LOL..yummy.

Sorry..well, so tonight will be our first date. I have butterflies that won't simmer down...my tummy keeps flipping and flipping...like it did right before I met Mr. Leo.

I should also mention - he is the 4th Taurus rising in a row that I have met or had deep conversations with. One I married, another I loved -one was too unsettling and now there is this guy...My Sun, once again, falls into the mans 8th house, while my Venus falls into his 7th. Both of our moons fall into the others 12th house. So strange - no wonder I am weirding out


I just had to share this.

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posted May 03, 2004 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Total Pieces     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like it will be a wonderful night. Have a great time...be sure to wear Grandma undies (think Bridgette )

Be Safe,

Amber

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pidaua
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posted May 03, 2004 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
LOL...Granny Panties..LOL..that is too funny. No worries though..I am way to picky to sleep with someone that fast - 8th house Saturn is very...very in control of that aspect

You totally cracked me up

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posted May 03, 2004 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gloomy sag     Edit/Delete Message
Beautiful! You go girl!

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posted May 03, 2004 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, good luck. I was wondering what happened to Mr. Leo, we didn't hear about him for the longest time. Mercury in Gemini sounds fun, and a Jupiter singleton means tons of confidence, and get go. Sexy.

Sounds like he's the masculine type even with the Venus in Cancer, and that's a good thing. Every woman needs to be treated once in a while. Just let him do the driving!

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posted May 03, 2004 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Natasha,

Thank you for the encouragement. Mr. Leo and I broke up soon after Valentine's Day. He was laid off right before that time and didn't take it well, even though he knew it was coming for the longest time. Hell, I helped keep him with the company almost a year longer was expected as they had tried to lay him off in October 2002. At any rate, there comes a time when the baggage is too much for anyone person to carry and I had come to that point. It seemed that he needed one crisis after another to keep motivated and I didn't want to have keep going through the rollar coaster. We are still friends, but I wanted to get out of that relationship and into the world of dating. (There is a post in FFA where I kind of talked about the issue).

So, meeting Mr. Taurus - well being introduced and having our first face to face meeting, is a surprise and is just so weird. We do have a few, okay, more than a few stressful aspects. My Moon in Aries is not digging his Venus / Saturn in Cancer. Not to mention I have Mercury in Capricorn opposing those Cancer planets.

Well see how things progress , but I do find some similarities with the Taurus male and Leo males. Mostly, they seem to be somewhat persistant. All the literature I have read indicates when they do want someone, they make their intentions known - that he has - not in a sexually aggressive way - although I can tell that he is highly sexed.

He is stationed in Arizona (he lived out here for years and we were set up to go out on Saturday - but he had some kind of Military ID card issue - like he lost it..LOL). He was supposed to drive to Arizona today from North Carolina (where he is from originally) but since we didn't get that date on Saturday, he changed his plans, is on his way up here and we'll be going out to dinner. It was cute when he said "If you like me in person, and we get along as well as we do on the phone, I'd like to put off leaving another day so we can go out tomorrow night too.".

It also just so happens that he isn't far from where my dad lives in AZ, so he may come out when I am visiting next month - and again in Las Vegas.

So, I have a question. Why is it he is already thinking like one month, two months...etc.. in the future? Is this normal for a Taurus dude when they meet someone they have a lot in common with? LOL

I should add..that knowing how fickle I am, I could be loving this excitement right now, only to find that I am soooo not attracted to him in person. I worry about that...bad Venus in Sag...bad...LOL Not to mention my old Moon opposed Uranus is just freaking me out. LOL

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posted May 04, 2004 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
There's nothing wrong with flirting with a Taurus, we do not take it that seriously if someone doesn't find us attractive. We are too ego centric I think for it to make a dent. If you say you want to stay friends we will accept that. One thing about Taurean men is that they have pretty solid egos.

I have had Taurus men friends for years that I have told over and over again, at certain points, we are just friends. They are organized and bring up the possibility once in a while but they are more than okay with being friends. And they do not need a crisis to get motivated.

When he said into the future..that's just his way of getting motivated, Taureans have to see a future to get themselves motivated towards something, and he probably was talking to himself as much as you about it. Plus he wanted you to feel comfortable, he imagines you are shy maybe? Since he doesn't know you that well yet.

It can be hard to understand why a Taurus man wants to be future oriented, but they like to imagine they are needed and wanted, the way a tree is necessary to lean on in the summer. It makes him feel strong and fulfilled. A Taurus man wants to fulfill your wants and dreams. That is his biggest turn on.

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posted May 04, 2004 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Think Bono "You give, and give, and give yourself away" That is what Taurus likes to do. The other thing that really makes Taurus men happy is a tease. They like a Bad Kitty;> Sorry but it's true.

I just got a T-Shirt that says
"Lost, Very Bad Kitty, Answers to NO ONE, as mean as she looks, wanted in four states"

I have to say my dream date would be a tease, a really bad kitty. (in school a girl that put out was good kitty) I was a tease-bad kitty:>

Hope this makes sense,

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posted May 06, 2004 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmmm, well, let's just say that I am very impressed by the Taurus.

Sorry it has been so long....well, since Monday - but I have spent EVERYDAY with him.

He picked me up for dinner Monday night and I was pleasantly surprized..he was even better looking than I imagined, even better looking that the pictures. (I am going to have to thank my friend for the setup). He was impressed - gave me a huge hug and it just felt like I had known him forever. We went to dinner I a LOVED that he was actually organized and open doors, was very attentive.

Dinner went exceptionally well, probably the best date that I have ever had. He is also into taoism, reads up on metaphysical studies, is a military police officer in the Army - K9 unit, reads poetry, loves art...writes poetry...as he already did for me..LOL...more than that. We have so much in common that is freaked us both out. Right down to we loved Tigger the Tiger as kids because he was always so happy and bouncy. So saying good night to him was hard - but I was looking forward to having a date the next night...

Then I called in sick - Which I never do unless I am extremely sick - but I just wanted to spend more time with him. He had made a slight remark the night before that he had really wished we could spend the whole next day together but would run errands until dinner. So, me taking the day off really impressed him and he spoiled me rotten.

I have never really dug the whole public display of affection, but I enjoyed it with him - meaning the hand holding, having his arm around me. I even found myself kind of cuddling up to him while we sat in the theatre. He is so open (Could be his First house Sun and 5th house moon) he seems to have a lot of fire in him, even for being a Taurus - not that they are all sedate or anything.

After the movie we shopped around, played video games (which we both love and even when we shopped we both would oooo and ahhhh about the same things).

I felt like we could talk about anything and he made no attempt to hide his feelings for me. He didn't want to leave and I didn't want him to leave. We just had such an easy time talking about everything. He even changed his travel schedule to stay another day so we could spend more time. Not even batting an eye at having to stay at the hotel - but let me tell you...that man can really kiss and snuggle..and just make me melt.

We read Linda Goodman's Sun signs to each other and he loved the Sag part - even the Love Signs part about the Taurus man / Sag woman together.

So..I called in sick yesterday too. We went on base here at Fort Meade and he took me on a tour - then we went to downtown Annapolis had lunch, shopped and ate ice cream on the dock like two kids. He had already been dropping little hints about how much he liked me and these little sweet things like "I have met my future wife"..but I didn't really take them seriously, not until he pulled me too him on the dock - perfect scene, breeze blowing, warm day, ice cream breath..and he said "I have never met a woman like you, someone that just touches my soul and makes me want to tell you everything I know, everything about me...I am falling in love with you and please don't think I am crazy"...then he kissed me..ahhh.....I laughed and said "You hardly even know me.." but I just felt like...well, like he did know me and everything else just seemed to disappear.

We have this great way about each other, the way we walk and talk to each other - I mean, people turned to look at us and smiled..he is extremely good looking and very well built..like a damn Bull

We went into the "mystical shop" read over some books, bought incense and these really cool candles. Then we went back to my place and he made Asiago cheese wrapped in proscuitto dipped in olive oil and I made homemade pico de gallo, chorizo and eggs and beans. It was heaven and he loved the whole cooking thing - I didn't even mind him being in my Kitchen.

He left this morning - already called me twice but the best thing was...last night he had a little bag of presents with a card. He said everything in this bag reflects something we have either done together or was mentioned by you or I. He pulled out this cute Tigger candy - because we both love tigger, test tube sour candy - because I am his little biochemist (his words), the Hulk - because that is how he looks when he flexes, Wolverine pez dispenser - because I told him that my first crush was on Wolverine in the comic books when I was a kid ...and other little surprizes. He also gave me the most beautiful card - that incorporated gazing at the stars along with our meeting being destiny in the stars...he commented on how much he loved the feel of my touch, when I would put my hand on his back as we walked, or just hold his hands - and of course..the hugs..kisses..mmmmm, yummy. Then he gave me another card this morning..and told me "While you cooked, I hid some little things for you to find..you will love them".

We have plans for June and August for sure - when I come out to AZ to visit my family and then on to Las Vegas for June - he will meet my family Vegas then we'll drive back out to the Tuscon area where he will be living. He'll be able to make frequent trips to Idaho since I'll be near one of the Army bases. Heck according to him - we will be getting married - he said he already knew the ring he wanted for me and went on to describe it..Now I am not a push over, nor am I little swoony girl..but he made me swoon. I loved that he was even keeled, no hint of these stupid games and he did come out and tell me the things that had hurt him or could turn him from someone - so it was great that we could share that.

Ugh..this is so long, but I just am exploding from the seams...

Also, I didn't want to seem like I disappeared.

And yes.. I am bad kitty by nature I'd like to keep this Bull in my life

Now I know how Proxieme felt when she met her Army dude and we know how wonderful that turned out- hee hee

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posted May 06, 2004 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
He really sounds like he's got fire!

Just what you needed. A fiery lovey dovey type, built like a Bull. I am partial to Saggies too, they are always up for adventure and Bulls need that in their lives. Let's hope he can stay lovey dovey for a long time,

Natasha
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posted May 06, 2004 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Natasha,

It's so cool- because I read him what you wrote about the tendancy to be future oriented in order to get motivated. He laughed and said "She is so very right - I can tend to get into a rut so being future oriented helps me stay out of that rut and gets me to where I need to be".

I laughed too and said "Well, that is great because I am usually too motivated about the future and I tend to not be grounded enough, so you can help keep me on Earth and I can keep you on your toes."

I thought he only had one planet in Fire - he as Jupiter in Aries, but also has Neptune in Sagittarius in his seventh house. It forms a tight conjunction with my Saggie Venus.

I really appreciated your words Natasha. Thank you so much for your insight.

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posted May 06, 2004 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Total Pieces     Edit/Delete Message
Wooo!!!! Hooo!!!!

This sounds very promising!!! What a nice date. Yeah!!!! For playing Hookie!!! (I'm all for taking off work for important things like...liefe )

Best Wishes!!!!

I hope you guys can continue on this path and have an oporunity to take it to the next level!!!!

Love,
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posted May 06, 2004 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
...still sad about Mr. Leo, but that's just because you shared so much about him, and I almost felt like I knew him. My mom was just as sad about me leaving the Virgo, but she recovered too. I'm happy for you, Pid. But, a word of warning...this part is ALWAYS wonderful, in fact some people never move past this stage, they just always expect it to feel like the 'falling in love' stage, and as soon as it simmers down to a low boil, they go "well, this is boring. You've changed. I'm outa here." I don't want to be a wet blanket, but I DO want to see you happy. I know you sound happy now, but I want you to be happy always, and not bummed out a year from now because it's not like this anymore. But, with his Neptune conjuncting your Venus. Well....it's definately a beautiful aspect, but a tricky one too. Makes it hard to see straight.

Geez, just ignore me. Such a Saturn trine Venus bumhead I am. Carry on with your cloud walking.

It's sooo lovely.

PS. Sounds like you two have some amazing synastry going on. Maybe this is your future husband, and father of your kid(s)!!

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posted May 06, 2004 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Amber,

Thank you so your encouragement. I appreciate it.


Lioneye,

Yes, I know what you mean. I am always skeptical about this phase - but historically I have always ruled with my head and not my heart. I always planned everything out to the point where I wouldn't let myself get to close or fall at all.

I do feel bad about Mr. Leo, but I cannot change his ways. He just doesn't want to make an effort - but he just wants to talk like we are a couple. What was hard to deal with was it seemed that on one had he wanted me in Southern Idaho and then on the other hand he could care less. He was in love with the idea of me, but once we were together - he would squander the time. Too many games, games that I didn't even touch on here. There is a part in Love Signs about the Leo / Sag relationship. He and I seemed to always be stuck in that viscious cycle of the "Leo making his Sag do his bidding like a scullery maid or face his icy disposition" Well, then I would do that same thing back to him. We wasted so much time on that game - but then he would love me intensely after we were physically apart. It was like a sick game of "I love you - I can't stand you". The thing that bothered me the most was that the Leo was CHEAP. He hated to buy gifts or pay for anything. Only when he felt it was necessary did he open his wallet. Now, I don't know if it has something to do with his Taurus rising or Saturn in the 12th conjuncting his ascendant, but it was getting damn old. So between that and the fact that he started to drink so much whiskey that should he be suddenly taken from this world, they wouldn't need to embalm him - I just couldn't deal with it. Especially when it started to get ugly in public. We'd go to dinner after he had spent 5 hours drinking in his hotel room - alone only to go to a nice restaurant and he would do something totally embarrassing. I hate those kinds of scenes and that made me start to see him in a very dark way.

That is why I needed the space - I also knew I was ready to leave when that old Saturn in the 8th of mine kicked in saying "Do you really want this man to touch you - do you really have feelings for him" --- that is how that position manifests in my life. It won't let me take just the physical sensation without the emotions behind it.


I really did want it to work and it was hard for me - it was hard for me to keep busting my butt to keep him employed with this company while he would only spend about 50% of his time working and the other 50% just doing his own thing. So once he got laid off for sure -when he should have been laid off a year ago, I just decided to see his reaction - it was all about him - he didn't care what I was going through or how hard I had worked to get his severance package and he took it for granted - like everything else.

Now, things may not work at all with Mr. Taurus - it all may be too good to be true. I know that he finds me somewhat mysterious and he was instantly attracted to me..which is really cool, but I know that it can go cold as quick as it turned hot. For some reason he doesn't strike me as that kind of guy, I worry more that I may lose interest - that my fickle Venus in Sag will get restless or will hurt his Venus in Cancer. We also both share the Mars in Pisces, which is great for competition. We had a blast playing air hockey - he taught me- and I proceeding to beat him senseless the first game and I lost by two points the second game.

Oh, did I also say how weird the connection is? My dad was also in the Army then went into law enforcement - cop to special agent in narcotics. His goal is keep working the customs aspect and move into explosives so when he is out of the Army he will train dogs for that type of work and / or go right into a police department / federal enforcement. Most of my background is working with animals - so should anything develop - I can work with him with the animals.

If anything, we will be great friends. We had talked about the business I want to open with my mom - on Monday my bro sent a pic of a cool salon / spa that is for sale near him. Mom and I had discussed a massage / meditation room and that we'd have to hire a massage therapist - well he is that..licensed and he is very good with massage

But....the skeptic in me is waiting for the "bad news" the skeletons in the closet - but my radar didn't go off. I mean, usually I get this "feeling" at least once or twice on the first date, but not with him. So either he is genuine or he is a sociopath.LOL.....I hope he isn't mental...that's my job.

And Lioneye, I am very touched that you care and what you said means alot. Leo's are the best!!!!!

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Lol so much lioneye,

You took the very words right out of my mouth right there too.

I have NO intention of sounding like a bummer to pidaua either, and I am SO psyched that it sounds like she had such a WONDERFUL time with him, but I was going to say the exact same things, especially regarding that very tricky Venus conjunct Neptune as well.

Not that my advice is worth very much AT ALL in the least to anyone, since I have never had a serious relationship before, but going by things I have seen and heard in various places until now and....

also having just read about the dreaminess which Venus SEXTILE Neptune imparts on a relationship, let alone what kind of it that such a conjunction like this one might bring to it....

I just want to add that I think she needs to be somewhat cautious about all of it too.

I simply wouldn't want to see pid rush into more of a 'falling in love with an image of a person' type of thing, which is exactly what can happen when things take off this fast....

more than she actually falls in love with a real, live person, that's all.


But in the meantime though, have as much fun as you can anyway, pid, lol!!!!

And do remember us when you want to let out any of those details about it too, lol.

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posted May 06, 2004 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi PPFM,

Yes, I understand what you mean. I am a bit worried about the Venus Conjunct Neptune -which falls in my 3rd house and his 7th house. Everything happens for a reason, and maybe this adventure is just that, something to show me what I was missing with Mr. Leo. I met him as I was leaving my ex-hubby- the Virgo that couldn't love to the Leo that was physically fulfilling, but not demonstrative or open to possibly the Taurus that can show me what it's like spoiled.

Then I can take all those experiences (like a good little Virgo rising) and apply it to the next guy. Believe it or not, I do try to ensure never to date a new guy that has any of the hang ups of the others - maybe I am gambling with the odds...but I look at it like this - I'll get lucky one of these days and find one that isn't a mess.

I know I may come across as lovesick - that is more my flare for writing - Neptune in the 3rd - but on the surface, I am more than composed...gotta love that Pluto rising.

Well see how things develop over the next few weeks of just keeping in contact over the phone and e-mail. He could be very different when I see him in June or we could find that we actually have feelings for each other. Either way...it's a new path and Archers like new paths

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posted May 06, 2004 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hooked     Edit/Delete Message
You're a great storyteller. I just can't get enough, I feel like I'm in the middle of watching a soap opera. Good luck with the Taurus

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posted May 06, 2004 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you hooked..LOL...I am glad you like the story - I sometimes seems to carry on..and on..

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Well, geez, Pid...now that you told me all that about Mr. Leo I have to wonder how you managed to stay in it for as long as you did. Some men are single for a good reason, huh? That's why they say "all of the good ones are taken"...true, so true...especially when you get past 25 or so.
So, if you have to dip into the 'younger men' pool to find a good one, well...so be it, dammit! LOL...It's en vogue now anyway. Besides, Saggies remain youthful all their lives, at least in spirit, so HE may be hard pressed to keep up with YOU!
So, you have a Mars/Mars conj, Neptune/Venus conj., trining ascendants, what else? What's his moon again?

I'm sorry Mr. Leo was a shmuck. Sounds like a classic case of committment phobia, mixed with a screwed up devotion to another great love of his, alcohol. I think that contributes to alot of failed relationships, actually. But, I'm glad you still like Leos though. We can't just decide to hate an entire 1/12th of the human race because of a bad experience or two, (because some people do that, you know...)

Probably also didn't help that the company was no longer paying the airfare for you two to get together anymore. A long distance relationship can really get expensive if you have to fly around the country to see one another. Ah well. C'est la vie. It must have been sweet for a while.

Wow, it sounds like your life is changing in so many ways, all at the same time. How excited you must be! What would YOU be doing at the salon? Do you have any training of that nature? Hey, that's what Pixie and Gloria do for a living too. (I think)

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. sigh....

"Ditto" what hooked said.

Contrats to you.

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Edited.

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Lol again lioneye,

I was thinking the EXACT same thing as you were when I read that account about Mr. Leo too, lol.

I am not one for heavy alcohol use either.

Lol, I also have to believe that not ALL Leos are as self-centered as this one sounds like he might have been with pidaua sometimes too.

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Hmmmm, I tend to find cheap men just because they are my friends first for a long time, and one does have Saturn conjunct the ascendant in Pisces. My sister has Saturn conjunct the ascendant in Aries/12th house and she is super cheap. I have to pay to use her phone.

Regarding Mr Leo-mixing work with romance is really tough. That's always my number one warning to couples, do not work together.

Jupiter in Aries is very good for Venus in fire signs. Cuddly and romantic. I had 2 long term relationships with this placement and it can create so much good will the relationship can become too easy, like a sister/brother duo. It takes a while but it can happen. The only other problem I see with the Taurus is possible jealousy. And not the instant kind but the slow seething kind.

Where he asks "what was that guy's name who you talked to two weeks ago outside that gas station in Idaho?" or something like that. Jupiter in Aries is quick to care, but quick to get hurt if he/she sees less attention.
Other male friends hurt the ego.
I have lots of platonic friends, but Jupiter in Aries or Sag like to feel super special.

A Taurus is very unlikely to embarass you in public, but if he did it would be on purpose.
The Venus in Sag is a very attractive to Jupiter in Aries. I have Venus in Aries and I am always attracted to Jupiter in fire signs and my interest always stays. We become good friends, if the romance ends.

I hope Mr. Taurus is not cheap with himself:>
Is he musical?

Take Care,
Natasha

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posted May 07, 2004 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi All!!!

Angela,

Thank you for your sharing your parents story. It was touching to see how beautiful a relationship between two different signs can become.

As far as Taurus and cheapness, I do think it really has something to do with their Saturn position as well as other influences. He has his Sun in the first house conjuncting his Ascendant - makes him almost Leo like - I can sense the fire, but I can also sense the tenderness. Mostly, I LOVE his sense of humor. We actually make each other laugh so much that I find my stomach hurts. He appreciates my sort of weirdness because it a lot like his own weirdness.

When he came to that part in the Linda Goodman Sun Signs description of Saggies, that said "She can come across like a puppy dog, clumsily stumbling all over your feet" He really let out a belly laugh - because the day before we were walking I would keep stepping on him and sort of bumping into him. I was worried that it would annoy him, but wouldn't you know it - Taurus with Venus in Cancer loves touch - and he said "No, I love it..it makes me feel like you really want to be near me". Which was true and I felt so goofy being as excited as I was.

What I find so amazing about this budding relationship (which seems to be more than just budding - it seems like I have known him forever) is that we can talk about these issues. I can bring up points from here or from my synastry books and we discuss them.


Lioneye,

Mr. Leo's drinking got progressively worse over time. At first it was just occasional, just a few drinks and that was it. Then he started to get more and more into it. To the point where I knew I needed to break things off with him because every evening he called me he started to sound drunk. I am not sure if it was the distance, the ending of the job or what, but it became too constant. That last trip in Phoenix was hard, but the worst trip was in August in Washington State. That was the trip that I posted about when he began to act like a total jerk because I was getting compliments from his friends. He had taken it upon himself to get so drunk he could hardly stand, then he started to flirt with anyone and everyone. What really hurt was he started to use pet names for me on someone else to make me jealous. I ended up having to walk him back to the hotel, get him into his room and into bed. I had this flash in my mind "God this could be my life". We had planned to drive down the Kennewick to our favorite little hotel the next day- it was the first place we ever had been together - so it was to be extra special. *****Total side thing here -here is another weird eerie thing about Mr. Taurus and I. He had never been to WA in his life until 2002, when he visited family that just open a ranch near the Tri-cities. He stayed several times in Kennewick, the same small part of the town - in the same hotel that I stayed in with Mr. Leo and went to the same Roadhouse for steak / dancing. It is not well known and most people head to the more upscale areas near the river. I wonder if our paths ever crossed during one of my trips? **** Okay - back to Mr. Leo....

I followed him down because the next day I was going to drive back up to Post Falls to visit my brother and his family. I was mortified because I noticed his pickup slightly weaving. We we got to the hotel - his eyes were red and he was pretty lit up. I was ashamed and I knew then, in my heart, it was over. I don't know why I held on - it wasn't so much because I loved him or wanted to be with him, it was almost like I wanted him to see what he was doing to himself. After that we did break up - I couldn't talk to him without feeling sick. Maybe because when we got the rooms ( I always had my own) he passed out, half dressed, like a fool, on his bed. I felt shame for him. It was then I knew I would never marry him, I would never want him to be the father of my children - I would always be worried he would get drunk and act stupid.

In Phoenix I pretty much went my own way. I knew it was ending, but wanted to see if I could still enjoy "us", but it was empty. So - I haven't seen him since the end of January - we hardly talk - but that is more my choice because I have nothing to say to him. It's a shame too, because it was in Phoenix that he kept telling me how much he loved me and needed me, but I didn't feel it..I wanted to- it just wasn't there.

No, I am not turned off from Leo's at all. Mr. Leo had his own issues and alot of it came from family problems and his overwhelming feeling of abandonment. He had a horrible relationship with his father and knew that he would never receive the approval that he was so desparately searching for -which is funny, because astrologically, my Saturn squared his Sun, Moon and Mercury, indicating a sense of authority or a sense of being similar in authority to his father. As spiritual as Mr. Leo was, in nature, he couldn't grasp it, was afraid of it, but that is not so with Mr. Taurus, which is why even if it doesn't work out (which I have a feeling things will) I know he and I can still be damn good friends.

About Mr. Taurus - here are out stats:

Me: Dec 16, 1969 11:45pm Artesia, CA
Him: May 19, 1975 6:00am Wilson, NC (he's a twin..and he is so close to Gemini).

Our Synastry is weird, even though we have a few good stressful aspects that will add a ton of contention, I see it as helpful for those other aspects where we can become very complacent. Also, the number of Conjunctions is very odd.

My Venus - His Neptune (my sun has a wide conjunction to his Neptune)
My Jupiter / Eros - His Uranus
His Jupiter - My Moon
My Chiron - His Mars
His Chiron / psyche - My Saturn
His Mercury - my Midheaven
My Pluto - His Uranus

His Moon / Eros falls in my 12th house
My moon falls in his 12th house
Both our Merc's fall in the others 9th house
We both have Venus in the 3rd house
His Sun falls in my 9th house
My Sun falls in his 8th house
My Venus in his 7th house
His Mars and Jupiter falsl in my 7th house - His mars is on my DC (may be problematic as it does oppose my Pluto / Ascendant)

If you want to take a stab at our charts - that's cool. I am working on the same thing, because we both was the good and the bad.

In a composite - we have a Cancer Ascendant with our Sun in Pisces - in the 8th house (Composite Sun conjunct Mars - but Mars is in the 9th house) we also have Venus conjunct Pluto, Moon in the 12th house, Uranus in the 4th house (might be a bit iffy - doesn't seem that stability would be a sure thing. LOL) Jupiter forming an tight conjunction with the Decendant in the 7th house.


So it seems to be somewhat interesting - Spiritual to say the least, as well as physical. I did share the Venus conjunct Pluto composite aspect with Mr. Leo as well.

Oh..remember how I said he likes to do these little surprises and placed some things around my apartment for me to find later? Well, I was taking out a plate for dinner last night. When I open the cupboard, there was a card - inside was a picture of a little girl with three wishes. Inside of the card, he wrote his three wishes for us...I thought I was going to just turn into a puddle - right then and there. I called him and just gushed on - then I also said "Please don't think you must to this to get my attention or because you feel you have to, I just want you to be real" He said "This is me, I want to always surprise you and make you feel special". Which is weird, because that is what I do for people, especially those I really care about. I love to watch them smile when I give them something I know they will like. It's refreshing to meet someone like that too.

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posted May 07, 2004 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Natasha,


Mr. Taurus is not cheap with himself. He likes to save money and buy nice things - and he loves to indulge in pampering himself. He makes no attempt to hide his feminine side, the side that loves to be spoiled with top quality lotions, shampoo, massage oils..LOL...which is great by me, because I have always wanted to find a man that was maculine - but was also in touch with that side that wants to look good and feel good. We talked about the whole indulgent desire to want to go to a spa and just get spoiled beyond belief - a day of massage, pampering, bubble baths, champagne..that kind of thing. What I find is interesting is that I DO think he could go overboard with trying to indulge me. When we went to the wine shop to browse and pick up some Cervesa for the Mexican dinner I was making - he wanted to buy a $80 bottle of icewine because I had never had it. I just couldn't let him do it - not that he couldn't afford it because I am sure he had a nice little sum saved for such things, but because we didn't need it and I didn't want him to think he HAD to do it. In the same respect - I now know some of his indulgences so as we get closer and should it really progress, I know the items to spoil him with.

Music - well that is something we both share. He loves..I mean LOVES music - all kinds and even has that commercial free XM radio (something like that). We both love dancing and feel a sense of merging when we do so -that is all Mars in Pisces concerning the dancing, and I think the music is just so very Taurus. I also noticed that he likes to sing - even if he is not all that great but he doesn't care which is something I admire. He loves to write poetry - Venus in the 3rd house in Cancer seems to be very romantic.

We have talked about the Jealousy issue. With my Moon in Aries I am more prone to certian immediate jealousy - but that Pluto rising can also make me a bit possessive when it is triggered. When I asked him about the seething jealousy he did admit that it exists. He is also very independant and likes his freedom to a point - in that he wants to be able to have his separate interests as well and be with a woman that has her own - not a problem. LOL..just as long as I have my freedom too.


He does seem very fiery - that whole Moon in the 5th house Sun in the first house thing going on. He is such an extrovert and he DOES come across in a very Leonine / Aries manner. He likes attention, he likes being admired - I like someone I can admire

Well, I will have to post more later - time to pack up more lab crap

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