posted September 29, 2004 11:01 PM         

And so, he didn't put up much of a fight. So - I said to myself - what if the NN was transiting Mr. L's Empty Space in his T-Square too? - which is his 4th House.

Well - I'm having to check and recheck what I'm seeing. We both have our NN entering our House where our T-Square's Empty Space is. For me it's the 12th, for him it's the 4th.

In addition I looked at other transits around that time, and the Moon was transiting my 4th House, as if, he had a complete blindspot as far as my emotional 4th House needs go since his Empty Space is in the 4th. He didn't know how to fill my 4th House needs.

posted September 30, 2004 06:06 PM         

I just had one of those moments when the accuracy of astrology knocks you right over. I just read my Daily on astro.com, and in this short little paragraph all by itself at the very end it says :::

"If you have recently broken off a relationship it may be best to leave it that way. Do not make a real effort to put it back together until this time is over."

Ummmm .... it almost feels too close for comfort. A part of me would still like to blame the break-up on some human error. But it's comforting in that I must still be going Godspeed.

In the mean time, Mr. T keeps calling my number and I have no intention of answering, and almost changed my phone number yesterday. I just feel like with my birthday coming up on Saturday, like I just want to make a fresh start. Actually, that's how it works out when you've allowed the 12th House to drag Aries into the mix. Needless to say, my Scorpio influences are kicking in since they know most about "transformations," "death," and "rebirth".

PS::: had to add - the above was based on Transiting Saturn in Cancer Conjuncting my Moon in Cancer, which is also Conjuncting his Mars in Cancer at the same time. Lordy Lordy. Just when you're ready to tell someone he's "the one".

posted September 30, 2004 10:27 PM         

I am sorry if Mr. Libra made you unhappy, was it anything specific? Happy Birthday, Saturday is an important fresh start day for me too as it marks the day I give my mother her only chance to mend our relationship.

Mr. Taurus sounds like a big pain, get selective call block and block out his number, maybe he'll get the message.

Take Care, I am sending you lots of birthday wishes, get some cake and post the flavour!

posted October 01, 2004 02:44 AM         

My utter confusion over men never ceases!!! UHHH!!!

When I saw him 2 weeks ago, I'm all excited and happy to see him, and I told him my birthday would be in ... 2 weeks ... and if he was going to help me celebrate, and he said we would definitely figure something out.

So then I call him Wednesday and asked if we were making plans, and he said, "I don't know." And it wasn't like he was being an a-hole, it was because of him putting his financial situation ahead of me and my birthday - he really DOESN'T know. But he could have been a little more creative in his response, and 4 hurricanes within 6 weeks put this entire state into a economical convulsion, so it's not like I don't understand, and he knows I've been as patient and understanding as a saint.

But I'm NOT gonna let my birthday go by and feel resentful, you know? Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

And he tried to make it clear that he was not saying no to me, but that he didn't know if we could celebrate it fully exactly on that day/night. And I said, well, if we don't have plans I'm going to go ahead and make plans.

He probably got the feeling that I'd gotten a "better" invitation or something, and so he just said, "OK, go ahead and make plans for your birthday." And in still a calm voice, I just said ok, and hung up. Nothing really momentous or showing how I just had no more patience for this.

So I don't think he knows I broke up with him.

On the one hand, it hurts like helll, but realistically, you can bring a horse to water but ... you can't make him drink. And I didn't feel I had the opportunity lately to communicate things fully to him, and so now, he's missing out on a whole lot. A WHOLE lot. Even things that would help him to get through his troubles too, but he's being all Cappy Mooner - has to figure it out on his own, or he's not worthy of me.

As for Mr. T., my cell service does not have a block feature. He already called two more times today. And an even weirder thing is, the only OTHER guy who keeps calling me like this is Aquarius w/Taurus Moon. Mr. T is Taurus w/Aqua Moon. Is that too weird or what? If you look at my cell phone's incoming phone #'s, they are both there together. They should date each other!

I'll probably end up changing my number because I'm just not into phone calls that much to begin with, but I really don't want to. And I DO NOT derive any pleasure at all, ego or otherwise, out of knowing they are trying to call me when I don't want to answer, don't ever want to talk to the Aquarian or the Taurus ever ever ever for the rest of my life. No exceptions.

It's like these two characters PLUS Mr. L. just keeping running into my fist. Like they are just doing it to themselves.

Thank you for the birthday wishes. And thanks for letting me vent a little. Just getting my "woman's time" now too. So. It never fails that special holidays in the year usually end up some of the worst days for me. Why I hate Thanksgiving & Christmas, and all that unforgiving stress.

The way I feel about men right now, is how everyone here in Florida felt after the 4th hurricane. You just give up and let things land where they will.

Natasha - there's nothing to do, is there?

posted October 01, 2004 01:57 PM         

happy (early) birthday! i hope that you have a great one, i really do.

i'm sorry to hear about the split with mr. libra...but i thoroughly commend your ability to be (and appear) calm & collected about it all! i really respect that. i don't know, i have a hard time with that myself. i always want to detach myself and be rational about it all, but at the last minute my emotionality kicks in. sometimes i say stupid things. you know, the kind of things you kick your self for later.

i do wish you a wonderful birthday.

chrissy

posted October 01, 2004 02:48 PM         

Those make great holiday companions, Scorpios and Scorpio moons like very easy going holidays, with activities, not too emotional since they are emotional enough everyday.

I think when your everyday life is less dramatic, you want a more dramatic birthday and romantic/friends do not put that consideration into it all the time. That is why this year I am saying HI, and celebrating just a bit with my ex this year, since as a Libra he is never satisfied with his birthday celebration either.

But as romantic partners, he disliked me, I would always get flustered and think the cake wasn't good enough, or something like that. Libras can be demanding and Venus in Virgo likes perfection, so if I had to do the cake I would buy it and he would get angry and hurt.

So now that we are friends, it's easier. I can buy him a piece of cake and a candle!

You see what I mean, it's more childlike and fun.
Birthdays especially are about childhood fun.

It's a good time for ice cream, and cake. Find someone who likes that, and you will be happy.
What is your email address? If you send it to me I will send a great card.

I had a card from a Cancer moon friend and it meant a lot to me, more than gifts from romantic/friends. Sometimes getting what you want is more important than what you need-on Birthdays!

Possibly you are not broken up with Mr. Libra, he sounds like the practical sort, who doesn't think about cake/ice cream much. He does have a Capricorn moon, at Easter my mother made us select and purchase our candy in advance by ourselves. Very Moon/10th house. Practical.

posted October 01, 2004 03:54 PM         

**edited**

The only thing that makes me wonder if it's not over is our astrological stuff. THAT'S IT. Or else, I would not think twice.

My attitude at this point is that it is over, and to meet new friends. So I've already gone forward in my mind with that, although, no, I did not have a "better" invitation for my birthday. But I have a desire to make new friends.

posted October 01, 2004 04:03 PM         

Man, I am sorry about your break up. I think things are tense right now as it is. I am not sure if it is just a NN thing though. We also have the Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Mercury all lined up in Libra. With Saturn still in Cancer it is an extremely tumultuous time for all things relating to those signs and houses.

I have been feeling it too. It seems like having all those planets opposing my moon and squaring my mercury is just making things harder and harder- even relationship wise. You being a Libra with a Cancer moon equals major turmoil as fars as being in the middle of a cosmic sandwich- Saturn and the rest of the planets are tweaking you for better or for worse- let's not forget Pluto's waking up from the retrograde and sending a few tense beams to your Venus in Virgo.

Mr. Libra has to be feeling the pain as well. His Cappy moon and Aries house / planets can't be feeling all that comfortable at this time.

posted October 01, 2004 04:09 PM         

Thanks for your kind words. The thing helping me to deal with the emotional side of it is having a Plan B, and then also accepting that you may have to go to Plan B, and if so, you must follow through.

Pidaua -

posted October 01, 2004 04:17 PM         

Here's to new friends, and I will wish you Happy Birthday again,

posted October 01, 2004 10:25 PM         

I'm so excited! I got a new guy to anaylyze astrologically!

OK - I KNOW I'm a major dork, and since the only people who ever come into this sappy "love" room are other girls, or guys who grew up with a bunch of sisters, here goes ... My birthday is in an hour and a half, I'm on the first day of my period, the guy I'd die to be with is not with me, and 3 guys I DON'T want to "be with" keep calling, like ALL the time so that I just turned my ringer off yesterday afternoon - it's my cell so I'll have a history to look at.

So far, I see Guy #3 (oh my - I feel so dirty) is a Capricorn ... be back in a sec with more juice - Oprah, move over! I'm getting back in the saddle girl.

posted October 01, 2004 10:59 PM         

If I tell you ... you will never believe me ... you'll think I'm making this up ... this is TOOOOOO weird.

OK, I'll give you a hint. Mr. T & his reverse-negative is too weird unto itself, but now follow this line of thought - If Mr. L is a Libra w/Cappy Moon, then Guy #3 has HIS Sun & Moon is which Signs? (I know you can do this ...)

I need to recollect myself here - I think I've got the vapors at the moment ...

posted October 02, 2004 03:17 PM         

So there's a total of 4 :::

An Aquarius w/Taurus Moon
A Taurus w/Aquarius Moon
A Libra w/Cappy Moon
And a Cappy w/Libra Moon

(the only one I'm interested in is Mr. L)

I've got to get some feedback on this. Just toooo weird...

Well - I looked up my Composite with Guy 3#, who's exact birth time I also got, and the Composite report has me quite cautious now, so many problems and turbulence. Ain't no way. But his Mercury in Sag and Mars in Aries is refreshing. It's just that although he's got the assertiveness (and in no uncertain words), I do not welcome it because he's not "the one". We also have our NN & SN's crossed in Aquarius & Leo. But it ain't enough. If you read the Composite, you'd totally agree. It's like 85% totally negative, whereas me and Mr. L's is like 85% totally positive.

Oh well ...

I guess I just gotta keep driving these boys crazy ... a woman's work is never done ...

posted October 02, 2004 10:24 PM         

My advice..remember at the end of the day, no matter what his Mars and other planets may be, he is still a Capricorn. If a Cappy is what you are seeking, then I would give it a go, but if you are really into Mr. Libra, then maybe it is time to just lay it on the line with him.

I know...easier said than done right? These seem to be a time of tests. I know it and can feel it too. I have Mr. Leo calling and professing his undying love and it is making me question how I feel about Mr. Taurus. Or maybe it is just making me question everything so that I can find something wrong and justify running.

UGH!! how mental

Anyway, I went through a time like what you are going through. I had a Leo with an Aqua moon that I was seeing, an Aqua with a Leo moon that was interested in me (and very..very..hot). Then there was this Libra with a Leo moon and another Cancer with a Leo moon. I was like surrounded by Leo forces. LOL...

posted October 02, 2004 11:38 PM         

I give this to you...

Honor Your Spirit!!

Life is difficult on some days and you need to let go of those who do not honor your Spirit. Forgive him and put your ego at ease. You know your worth and accept nothing less...Be at Peace...

I always tell my friends this when a guy just doesn't pull his weight. The balance seems to be delicate at times between our expectations vs reality. Personally, I really dig Birthdays and I would have to let go from a guy who didn't want to celebrate my special day...after all, it isn't the money that matters...it is the warmth and love we feel when someone writes us a heartfelt letter, or sings us the Birthday song off-key...someone that makes an effort in one way or another!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AJ!! You bring a lot of sunshine and personality to this site-it sure wouldn't be the same without you here!

posted October 03, 2004 07:48 AM         

Thanks. Wow - isn't it weird how these astrological patterns seem to be much much more than coincidental? The other day when the Moon was in Taurus, the Aqua/Taurus Moon guy called and left a frustrating & "emotional" message, "Did you just wipe me out of your mind completely?!!!" It's kind of funny, but again, utterly confusing to me why someone would continue calling for a year if I don't answer the phone.

Laying it down for Mr. L would be lovely if I could just snap my finger and whoalla! I'm not going to go through his same insane Mars in Cancer approach through then HIS birthday in 2 weeks, and then Thanksgiving, Christmas & New Years. F$ck it! No more Mars in Cancer, and no Cancer Sun or Risings for good measure. Again, there is something about the way I come across, no matter what I do, guys have a difficult time seeing me clearly, until I'm out the door. THEN these pathetic phone calls start. Never fails. I don't know if it's because I'm moving forward so quickly, or if it's a blessing in disguise.

That's what my gut tells me.

GemStar -

I'm not a materialistic person, and if a guy thinks the only way he's going to be ready to love a girl fully is when he feels proud of his achievements, well - he's in for a rude awakening. We have/had a GREAT opportunity to be a team, I have no doubt of that, and I have no doubt he'll be one more in a line of many to realize that a little too late.

Thank you so much for the birthday wishes, and saying that this site wouldn't be the same without me, well, I'll just have to get some broadband cables to my hammock, the one tied between two palm trees when I run away from all this madness.

.gloria

PS: I pulled out my cell phone user manual and figured out a way to at least make it sound like my phone number has been changed or disconnected. And I won't even have to listen to any "blah-blah" messages they leave anymore. I'll try this for a while - but maybe eventually change my number.

posted October 03, 2004 12:54 PM         

"Your key planet, Venus, is moving into your 12th House of Endings. Even with so many other planets in your own sign now, there still may be unconscious attraction leading you, as if you were being pulled by an invisible string. It's more important than ever to listen to your inner voice when it talks to you about love. Outer-directed social activities may turn inward as your needs change. Observe what you do, but don't make the big decisions yet."

posted October 03, 2004 02:34 PM         

I man, I really understand where you are coming from with the whole "They don't see me clearly until I am out the door". UGH!!! That is so damn frustrating. Like when Mr. Leo called me to tell me how much he still loves me and how he never realized how much I had done for him..blah blah blah....

Why is it that people take so much for granted? I never understood that, don't they realize that you can easily lose someone? Maybe it was how I was brought up, to never take the love for granted, never lose the day with that person because you may not have another day to spend with them.

posted October 04, 2004 01:22 AM         

Moon Transiting his 7th
Transiting Saturn Conjunction Natal Mars
" Mercury Square " Moon
Moon Opposition Ascendant
Moon Trine Mercury,
Moon Opposition Neptune
Moon Trine Pluto
Moon Trine Sun

posted October 05, 2004 03:34 AM         

So ...

* Guy #3 has his Moon in Libra in the 10th House - similar to Mr. L's energy with his Cappy Moon.

* Guy #3 and Mr. L both have Sag Asc's, & Gemini Desc's.

* Guy's #3's Mercury & Jupiter in Sag in his 1st House matches the intensity of Mr. L's 9th House influences.

* Guy #3's Mars is in his 4th House, Mr. L's Mars is in Cancer. PS::: I've been biatching about no more Mars in Cancer's, but Guy#3's Mars is in Aries, and even in the 4th, comes on too harsh for me when combined with the coolness of his Sun, Moon & Venus (Aquarius).

So I find this interesting because there are some definite patterns here I can study, which may provide clues as to my karmic direction. All 4 guys are karmically tied together in and of themselves. But all 4 also create a pattern.

posted October 05, 2004 10:42 AM         

I'd have to say that in all matters of the heart, this one hits the bullseye -

For Oct 5th

"Evasive maneuvers -
During this time it may well be that you hide yourself away somewhere to avoid having to deal with the tension between your desires and your anxieties. Or perhaps you give in to your desire, but only half-heartedly, so that you get only half of something in the end, which is not what you actually wanted.

This quality of time can indicate where your difficulties lie, i.e. in acknowledging your desires and completely giving yourself up to certain experiences. You will perhaps ascertain that this has to do with an insecurity or feeling of inadequacy of yours. That is why you should find out which experiences you actually avoid ­ then you can make a conscious effort to share these experiences with an understanding, sympathetic person who will not injure you anew."

OUCH!!!!!!

In addition, it is a day PACKED w/8 different Moon aspects.

... more details ...

"The interpretation above is for:
Venus Opposition Chiron


Other transits:
Moon Trine Mars
Moon Trine Chiron
Moon Trine Mercury
Moon Sextile Pluto
Moon Square Sun
Moon Trine Neptune
Moon Sextile Uranus
Moon enters Cancer


Longterm inlfluences:
"Self-criticism" (Saturn Conjunction Moon)
"A bolt from the blue" (Uranus Conjunction Chiron)
"Quiet hours" (Venus in the 4th House)"

So today, my only beef is with my Sun & Saturn, but no worries as long as I meet someone soon so I can get "done" every night. There's a bit of miracle tonic somewhere in there.

(I have no idea ...)