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Topic: "If These Walls Could Talk"
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 1719 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted December 29, 2012 11:47 AM
BREAKING THE SILENCE"If These Walls Could Talk" No words No name No breath No fame No pictures No thought No love None, naught So shallow So still So smooth So chilled Welter runs Spilling over Desert drape Thickly hovers Over the silence Over the mouth Over the moods Of this house i wish...if only the walls could talk - written November 2, 1996 mirage29 Mara _______ (other poems at LL YellowWax) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum17/HTML/002603.html IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 31423 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2013 10:17 AM
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Virgo-AriesArtist Knowflake Posts: 892 From: MidWest :) Registered: Jun 2009
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posted January 02, 2013 09:59 AM
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taureau20 Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 07, 2013 03:54 PM
The walls in which we live (walls of our room) I often think are a reflection of the sub-conscious.. as though the room itself were your head... That is why a picture of Elvis hanging on a girl's room is akin to Elvis being always on the back of the mind of the person in question.. Pure conjecture though all this.... IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 1719 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 01:22 AM
Hi taureau20... Thank you for your thoughtful response. You are correct about a picture hanging on that wall--I wrote this piece during a very constricted part of my life. I placed my words into the room or a backdrop of a particular memory... a visit to the waterfalls of Niagra Falls, NY / Ontario, in the mid 1970s. Spent three or four days at Niagra Falls, drawing in the stunning experience. I stood at the edge of this cliff--, representing the magical point-and-line giving birth to the powerful downward thrusting thunderous waters. Standing so close at the top (USA, NY side), I could see that the water spilling over the edge seemed less than a mere few inches deep from the place at the lip, where the water fell... The water on that day seemed so quiet and calm. But when it fell, it joined many waters. The roar on its way down had a rushing sound more mighty than the word 'thunder' could ever describe. Such a wonder... that something so ordinary and plain (as a few inches of water) can turn down and transmute into an incredibly heavy mind-surpassing experience of power. And I pondered (as I stood there watching) how many other people had ever stood there at these waterfalls and had such a 'personal' experience about the waters. The history this place holds MUST be richer than it could ever tell! The whole atmosphere was quite surreal to me. Something I've not forgotten to this day. In my poetry scrapbook, I made a collage of 'a woman looking down on Niagra Falls'... sorta like this! [URL of guy looking at lip of Falls removed because URL did not access this picture anymore... ] 8/21/2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brooklyn_Museum_-_Niagara_-_Louis_R%C3%A9m y_Mignot_-_overall.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hunt_-_Niagara_Falls.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Falls
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 1719 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:43 PM
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taureau20 Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 02:27 PM
Always nice to hear of the origins of any poem. Very vivid description one of the frothings of those falls is this poem itself..IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 1719 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 06:35 PM
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posted January 21, 2013 01:53 PM
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posted January 21, 2013 02:03 PM
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taureau20 Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 22, 2013 04:25 AM
Hey mirage29, I am not aware of what your story is but I can tell you of what I am sure of. We are not reflections of a dream, we are the dream itself. If you do not know that, it simply means that you are in the deeper part of the dream, where we for all our innocence believe with all our force, so rejoice till one day you are in shallower waters. *** Here is a poem by Lewis Carroll, "A boat beneath a sunny sky" A boat beneath a sunny sky, Lingering onward dreamily In an evening of July-- Children three that nestle near, Eager eye and willing ear, Pleased a simple tale to hear-- Long has paled that sunny sky: Echoes fade and memories die. Autumn frosts have slain July. Still she haunts me, phantomwise, Alice moving under skies Never seen by waking eyes. Children yet, the tale to hear, Eager eye and willing ear, Lovingly shall nestle near. In a Wonderland they lie, Dreaming as the days go by, Dreaming as the summers die: Ever drifting down the stream-- Lingering in the golden gleam-- Life, what is it but a dream? IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 1719 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 22, 2013 04:27 PM
[original URL removed because URL of 'guy pointing at lip of Falls where it was only a few inches deep, and had a balloon caption saying, Hey Mom Look!'... failed to access that same picture anymore, 8/21/2013][This one is closest..... I'll have to find a newer pix.] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hunt_-_Niagara_Falls.jpg Hello taureau20... I wonder if ^this guy^ will actually 'wake up' to 'find himself', and suddenly realize that he was an immature fool who wound up clinging onto a ledge and could slip & fall? Has he unknowingly placed himself into a picture of reality that wound up being too 'edgy' and way over his own ken? Will he awaken to find that he's 'not a real part of this picture'? yes... I admit!! I'm getting a wee bit over-philosophical here for myself, taureau... Lovingly, I do appreciate your presence and comments... You help me Break the awful Silence in my life!! I am grateful... please don't stop. 'on a boat'... Could it be that I was not fully awakened to the 'fact' that I was not "properly" trained for these things? But if I wanted to.... Who could say "how" to steer this ship, and "what" do I do to successfully navigate the treacherous waters... The physical event looms up in my sights, and I overwhelm with terrible freezing fear? My boat, my boat! I need wings WITH these paddles, for I'm at the point of exhaustions--- Yet, so fascinating that my Spirit feels so clear, and she still pursues to soar!! 'I am not alone' (ref to your beautiful Mistral poem) --- or, rather, am I?
In the absence of safety-nets and right-counsel I find myself displayed as an object of scorn... The old trash-- to be discarded? Is its use no longer worthy of re-purposing? ...Well, *sighing*, as my hurful narcissistic Mother often told me, "It's better that they are laughing at you, and not at somebody who didn't deserve it...?" What I said to her was like, "I could have had 'Something I Would Like' instead..." www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum17/HTML/002603.html Here's to misty memory of wrong paths taken.... (music) The Salley Gardens, Benjamin Britten (poem of Yeats), Ian Bostridge & Julius Drake [2:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mN-Ke8LCtg IP: Logged |
taureau20 Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 24, 2013 09:00 AM
Well it is difficult to understand what you are saying but I discern few things: I sense a feeling of guilt (?) (saying "guilt" for lack of a better word) for not doing/having done what you ought to have/ or believe you were meant to do in life - life-purpose as they call it. Well simply put - it is difficult to be happy without having attained one's life purpose. And when one deviates from the path, he/she can even forget what they were meant to do to the point that what they are doing at the moment may overshadow - thus aiding in the forgetting - what they were meant to do. I also see that you are unsure of where you stand - what really is out there - what is life, etc. There is no great wisdom really that one needs to obtain in my honest opinion, no book to really read. There is a famous Zen saying which I really like. Goes like this: "There is really nothing you must be and there is nothing you must do. There is really nothing you must have and there is nothing you must know. There is really nothing you must become. However, it helps to understand that fire burns, and when it rains, the earth gets wet." It just turns out that doing something worthwhile in life helps cultivate a sense of well-being if one is not on the path of becoming a Buddhist monk - so why not do it! ______ If you are that guy who is toying with over-the-edge stuff, well what I can say is that it helps to put things in perspective; sometimes metaphorically. And since you have used the metaphor yourself - of a guy leaning on the edge of Niagara falls - I guess you pretty well know that that can be fatal. So what has to be done? Well the answer is simple. Go back from there and go home. Doing that might not be so easy. But one can hypnotize oneself by concentrating on something attractive and yet more worthwhile - say an art. IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 1719 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 25, 2013 10:34 PM
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 2981 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted January 26, 2013 02:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: taureau20... Again, thank you so much for the kindness of your thought-provoking response. edited 1/26/2013 I feel safety is compromised... presence of ethereal29 has made this place null for me... I have to leave
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 31423 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2013 02:36 PM
How can someone feel unsafe on an anonymous internet board? IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 5435 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 26, 2013 08:11 PM
God bless, mirage. (((hug))) IP: Logged |
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posted January 28, 2013 12:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: taureau20... Again, thank you so much for the kindness of your thought-provoking response. edited 1/26/2013 I feel safety is compromised... presence of ethereal29 has made this place null for me... I have to leave
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mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 1719 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 28, 2013 05:08 PM
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taureau20 Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 29, 2013 01:22 PM
Hey mirage29, since I am not a frequent visitor to LL so I do not understand the context of what you are saying. Nevertheless, I see that there is some sort of conflict. Well, I can offer my two cents for what its worth - I too used to feel very confused and beaten some years before - I think some 3-4 years back. I still remember those strong emotions. Those outcries against people around in relations, etc. Then I resolved to take care of my own destiny and have. And in order to feel free, in order to get rid of the pain I somehow ended up writing - I found that as a recourse. So many years down the line I see it all as part of a poem really. I see poetry everywhere and that is how I am able to make sense of life - that is why sitting and chatting about nothing with a 80 year old in the neighbourhood holds value to me. That is the power of art. Art gives you the strength to control your life with your pen or your brush or whatever tool you use. So if you feel intensely for things, if sensations, sounds burn deeply in your memory then you can probably turn to art. Charles Bukowski started writing poetry at 35. At around 50 his happy days began - he was having wild sex with a 20 something. He lived a happy life thereon. Before that he worked in a post office. Best of luck! IP: Logged |
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posted January 29, 2013 01:29 PM
My post from yesterday disappeared.Did you see it, mirage, or should I write it again? IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 1719 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 29, 2013 02:22 PM
[cropped first part of post]/////... Right now my concern is with the 'real' world where I geographically live. I feel under intensive pressure and threat--Every morning I wake up, I don't know if "this will be the day" that 'all that I have known' will suddenly change & end. I try to stay as steady and grounded as my intellect can keep me,..... but I live in a really bad neighborhood. The place where I live is literally making me sick--- harsh gnashing piercing noises, and mold and pollution here. But ALAS! "This is my only home"... I have NO where else to go, but out to live on the streets... Been estranged from dysfunctional family for decades... (the best mental health decision I ever made). I am afraid I will physically not survive this event when it comes! My grief is in the feeling that I had so much to give, so much good potential in me... but then, in some ways, it now seems that getting to actually live out your potential is 'reserved' for only the privileged few... The resources in this town do not have a way to help people who are "good"... and definitely has no places for bodies and minds that were born 'sensitive'.... I am fragile, YET so mighty and capable when in the Right Environment! In a good environment I am soooo USEFUL, and feel happy and productive; but in the wrong, I live in physical (thus emotional) torment! It affects my BODY, and I am in anguish and perish.... unavoidable here at this apartment, and daily sooo awful for me. I have NO WAY to be able to relocate. My material and social resources are depleted... and I'm afraid of 'being alone' out there in a system that CANNOT accommodate my needs. I'm afraid I could literally die, and society didn't 'realize' it could happen that way....... When you're VALUE is 'nothing' to people---then what good can you be? People literally can die. Some people who encounter 'bad luck' can be a good luck to agencies that can 'use' them to draw down fed and State monies: These people matter to agencies and resources because this style of government makes it lucatrive to the "charity" drawing on the funds. Charity-aimed organizations can make profits off giving 'support' to people who do proverbial sins of society.... ---- There are places for drugs and alcoholics, for ones who are ex-felons, and for sex-offenders. ----- There is help for misplaced "families", for battered-women 'with children'.... There are helps for Minorities and immigrants. But there is NO PLACE for someone completely alone, unencumbered, white person who is too-old yet not not-old enough, not LGBT, not affiliated with cults or any of the 'religious' organizations (eastern NOR western). "I am I"... And there's no place YET for me. I don't "fit" the system of 'resources' because these are VERY tightly targeted and defined... They have NO wiggle-room to 'fit' me with them... I've been told to go ahead and to "lie"--- but I won't! HOW can things in society get rightly "fixed" if EVERYONE is having to lie? Makes things dirty. So, when you think of me, PLEASE PRAY that things will go well with me?? I'm on the ledge of a DRASTIC change, and I can't see where I'm going, nor feel (realistically) that I can PHYSICALLY survive it...
If events happen SUDDENLY, and I go missing from LL, I wouldn't even be able to tell you 'where to find me'--- I'm terrified. I KNOW what is "out there"... Been there before, and at this point I know I won't survive if it BE the same, repeating itself, again. (music) Bessie Bobtail [3:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=1Y70PKOJhns In my heart, my IMPOSSIBLE DREAM will live on Forever!!, for it is a part of my Deep Soul: (music) "I am I, Don Quixote" (Man of La Mancha) (Peter O'Toole) 1972 [2:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEnDOXmyU-o (music) The Impossible Dream [8:51] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfHnzYEHAow IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 1719 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 29, 2013 03:00 PM
Hi there Faith!If I recall, you said God Bless and had a rainbow... You are so lovely. When I came back here this afternoon, the work I had done on my post 5:17pm yesterday was NOT there. Lucky for me that I made a copy of that one... I may go clean up one or two paragraphs so that it "makes sense"-- the part about my advocacy for parents & children at that school... But nope, it's gone from posting above... Thanks for reminding me about your rainbow. Just feeling pretty isolated and threatened today. The gangs around here (my physical neighborhood) are sorta ramp-up with violence, depending on "which" drug is being imported and distributed. I hate it when the more violent side-effect drugs are around. Just tooo many shootings ALL AROUND where I live. yeah, sometimes we appear on national news... I would say sheesh, but nope-- it's serious, and scary, and "they" don't like "me" because I witness their doings. The thing is I have no power... it's up to law enforcement. I just pray that 'they know' and will do a sting. BUT that does NOT bode well for "me"--- the lowly law-abiding older white-lady who happens to see (or they think I see) all their 'business'. It's just sooooooooo corrupt! Apartment manager is sooooo dirty. Oh welp! Vive l'anonymitie---- (I just wish things were different, and the difference looming before me does NOT look good. Sarcastically, it's like do you want to be shot, drowned, or choked? I just PRAY that the one who (metaphorically) grabs me will be the knight in shining armor to translocate me into that place of safety where I will live and flourish without molestation. Love you so much.... thanks Faith! IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 1719 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 29, 2013 03:58 PM
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posted January 29, 2013 10:09 PM
Hi mirage!Ok, you didn't see my other post. I had just remarked on your transits, noticing it made sense that sun transiting Chiron and the t NN over your 12H would make you very sensitive; the other astrological details were a little over my head; I'm way behind with asteroid studies. I also said that Yellow Wax is my favorite forum here, I think it's the most soul-supportive, and you can count on us to buffer and protect you, mentally, while you are here. For what little comfort that brings to your life....which I now see is desperate and terribly sad. So you need better housing but the government is discriminating against you, based on your lack of...how shall I put this..."politically noteworthy" needs? I feel that someone as talented as you ought to be rich! Sought after. Writing and teaching piano, astrological consultations maybe (?) for good money? But I feel its not my place to talk about careers with you...wish I just had something to make your situation all better. I loved your posts, I agree that that it's possible to feel threats just by how people cut in without respecting the atmosphere. I have a person here who constantly wedges herself into my conversations, charming whomever I was talking to and then putting me down, either with astrological hate speech, or more directly. Whenever I try and point out the pattern to other people, I sound like a loon. And it bothers me that other people can't see it. SOME do...and we happen to all be Pisces moons, who see it. A little more intuitive. Anyway...I won't make this too long. Thanks so much for your genius, music, inspiration...it DOES mean a lot, it IS wonderful, and I'm sure many of us are really grateful that you are here. Keep in touch PLEASE, I want to make sure you are safe!! IP: Logged | |