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ListensToTrees
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posted September 22, 2007 07:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If people disagree with me, then that's fine. But please, if you disagree, please offer me a proper explanation backed up by sound FACTS....of what this is all about.


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posted September 22, 2007 07:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In case anyone doesn't know, the pictures of the owl statue, etc are taken from secret video footage of Bohemian Grove (can be watched online).

The owl God is referred to in the Bible as 'Molech'. A 'deity' used for child sacrifice.


Bush and Kerry are both members of an offshoot of Freemasonry known as 'The Skull & Bones Society'. This is not a myth but a fact- check it out for yourselves.

A former member of The Skull & Bones Society felt compelled to write a book about their strange, clandestine practices.

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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law unto itself.

I have been wondering- perhaps we are only 'Free' or have 'Free Will' in as much as we are spiritually awakened. We are like Gods in amnesia. This amnesia is the source of our soul-sickness.

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posted September 22, 2007 07:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Freemasonry goes back to ancient, ancient times.

These secret societies have members at the top who hold very powerful positions in society.


Ok, some of the 'conspiracy' stuff might be crap.

But don't we all deserved a balanced point of view from all perspectives?


If people in positions of high power are members of secret societies with possible strange goings-on and secret agendas, don't we have a right to know what is going on by EXPOSING them?

Is it right that powerful families, politicians, etc (the Bilderburgs) should have secret meetings every year or so, under the excuse that they need to be able to talk to each other freely (secretly) without any of the press around?


We need a revolution.

The Declaration Of Independence came about in 1776. But the problems outlined in it still stand today.

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posted September 22, 2007 07:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aint it funny (if things weren't so appalling it may be).....how history repeats itself?

The Declaration Of Independence read by famous Hollywood actors.

When I first watched it, I thought they were talking about the government of TODAY!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxTvS-kyHzs

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posted September 22, 2007 02:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like someone's been doing ALOT of research. Good for you LTT!
Anyways, I just thought I'de stop by and give you a little present of sorts to add to your collection:

You may also wish to visit this guys site: http://www.freedomdomain.com/freemason.html
Seems he's done a bit of research too!

He also has a Copy of the Original Layout of Washington D.C.
the plans, the way it was supposed to be.

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Sendin' love your way,
"your friend in spirit"

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posted September 22, 2007 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be careful LTT we don't want you getting hauled away in the night, never to be heard from again.

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 22, 2007 05:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yourfriendinspirit:
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Looks like someone's been doing ALOT of research.

Thanks, but I, err, just grabbed them off a bulletin on Myspace someone posted

I was curious to find out what people here would think about it all.

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posted September 22, 2007 05:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Be careful LTT we don't want you getting hauled away in the night, never to be heard from again.

If you never hear from me again, it won't be for that reason.

I'm seriously considering leaving the insanity of this strange world to go and live with a wise group of tribal Natives somewhere.

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posted September 22, 2007 10:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listens To Trees

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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posted September 22, 2007 10:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"THE BROTHERHOOD HAS TUNED THE HUMAN CONCIOUSNESS INTO A FALSE PERSPECTIVE OF TIME, AND IN DOING SO , THEY HAVE DISCONNECTED HUMANITY FROM THE REST OF CREATION WHICH OPERATES ON A DIFFERENT VERSION OF TIME.THUS HUMANITY IS LIVING ITS LIFE OUT OF SYNCRONICITY WITH THE UNIVERSE. NO WONDER THERE'S SO MUCH IMBALANCE. IN TRUTH THERE IS NO TIME. IT IS ONLY OUR PERCEPTION OF TIME,THAT MAKE EVENTS APPEAR TO BE HAPPENING IN A LINEAR TIME LINE. " David Icke ~

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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lotusheartone
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posted September 22, 2007 10:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2005/01/a_warning_about.html

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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silverstone
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posted September 22, 2007 10:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like David Icke; I do not agree with all of his theories, but on some he is right on target...

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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silverstone
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posted September 22, 2007 10:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lotus,


    1) What don't you like about David Icke?

    2) What do you believe is false, based on his writings?

    3) Do you believe in ritual sacrifice?

    4) Have you experienced any of this personally? If not, is your research simply different, along with what has been presented to you?


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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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lotusheartone
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posted September 22, 2007 10:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, I think the guy is nuts, and that he's doing this for his ego, and money...If there was alot of Truth to what he is saying..
there would be real evidence..
Do I think that ritual sacrifice is happening, yes I do, but it's part of the sects, it's not a reptilian thing..

Somewhere Fayte posted about the reptilians and the insectoids, or something to that effect, and I very much agree with what she posted..

Whatever the races may be, it's all mixed at this point, there is perhaps a gateway to another dimemsion, where Reptilians do exist, but for some reason, I think it's in the past, and just lingers, from a time before..

okay, I have to go look at your questions again...

LOve to ALL. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted September 22, 2007 11:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This reptilian stuff, makes me think of the,
Super Mario Brothers Movie..where they enter another diminsion where there are human reptilians..it's a really funny movie..

I have experienced only one, strange kind of strange human being, both had black eyes, that changed shape, to look in their eyes was to perhaps lose yourSelf, for what I saw and felt was true evil, I turned it all to LOve, and they backed away, and walked away..these two encounters, will not be forgotten, there was something so sinister to them..if anything, I would relate that to bugs, not reptiles. ...

The secret societies are run by people just like you and me, they are just power hungry, they have no special powers, or shape-shifting abilities, if so, it's done by illusion, like a magician, a dark one. ...

those are my thoughts for now... .

LOve to ALL. . .

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OMG Jay
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posted September 22, 2007 11:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know it's weird. On September 11th, 2001 many Jews didn't go to work. The owner of the WTC was Jewish.

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 23, 2007 04:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever he is, he isn't anti-semitic. Anyone who says that isn't looking at things from the perspective of everything else he has written. I'm certain that there isn't a single racist bone in his body, if I judge his character personally.

Do people realize that when David first started his path of discovery, he spent the first few years of it being ridiculed, mocked and ostracized? And his family, who he loves dearly, suffered to. But this is how passionate he feels about what he is doing. I don't think he makes a lot of money from it. He probably doesn't have very much money at all, because of all the legal costs and stuff he's had to deal with. But his guides told him that although he wouldn't have much, he would always have what he needs.

Love and Reverence to All....including David Icke, even though I don't agree with everything he says; having blind faith in anything or anyone is a pile of poo!

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posted September 23, 2007 07:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For example, as it stands I find that I believe that there are no such thing as the Reptilians. It is possible that a person's appearance may change slightly during a seance or ritual....I believe David Icke is very gifted but may lack some discrimination....as I have more faith in the idea that there are many highly unbalanced individuals who have false memories of abuse, who are sincere because they suffer from their own delusions.....not to say it doesn't happen because there are sick people in the world who may do such a thing, but as to what level it happens, of course, I can't say.

However, what it boils down to is I just don't know. If I ever see a Reptilian for myself, as long as no-one has popped anything into my drink, then sure- I'll believe.


However, it is quite clear that the people in the world in high positions of power truly are members of secret societies.
THESE PEOPLE ARE GOVERNING PEOPLE'S LIVES due to their power, and many of them are evidently very misguided, unbalanced individuals, SO WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THEY BELIEVE AND WHO THEY WORSHIP.

Agreed?

Not all secret societies are bad. It is probably a mixture of both.

But these things go way back in history. The same groups have been in control for a long, long time. What, exactly is the Catholic church hiding? The elite of Freemasonry? Why aren't more people aware of Bohemian Grove and Skull & Bones?

At some point, somebody is going to have to make things right again.

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posted September 23, 2007 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I simply don't have the time to provide you with links or quotes or book titles that could be helpful in your quest at this point, LTT. I don't really even have time to be posting this at all so forgive my lack of corrections in the following.

What I would say is that just because someone uses concepts or symbols from different religions or from spiritual views that are not mainstream today doesn't mean that they're (1) up to no good or (2) that they actually have any idea what they're doing/saying.

It is my belief that there are real esoteric groups behind the scenes doing their business. But I don't think any one of these so-called Freemason societies has anything real to offer, whether good or bad, in terms of spiritual training. I just think people got a hold of some esoteric information and decided they wanted to be a part of something, too. That's not to say that there was never a time when those in power overlapped with obvious groups but I think that connection has dwindled severly over time to an almost innocuous degree. That said, I don't necessarily think it means people involved in these groups are doing good or bad in their secret meetings ... I wouldn't know having never been there or seen conclusive evidence that they are or are not guilty/innocent of the things they are accused of though there are many interesting things to consider.

It's my opinion that something is amiss but, again, I don't think any of these people at all lay any real claim to "The Great White Brotherhood" even if they do use the name.

One of the things I like least about research on secret societies is how they lump everything together ... like the connection between Osiris and Lucifer or the owls. Just because I have an owl statue doesn't mean I worship anyone or, even if I acted as though I did, it doesn't mean I have any working knowledge or connection to any of the beings associated with owls. I think the explosion of esoteric things being made public this past century is a sign of how purely material "societies" are completely unnecessary for true spiritual growth (and all this is also a great test of an individual's devotion to a path with much nonsense being handed around like precious gems or real gems being treated like nonsense and thus useless to an insincere seeker ... which is even a controversial thing to say as who can prove what is truth and what isn't to anyone else anyway, yada yada, ego) ... though that isn't to say that a group of people can't fashion themselves grand high whatevers and wear robes and cloaks and imitate sacred, older rituals without a real clue as to what the heck they're supposed to be doing/feeling/thinking/experiencing ... and get it all wrong and perhaps even be involved in sinister activities.

Ramble, ramble, ramble. Somewhere in that stream of thoughts was my point. Hope someone caught it.

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