posted June 29, 2014 03:41 AM            

1. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am not allowed to go to a religious service of my own choosing.
B) Others are allowed to go to religious services of their own choosing.

2. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am not allowed to marry the person I love legally, even though my religious community blesses my marriage.
B) Some states refuse to enforce my own particular religious beliefs on marriage on those two guys in line down at the courthouse.

3. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am being forced to use birth control.
B) I am unable to force others to not use birth control.

4. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am not allowed to pray privately.
B) I am not allowed to force others to pray the prayers of my faith publicly.

5. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) Being a member of my faith means that I can be bullied without legal recourse.
B) I am no longer allowed to use my faith to bully gay kids with impunity.

6. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am not allowed to purchase, read or possess religious books or material.
B) Others are allowed to have access books, movies and websites that I do not like.

7. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) My religious group is not allowed equal protection under the establishment clause.
B) My religious group is not allowed to use public funds, buildings and resources as we would like, for whatever purposes we might like.

8. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) Another religious group has been declared the official faith of my country.
B) My own religious group is not given status as the official faith of my country.

9. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) My religious community is not allowed to build a house of worship in my community.
B) A religious community I do not like wants to build a house of worship in my community.

10. My religious liberty is at risk because:
A) I am not allowed to teach my children the creation stories of our faith at home.
B) Public school science classes are teaching science.

Scoring key:

If you answered "A" to any question, then perhaps your religious liberty is indeed at stake. You and your faith group have every right to now advocate for equal protection under the law. But just remember this one little, constitutional, concept: this means you can fight for your equality -- not your superiority.

posted June 29, 2014 11:15 AM            

Really good barometer btw

posted July 01, 2014 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Gods dammit, I don't see am option C...

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Ditto this!

posted July 09, 2014 06:24 PM            

That is to say because we don't have 100% control in all circumstances that therefore we have 0% control in all circumstances.

This is interesting reasoning, IMO, and one I've already adapted to a character in one of my fics that I think makes the character both more interesting and believable for doing the things he does, but it also makes me realize that this is an excellent explanation for the fundies who believe they must have total control or no control and thus act the way they do politically.

As a blatant example (would be very difficult for me to find this needle in a haystack given how busy the Christian Right is and this was several years ago) a church group fought for the right to pass out religious lit in a public school citing the First Amendment and that by prohibiting them from doing so was "promoting atheism." They won in court and they passed out lit while praising God. But then some UUs started passing out their own lit promoting a pagan gathering and the same Christian group is in an uproar saying this is promoting paganism and can't see the blatant hypocritical double standards flapping in front of their faces (and to stop it they eventually got the ruling reversed so that no one could pass out religious lit at the school hoping to keep it in the home where the majority were Christian and thus had more control that way).

That is, they had to have special privileges or they were persecuted...and they believe it! Because either you have total control...or no control at all, not even over yourself.