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KarkaQueen
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posted July 07, 2014 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This keeps popping up in my head somehow..
What do you think of parents who specifically plan a date of birth and time for their children to have to have certain desirable aspects?

Like say you want a Aries Sun child (exalted) with a Taurus Moon (exalted) and a Libra Rising
Good Mercury, Venus, Mars.. all that

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lvASTRO
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posted July 07, 2014 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lvASTRO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's like designer babies. Selecting certain genomes and all that. ;-D I actually have thought about this and don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's like having a summer baby, winter baby, etc.

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posted July 07, 2014 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's possible for any of the others beside sun sign, no one is that crazy, are they?

I think it's absurd. Whatever I'm blessed with I'll be forever grateful for. Too much time wasted doing all of that LOL.

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posted July 07, 2014 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think "OMG".... But I do think it's a bit silly. If someone wants to... By all means. I won't.

The ONLY thing I'll ever use astrology for is to get a better understanding of my child. Just so that I can get on their level. Understand why they have certain feelings and react certain ways. A little of what their needs are but only to help with our relationship and to make them the best people I can.
That's about it... If they are a certain sign or have moon conjunct Mars and square Pluto.... Well then they do and I'll work with that. Understand that it's a part of them and if they are the kind of kid that needs some space... Then I'm for it.
If our synastry is messed up... Well I've overcome some obstacles in my own chart so I guess that's that.

Anyway.... Just that sort of thing.

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posted July 07, 2014 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It always backfires, we have no free-will when it comes to birth, death, and our natal charts. What is funny is that exalted planets don't mean good, just because you have the best chart in the world doesn't make you a great person.

But people are free to think what they want.

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posted July 07, 2014 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Comatoes:
It always backfires, we have no free-will when it comes to birth, death, and our natal charts. What is funny is that exalted planets don't mean good, just because you have the best chart in the world doesn't make you a great person.

But people are free to think what they want.


exactly and to all of what DF said lol.

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posted July 07, 2014 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would try to avoid giving my child tough angles by choosing the time I had a c- section.
Although I never did that, I would! I would want to avoid something like a moon in 12th or a bunch of squares to the their angles.

IMO, even if you go and plan that...then it's meant to be that way, you were meant to plan everything just as you did and all is exactly as it should be.
If something is destined, and I think your babies are very destined, you can't change it no matter how you go about making it happen. The way they are doing it is just a not so typical but it's still fulfilling destiny.

I would look at the couple, the ones who are planning their destiny with a calendar would probably be a cap and virgo couple and the ones who do it the more traditional way...get drunk and condom broke would be more of a gemini and a libra at a singles bar, or maybe a pisces and cancer who fell in love at first sight!

You can't change it, the way it happens is the way its suppose to happen, destiny is destiny.
The soul that is born to you, at the time it comes to you, is the one that's meant to be with you.
No matter how it happens or how much ppl think they are controlling destiny the universe is still the one guiding everything to ensure everyone gets exactly what is meant to be theirs.

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posted July 07, 2014 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, No. Let me know who is stupid enough to even consider that sh!te.

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posted July 07, 2014 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The funny thing is if you change destiny then it becomes your destiny that can't be changed.

Though it seems some people take offense at the idea. Is it for putting down a sign? Or is it sacrilege to think we have any control over our lives (so that birth control, etc, is all an illusion)?

I'll throw out that an occultist I knew did think that it was best to plan magical workings and open a business (so that the chart of the "birth" of the business mixed well with the community and had other auspicious placements), etc, taking astrology into account and that sounds similar as planning when to have a child.

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posted July 07, 2014 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will say that if I planned my pregnancy years ago I wouldn't have wanted a Cancer. Not because Cancers are bad but because I'd have thought they'd need a lot more reassurance than someone like me could give.

And yet now I'm helping to raise a Cancer and we're extremely close. There's no way I'd be worried about having a Cancer now, or any other sign for that matter.

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posted July 08, 2014 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I will say that if I planned my pregnancy years ago I wouldn't have wanted a Cancer. Not because Cancers are bad but because I'd have thought they'd need a lot more reassurance than someone like me could give.

And yet now I'm helping to raise a Cancer and we're extremely close. There's no way I'd be worried about having a Cancer now, or any other sign for that matter.


From the second I read the thread I thought "Probably not, except I would see if I could avoid Cancer".

Because I personally don't have the capacity to deal with their energy and it would be not good for a Cancer child to have me as their mother.

At the end of the day, I didn't have children and it's probably bordering on too late, so, it's not an issue.

Like Barbie said, you can only really target a sun sign. The rest... Sure you can choose to have a C section at a certain time, but you never know how the aspects would manifest. So I can't see the point.


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posted July 08, 2014 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do I think of them ? Astrology addicts.

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posted July 08, 2014 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my mother wanted me to be pisces, but i was born two months too early. a massive bummer, so to say

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posted July 08, 2014 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad and his ex-wife was into astrology, and they planned the date for my big brothers birth…and he is very successful, but I don't think it's in the way my dad imagined!
When it came to me, everything failed… my dad wanted me 4 years before I came out, so I think he gave up and just wanted a baby no matter when, and whoops then I popped out when the stars on the sky gave me the most difficult birth chart ever, so right from the start I was fated to have a sh**** life, not like my brother

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posted July 08, 2014 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:

IMO, even if you go and plan that...then it's meant to be that way, you were meant to plan everything just as you did and all is exactly as it should be.
If something is destined, and I think your babies are very destined, you can't change it no matter how you go about making it happen. The way they are doing it is just a not so typical but it's still fulfilling destiny.

You can't change it, the way it happens is the way its suppose to happen, destiny is destiny.
The soul that is born to you, at the time it comes to you, is the one that's meant to be with you.


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posted July 08, 2014 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even if they have desirable traits, i don't think you can control transits and progressions, so there is no such thing as a perfect human being.

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posted July 08, 2014 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be difficult to pick a moon day but you could aim for Aries sun no probs.

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posted July 08, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
I would try to avoid giving my child tough angles by choosing the time I had a c- section.
Although I never did that, I would! I would want to avoid something like a moon in 12th or a bunch of squares to the their angles.

IMO, even if you go and plan that...then it's meant to be that way, you were meant to plan everything just as you did and all is exactly as it should be.
If something is destined, and I think your babies are very destined, you can't change it no matter how you go about making it happen. The way they are doing it is just a not so typical but it's still fulfilling destiny.

I would look at the couple, the ones who are planning their destiny with a calendar would probably be a cap and virgo couple and the ones who do it the more traditional way...get drunk and condom broke would be more of a gemini and a libra at a singles bar, or maybe a pisces and cancer who fell in love at first sight!

You can't change it, the way it happens is the way its suppose to happen, destiny is destiny.
The soul that is born to you, at the time it comes to you, is the one that's meant to be with you.
No matter how it happens or how much ppl think they are controlling destiny the universe is still the one guiding everything to ensure everyone gets exactly what is meant to be theirs.


I agree, you can't change destiny. Everything is just as it should be, always.

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posted July 08, 2014 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I will say that if I planned my pregnancy years ago I wouldn't have wanted a Cancer. Not because Cancers are bad but because I'd have thought they'd need a lot more reassurance than someone like me could give.

And yet now I'm helping to raise a Cancer and we're extremely close. There's no way I'd be worried about having a Cancer now, or any other sign for that matter.


Haha! I am a Cancer Sun with a lot of Virgo. The signs I least understand are Sag and Aquarius. So, what did I get? One daughter as a six planet stellium in Sag, including Sun and Moon. The other has a six planet stellium in Aquarius including Sun and ASC (Moon in Sag). Sometimes they drive me crazy but we are learning from each other. We each benefit from the others energy. It all works out!

It would be extremely difficult to plan for a certain Moon or rising sign. I believe your children are already planned before you reincarnate and therefore, their charts are, too.

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posted July 08, 2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mareaire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless you're getting a planned c-section, and even then unexpected things can happen, it's pretty much impossible to aim for anything other than sun sign.

when i decided i wanted to have a baby i was like okay, I could do this right now and end up with a sag, but i thought i better think about the idea a bit more before just going ahead with it. And then i realized that if I waited two cycles i'd most likely end up with an aquarius. I LOVE aquas and it felt like it would be a good fit for our family. So that's what we did...aimed for an aqua and got a precious little aqua. he's amazing!

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posted July 08, 2014 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mareaire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so yea, I guess i feel like it's totally fine to aim for a sun sign. it's pretty much the same as thinking about when you'd want to be pregnant/have an infant...winter? or summer? do you want to wear bikinis and go swimming with your big belly? or do you want to nestle in by the fire place with a new born?

i think it's fine to consider all sorts of factors like that when planning to pro-create.

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posted July 08, 2014 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mareaire:
Unless you're getting a planned c-section, and even then unexpected things can happen, it's pretty much impossible to aim for anything other than sun sign.

when i decided i wanted to have a baby i was like okay, I could do this right now and end up with a sag, but i thought i better think about the idea a bit more before just going ahead with it. And then i realized that if I waited two cycles i'd most likely end up with an aquarius. I LOVE aquas and it felt like it would be a good fit for our family. So that's what we did...aimed for an aqua and got a precious little aqua. he's amazing!


As an Aqua, I highly approve of this message lolol.

At the end of the day you have to do whats best for the family.

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posted July 08, 2014 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:

It would be extremely difficult to plan for a certain Moon or rising sign. I believe your children are already planned before you reincarnate and therefore, their charts are, too.


I agree. My mom and dad didn't plan their pregnancy. And I was born from c section. My mom, dad, my grandma and I are all fixed square sun signs lol. Dad Leo. Mom Taurus. Grandma Scorpio. Me Aquarius. I include my grandma in the nuclear family because I grew up with her and knew her more than i ever knew my dad. But man oh man, I thought all families had this much tension! For some reason I feel like it's no coincidence were all squared sun signs... Also... We're are so incredibly stubborn!

Do you kids gave a blast with each other? I love sag people as friends seems like it would be amazing to have a sag sibling as an aqua!

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posted July 08, 2014 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
The funny thing is if you change destiny then it becomes your destiny that can't be changed.

Though it seems some people take offense at the idea. Is it for putting down a sign? Or is it sacrilege to think we have any control over our lives (so that birth control, etc, is all an illusion)?

I'll throw out that an occultist I knew did think that it was best to plan magical workings and open a business (so that the chart of the "birth" of the business mixed well with the community and had other auspicious placements), etc, taking astrology into account and that sounds similar as planning when to have a child.


It kinda gives me a twisty feeling in my stomach I can't really even begin to understand why, just feels kinda wrong to me personally.

It also poses questions like. What would the parent think if the kid turned out to be a sign that they didn't want? When the kid acts put would they be thinking in thier head "I love you but I wish you were born a Virgo not a Leo!" A lot of people seem to do that with their mates. Thinking that they will be better off with a more "compatible" sun sign. Though this is really with people that don't understand astrology enough but are still invested in it....

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mareaire
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posted July 08, 2014 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mareaire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i definitely would not have been disappointed if mine turned out to be something other than aqua.

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