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Topic: What is Truth, and What is God?
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PixieJane
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posted July 11, 2016 07:29 PM
  
I almost placed this in another thread, but thought it would probably go best in its own. It's from a scifi perspective, but I thought it quite brilliant all the same:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjnpTcvGvts IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted July 12, 2016 09:19 AM
I'm not sure I've ever heard a meaning for truth that I like more."truth is a river" IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted July 12, 2016 09:20 AM
Is this from one of the Treks?IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted July 12, 2016 02:43 PM
It's from a series called Babylon 5, no affiliation with the Trek shows (though it aired when many of the Star Trek spinoffs did).It had some new age elements to it. There was a war in which Earth was losing badly, but just as all seemed lost the victorious conquerors suddenly pulled back and called for peace without saying why. As the aliens could've demanded Earth's unconditional surrender and likely gotten it, humans embraced the peace treaty offered them which was quite generous and it was a mystery to humans why this happened. It got revealed in the series that it was because the victorious aliens, who were very spiritual, somehow came to believe that at least some humans were the reincarnation of their own species, and from then on they didn't want to kill humans anymore than they killed each other (and believed humanity could be taught to be better than it was). IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted July 17, 2016 08:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
It's from a series called Babylon 5, no affiliation with the Trek shows (though it aired when many of the Star Trek spinoffs did).It had some new age elements to it. There was a war in which Earth was losing badly, but just as all seemed lost the victorious conquerors suddenly pulled back and called for peace without saying why. As the aliens could've demanded Earth's unconditional surrender and likely gotten it, humans embraced the peace treaty offered them which was quite generous and it was a mystery to humans why this happened. It got revealed in the series that it was because the victorious aliens, who were very spiritual, somehow came to believe that at least some humans were the reincarnation of their own species, and from then on they didn't want to kill humans anymore than they killed each other (and believed humanity could be taught to be better than it was).
Whoa! That is one wild storyline!!
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Sulkyarcher
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posted July 17, 2016 08:35 AM
What is truth? Truth is when you speak from your heart, and you don't fall away from it.God is the interconnectedness of all things. But that's just me. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 18, 2016 10:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
It's from a series called Babylon 5, no affiliation with the Trek shows (though it aired when many of the Star Trek spinoffs did).It had some new age elements to it. There was a war in which Earth was losing badly, but just as all seemed lost the victorious conquerors suddenly pulled back and called for peace without saying why. As the aliens could've demanded Earth's unconditional surrender and likely gotten it, humans embraced the peace treaty offered them which was quite generous and it was a mystery to humans why this happened. It got revealed in the series that it was because the victorious aliens, who were very spiritual, somehow came to believe that at least some humans were the reincarnation of their own species, and from then on they didn't want to kill humans anymore than they killed each other (and believed humanity could be taught to be better than it was).
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Randall
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posted August 20, 2016 06:18 PM
Sounds a little like the tv show, V. Also like Earth, The Final Destination.IP: Logged |
Valentine
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posted August 20, 2016 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
What is truth? Truth is when you speak from your heart, and you don't fall away from it.God is the interconnectedness of all things. But that's just me.
I like this definition. IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted August 20, 2016 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by Valentine:
I like this definition.
TY! IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 21, 2016 03:46 PM
Seconded.IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted August 24, 2016 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Seconded.
TY, too. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 25, 2016 10:18 AM
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Lexxigramer
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posted November 04, 2016 09:44 PM
Truth is irrefutable fact.
That which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
Impossible to deny or disprove.
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Randall
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posted November 05, 2016 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Truth is irrefutable fact.
That which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
Impossible to deny or disprove.
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Randall
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posted November 06, 2016 01:57 PM
But many unproven facts can still be truths.IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted November 06, 2016 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
But many unproven facts can still be truths.
How?
A fact is a fact and therefore truth;
unless it is a lie or a fallacy as in for example;
"a flat Earth" and so forth.
In that case was a
fact" in the mind of people who did not prove nor at the time disprove what was thought of as fact but as we know, was not.Unproven denotes an untruth, or a at best a speculation and or theory or hypotheses. quote:
What is a Hypothesis?A hypothesis is an "educated guess." It can be an educated guess about what nature is going to do, or about why nature does what it does. "Hypotheses are single tentative guesses--good hunches--assumed for use in devising theory or planning experiment, intended to be given a direct experimental test when possible." (Eric M. Rogers, "Physics for the Inquiring Mind." (Princeton University Press, Princeton, NJ, 1966)
What makes a statement a scientific hypothesis, rather than just an interesting speculation? A scientific hypothesis must meet 2 requirements: A scientific hypothesis must be testable, and;
A scientific hypothesis must be falsifiable. http://www.batesville.k12.in.us/physics/phynet/aboutscience/hypotheses.html
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fact
fakt/Submit
noun
a thing that is indisputably the case.
"she lacks political experience—a fact that becomes clear when she appears in public"
synonyms:
reality, actuality, certainty; truth, verity,
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Randall
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posted November 09, 2016 04:11 PM
Some things are facts but are unproven. For example, one lone doctor claimed that ulcers were caused by a bacterium. He was chastised and made a laughing stock among the medical community. But after quite some time, he was proven to be correct. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 10, 2016 03:01 PM
So, it was a fact, but it was not accepted as such.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 11, 2016 01:02 PM
I will ry to think of other examples. But for the most part, I agree with you.IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted November 11, 2016 04:48 PM
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mirage29
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posted November 11, 2016 07:08 PM
That youtube was my first introduction to Babylon 5. I watched a few other scenes.Interesting! I saw the one about 'the ant' picked up on a finger, then dropped off onto another flower. How we cannot at all fathom the complexities of 'What's out there'... It's way beyond our ability to grok. That one haunted me all day. [2:48] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahYNYW484Vc IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted November 11, 2016 09:47 PM
^^Yeah, that's probably my favorite B5 scene! IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 12, 2016 10:02 AM
So cool!IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 13, 2016 02:39 PM
Ants.IP: Logged |
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