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odalix Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted January 21, 2024 12:41 PM
My daughter has a very close and childhood friend who ghosted her for no apparent reason;my daughter tried to call her twice and never received a call back or explanation. Needless to say ,she's really upset.The friend is a sagitarrius with a scorpio moon.Do sagitarrians act this way?IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9002 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 21, 2024 02:16 PM
it could be the Scorpio moon. I have that, and I will sometimes ghost people w/o giving them an explanation. not always though. ALSO Pluto moved into Aquarius yesterday I think!? Yesterday my sister found out her triple Aquarius daughter has been getting bullied at school. This could be a powerful time for school aged children to figure out where they fit in. I mean I feel that will always be a theme with growing up, but it might be that much more intense with Pluto in the sign of social groups. I'm sorry that happened to your daughter she must be super hurt. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9002 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 21, 2024 02:18 PM
Oh I also have Sagittarius DC...and lately I ghost men or don't keep the conversation going if I am not interested or feel too much pressure. IP: Logged |
odalix Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted January 21, 2024 02:38 PM
Thanks for answering. Yes, she is super hurt and doesn't understand why.I read that Pluto shifted into Aqua for a few months last year( this is when it happened) and now Pluto has moved into Aqua (sign of my daughter's 7th house). So I guess one finds out who one's friends really are( or something happened). It's just strange as they were really close and each knew each others innermost lives.They're both in their 30's so it's confusing to her as it was a long term relationship. IP: Logged |
Preppyarcher7989Wiff Knowflake Posts: 55 From: United States Registered: Jan 2024
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posted January 21, 2024 04:04 PM
I am not a typical Sagittarius. I don't act this way. But, I also have Venus in Scorpio conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, so I don't mind the intensity of a friendship!Personally some Sagittarius can act like this. And not always because of some moral high ground: They can be politely selfish. As for your daughter and the friend who ghosted her I wonder if it had to do with Pluto transitting your daughter's 7th house? I wonder if a boy was involved between the two of them? Perhaps the friend saw your daughter close to a boy she liked, and the friend wasn't able to communicate it out, properly. And so she ghosted your daughter. ------------------ Happiness is easy to find. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9913 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 21, 2024 07:57 PM
I have a Sag stellium and I wouldn't do this.However, I'd be tempted, because my giving an explanation on why I'm cutting ties with someone can lead to really childish, vindictive, nasty rumor spreading, and even violent behavior. And ghosting is so common, just as flaking (and expecting you to figure it out) is, so why not do it myself? But someone I've texted for years would get an explanation. Perhaps someone else is making them. Though no one could make me without resorting to criminal or tyrannical means, and even then it's not certain. But too many others are spineless. I even know a Cancer male who served in the military who ghosted me after several years because his new wife (who I supported him in marrying) made him. (My attitude is that if he's that spineless, to hell with him, and also his insecure wife.) Another possibility is that this person is injured or sick or dead. They may have also lost their phone in one way or another. Unless this person is seen texting others normally, I'd have to wonder. It's now very hard to use even a public computer to talk to someone without a phone, and the phones themselves are so problematic in so many ways (even when they work right and don't lost, stolen, glitched, or hacked) that I don't understand why people insist on such masochism, looking to me more like lemmings running off a cliff following another in thinking they're necessary. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 26469 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 21, 2024 08:05 PM
My mum wouldn’t. If she stopped speaking to you, it was very clear why. She only ghosted a sociopath, as far as I can remember. He tracked her down, and she only spoke to him once, when he called our new number. I don’t know if she deals with depression. That might cause someone to withdraw. It could be something political, but I would expect best friends to say something first. Not just disappear. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 7870 From: ‐♡‐ ℳℴℴ𝓃,𝒮𝓊𝓃 &𝒮𝓉𝒶𝓇𝓈 -♡- Registered: Nov 2016
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posted January 21, 2024 08:15 PM
To be thorough, I've dated, friended, been a daughter to and carry my own Sagittarius energy. I'll be brutally honest. Sag lacks tact, often and if they feel a need to leave, usually something will be said. Like someone mentioned the moon, it could be the scorpio moon but .. I'll say look at the shadow side of sag. If this person isn't behaving healthy, mentally speaking. They might be operating the upside down. Their shadow gemini, infamous for the art of ghosting. Taking some transits into account too. Could this person have pluto energy transits that might bulldoze with a whisper? IP: Logged |
Preppyarcher7989Wiff Knowflake Posts: 55 From: United States Registered: Jan 2024
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posted January 21, 2024 09:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: My mum wouldn’t. If she stopped speaking to you, it was very clear why. She only ghosted a sociopath, as far as I can remember. He tracked her down, and she only spoke to him once, when he called our new number. I don’t know if she deals with depression. That might cause someone to withdraw. It could be something political, but I would expect best friends to say something first. Not just disappear.
Sociopathy or Psychopathy is a legitimate reason to ghost someone! ------------------ Happiness is easy to find. IP: Logged |
Preppyarcher7989Wiff Knowflake Posts: 55 From: United States Registered: Jan 2024
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posted January 22, 2024 01:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: I have a Sag stellium and I wouldn't do this.However, I'd be tempted, because my giving an explanation on why I'm cutting ties with someone can lead to really childish, vindictive, nasty rumor spreading, and even violent behavior. And ghosting is so common, just as flaking (and expecting you to figure it out) is, so why not do it myself? But someone I've texted for years would get an explanation. Perhaps someone else is making them. Though no one could make me without resorting to criminal or tyrannical means, and even then it's not certain. But too many others are spineless. I even know a Cancer male who served in the military who ghosted me after several years because his new wife (who I supported him in marrying) made him. (My attitude is that if he's that spineless, to hell with him, and also his insecure wife.) Another possibility is that this person is injured or sick or dead. They may have also lost their phone in one way or another. Unless this person is seen texting others normally, I'd have to wonder. It's now very hard to use even a public computer to talk to someone without a phone, and the phones themselves are so problematic in so many ways (even when they work right and don't lost, stolen, glitched, or hacked) that I don't understand why people insist on such masochism, looking to me more like lemmings running off a cliff following another in thinking they're necessary.
The wife probably saw you as a threat or she was afraid that he was going to cheat. Back to Astrology; Us Sagittarius (me included) have a bad habit of being too friendly and talkative to people, and other people can see that as being too friendly!
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 26469 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 22, 2024 02:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff: Sociopathy or Psychopathy is a legitimate reason to ghost someone!
It definitely is. he ghosted her a lot, and would then show up, pretending to be sorry. That’s the least-awful thing he did to her. I had a recurring nightmare about him for years. He claimed to be a Virgo, but he had two (different) passports, and was just untrustworthy in general. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 26469 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 22, 2024 02:12 AM
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odalix Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted January 22, 2024 04:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: I have a Sag stellium and I wouldn't do this.However, I'd be tempted, because my giving an explanation on why I'm cutting ties with someone can lead to really childish, vindictive, nasty rumor spreading, and even violent behavior. And ghosting is so common, just as flaking (and expecting you to figure it out) is, so why not do it myself? But someone I've texted for years would get an explanation. Perhaps someone else is making them. Though no one could make me without resorting to criminal or tyrannical means, and even then it's not certain. But too many others are spineless. I even know a Cancer male who served in the military who ghosted me after several years because his new wife (who I supported him in marrying) made him. (My attitude is that if he's that spineless, to hell with him, and also his insecure wife.) Another possibility is that this person is injured or sick or dead. They may have also lost their phone in one way or another. Unless this person is seen texting others normally, I'd have to wonder. It's now very hard to use even a public computer to talk to someone without a phone, and the phones themselves are so problematic in so many ways (even when they work right and don't lost, stolen, glitched, or hacked) that I don't understand why people insist on such masochism, looking to me more like lemmings running off a cliff following another in thinking they're necessary.
My daughter found out that the friend is in contact with other girlfriends so she's okay at least physically( not ill or harmed).It may have to do with a new high profile relationship that my daughter's friend has.Reading all your replies, I'm taking into account that this friend may be going through some sort of pressure or is overwhelmed or has been asked not to further their relationship.It's just sad for my daughter. IP: Logged |
Preppyarcher7989Wiff Knowflake Posts: 55 From: United States Registered: Jan 2024
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posted January 22, 2024 04:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: It definitely is. he ghosted her a lot, and would then show up, pretending to be sorry. That’s the least-awful thing he did to her. I had a recurring nightmare about him for years. He claimed to be a Virgo, but he had two (different) passports, and was just untrustworthy in general.
Perhaps he was a shadow Virgo that liked to play mind (Mercury) games! Like he likes to lure you in then not give you the time of day! ------------------ Happiness is easy to find. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 7870 From: ‐♡‐ ℳℴℴ𝓃,𝒮𝓊𝓃 &𝒮𝓉𝒶𝓇𝓈 -♡- Registered: Nov 2016
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posted January 22, 2024 09:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff: Perhaps he was a shadow Virgo that liked to play mind (Mercury) games! Like he likes to lure you in then not give you the time of day!
You're on to something, in tarot virgo is the hermit. He goes into the deep woods to be alone, untouchable. A ghoster might be hermit in some way. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 26469 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 22, 2024 09:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by MoonMystic: You're on to something, in tarot virgo is the hermit. He goes into the deep woods to be alone, untouchable. A ghoster might be hermit in some way.
This guy was involved with seven other women, that she knew of. He ended up running off with a wealthy woman, who left her husband and daughter for him. He was just a grifter, unfortunately. A sociopathic grifter. But I could see it for other people. I need my own space, a lot of the time. I have a sixth house sun. IP: Logged |
sashavittoria Knowflake Posts: 684 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 24, 2024 02:29 PM
I've been ghosted by Scorpio moons before. A close friend of mine has that placement and she's extremely loyal but once she flips on someone, she flips hard and cuts them out without remorse. It's a very black-and-white lunar placement I think, at least when it's immature/unevolved.But others are right, there could be a lot at play here. IP: Logged |
rockwell Knowflake Posts: 122 From: Mars ♈︎ Registered: Sep 2021
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posted January 25, 2024 04:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by odalix: My daughter has a very close and childhood friend who ghosted her for no apparent reason;my daughter tried to call her twice and never received a call back or explanation. Needless to say ,she's really upset.The friend is a sagitarrius with a scorpio moon.Do sagitarrians act this way?
Where is his Chiron? Does it form a conjunction to your daughters planets? Where is Mars? Can you post a chart of your daughters friend? My beloved cousin is a Sagittarius and they do not ghost. Sagittarius have an opinion and are not afraid to tell you exactly what they think and how they feel. I would also suspect the Scorpio moon. I was ghosted once and it hurt so bad. The human brain wasn't made for ghosting. We need closure and we like behaviors that are predictable. With ghosting that's impossible. I don't think it was your daughters fault. She doesn't deserve a friend who treats her so poorly. I hope she doesent blame herself.
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rockwell Knowflake Posts: 122 From: Mars ♈︎ Registered: Sep 2021
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posted January 25, 2024 04:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by sashavittoria: I've been ghosted by Scorpio moons before. A close friend of mine has that placement and she's extremely loyal but once she flips on someone, she flips hard and cuts them out without remorse. It's a very black-and-white lunar placement I think, at least when it's immature/unevolved.But others are right, there could be a lot at play here.
The thing with Scorpio moons is that they are rarely balanced. I often see Scorpio moons getting involved with Taurus suns or moons because Taurus is the most predictable and stable placement and can make them feel more secure. I agree that it's a very black and white lunar placement. IP: Logged |
sashavittoria Knowflake Posts: 684 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 25, 2024 07:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by rockwell: The thing with Scorpio moons is that they are rarely balanced. I often see Scorpio moons getting involved with Taurus suns or moons because Taurus is the most predictable and stable placement and can make them feel more secure. I agree that it's a very black and white lunar placement.
Funny you say that, because I am a Taurus! The opposition is helpful, yes. I think they feel more secure with us. My friend who cuts people out remorselessly is a Taurus sun/Scorpio moon/Taurus Mercury. She feels the opposition quite strongly, and I think the double-fixed nature makes her unusually stubborn and contributes to the black-and-white attitude. I adore her though. IP: Logged |
Preppyarcher7989Wiff Knowflake Posts: 55 From: United States Registered: Jan 2024
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posted January 25, 2024 09:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by rockwell: Where is his Chiron? Does it form a conjunction to your daughters planets? Where is Mars? Can you post a chart of your daughters friend? My beloved cousin is a Sagittarius and they do not ghost. Sagittarius have an opinion and are not afraid to tell you exactly what they think and how they feel. I would also suspect the Scorpio moon. I was ghosted once and it hurt so bad. The human brain wasn't made for ghosting. We need closure and we like behaviors that are predictable. With ghosting that's impossible. I don't think it was your daughters fault. She doesn't deserve a friend who treats her so poorly. I hope she doesent blame herself.
I can definitely see a Sagittarius ghosting! It could be a Sagittarius feels too suffocated then ghosts, because it feels the other person is being to pushy. ------------------ Happiness is easy to find. IP: Logged |
odalix Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted January 27, 2024 06:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by rockwell: Where is his Chiron? Does it form a conjunction to your daughters planets? Where is Mars? Can you post a chart of your daughters friend? My beloved cousin is a Sagittarius and they do not ghost. Sagittarius have an opinion and are not afraid to tell you exactly what they think and how they feel. I would also suspect the Scorpio moon. I was ghosted once and it hurt so bad. The human brain wasn't made for ghosting. We need closure and we like behaviors that are predictable. With ghosting that's impossible. I don't think it was your daughters fault. She doesn't deserve a friend who treats her so poorly. I hope she doesent blame herself.
I don't have the friend's full astrological data such as birth time.Thanks for suggesting this though.It just seems very weird.I did read on here in a post I found in search here on Lindaland that sagitarrius can sometimes forget old friends and likes to live in the here and now ( their current group they're surrounded with) My daughter's friend had moved far away so it may be just a new life( even though they were in constant contact). IP: Logged |
odalix Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted January 27, 2024 06:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff: I can definitely see a Sagittarius ghosting! It could be a Sagittarius feels too suffocated then ghosts, because it feels the other person is being to pushy.
I'll take this into consideration however, my daughter and said friend now don't live in the same country anymore( but kept in contact) so I don't see where the "pushy" could come from or why my daughter would be seen as pushy. Go figure. IP: Logged |
odalix Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted January 27, 2024 06:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by rockwell: The thing with Scorpio moons is that they are rarely balanced. I often see Scorpio moons getting involved with Taurus suns or moons because Taurus is the most predictable and stable placement and can make them feel more secure. I agree that it's a very black and white lunar placement.
My daughter is a Taurus sun,Pisces moon and Leo Rising.yes, scorpio moons can be very black and white but they're also deep and loyal so therefore the confusion.There was no fight or any kind of misunderstanding on their last contact.just weird. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 2459 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted January 28, 2024 09:25 PM
Check jealousy. IP: Logged |