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posted December 06, 2012 11:59 AM            

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homosexuality*

My lesbian friend was asking me astrology and relationships etc. I was looking at her chart, It just hit me! Would Venus be the significator for a lesbians and Mars for a gay men? The roles are reversed in a way.

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posted December 06, 2012 12:10 PM            

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I think so.

Sun harsh aspects to Moon
Venus harsh aspects to Mars

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posted December 06, 2012 12:10 PM            

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Oh and Sun/Venus/Mars aspects (usually harsh) to Uranus or Neptune lol

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posted December 06, 2012 09:41 PM            

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Just curious, but what would you say might be the significator for bisexuals?

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posted December 06, 2012 09:59 PM            

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http://www.angelfire.com/sd/binah/bisexuality.html

I found some interesting articles on sexuality and astrology here

"The significator for bisexuality is written mercury/Desc. It fact it occurs as mercury, ruling either a 5th, 7th, or 8th house (I don't know why 8th is included in this significator but not in the other second parts), conjunct the Descendant, or mercury ruling a 5th, 7th or 8th house and made Angular by any one of the four Angles of the chart. Or, mercury in a 5th or 7th (8th?) house and made Angular by any of the four Angles of this method. The acceptable orb for mercury/Angle, again, is 4°, rather than the standard 2°, because these charts are un-rectified."

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posted December 06, 2012 10:24 PM            

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Kerosene, that's a really interesting link you found. I'm going to be there all night!

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posted December 07, 2012 02:53 AM            

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I'm straight but I say nope.

Gay and lez are born with it 90% through DNA unless they were raped or molested so their confused.

But no.
Astrology doesn't tell u if your black white mexican or even your homosexually, just your personality

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posted December 07, 2012 06:18 AM            

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I'm a gay guy. My Mars in Aries is opposition Uranus in Libra. My Scorpio sun squares Aquarian moon.

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posted December 07, 2012 12:00 PM            

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Welcome!

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posted December 07, 2012 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpAqua:
I'm a gay guy. My Mars in Aries is opposition Uranus in Libra. My Scorpio sun squares Aquarian moon.

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Come on didn't I just say Sun-Moon Mars-Uranus harsh aspects?? Hehe...

Sun square Moon for conflict between masculinity and feminity, Mars opposite Uranus for desire for unconvential things

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posted December 07, 2012 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by JLyn ~:

Astrology doesn't tell u if your black white mexican or even your homosexually, just your personality

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I agree 110% with you JLyn.

However I checked the natal charts of 3 gay friends of mine and here are the results:

Two of them have Mercury conjunct Venus
Two of them have Sun conjunct Venus
Two of them have Saturn square Pluto

I have only listed the common aspects between their charts!

@KarkaQueen Only one of them has Sun square Moon, and none of them Mars/Uranus.

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posted December 07, 2012 02:17 PM            

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The gay friends I have the aspects I listed above.. bisexuals have slightly different aspects

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posted December 07, 2012 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
I agree 110% with you JLyn.

However I checked the natal charts of 3 gay friends of mine and here are the results:

Two of them have Mercury conjunct Venus
Two of them have Sun conjunct Venus
Two of them have Saturn square Pluto

I have only listed the common aspects between their charts!

@KarkaQueen Only one of them has Sun square Moon, and none of them Mars/Uranus.

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Dont have mercury venus or sun conjunct venus or saturn square pluto....still gay...

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posted December 08, 2012 12:14 AM            

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Originally posted by JLyn ~:
I'm straight but I say nope.

Gay and lez are born with it 90% through DNA unless they were raped or molested so their confused.

But no.
Astrology doesn't tell u if your black white mexican or even your homosexually, just your personality

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LOL I asked for the significator of homosexuals and lesbians. I did not ask what causes homosexuality. Homosexual and Lesbians do exist so they must have their own significators. Why would one look at venus for a man who's attracted to other men. Venus is a feminine planet, it deals with women in your life, that would be illogical.

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posted December 08, 2012 12:32 AM            

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I'm a gay male, and I don't have any aspects between my Sun or Mars and Neptune/Uranus. And Neptune/Uranus are actually both conjunct my Venus, not in opposition. I don't have any of the other aspects listed in this thread either.

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posted December 08, 2012 12:45 AM            

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^ I don't think aspects cause homosexuality...

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posted December 08, 2012 01:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
^ I don't think aspects cause homosexuality...

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And I agree...I was responding to those who said that they believe that they do.

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posted December 08, 2012 03:24 AM            

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I'm a straight female and I have Venus sq Uranus

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posted December 09, 2012 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I think so.

Sun harsh aspects to Moon
Venus harsh aspects to Mars

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Nope. My sun has no aspects to the moon, and there are no aspects between my venus and mars either. Many astrologers have done their research, and were unable to narrow down one's sexuality to astrological aspects.

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posted December 09, 2012 08:51 PM            

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While I wouldn't rule out SUBTLE influences from an astrological perspective, I just can't believe there's a major significator. If there was, there'd be a lot more gay people, and as many people are born on record today astrologers would've found it by now.

Or put another way, you can look at a room full of infants at a maternity ward (such as the one your lesbian friend was likely in as an infant) where they pretty much share the same natal chart, and chances are one or more of them will be gay (just like one or more will be left handed), but the vast majority will not...always. Now those hypothetical subtle influence I'm willing to consider might add or subtract those destined for such an orientation (or left handedness) by one or more (or perhaps make one more bi or ambidextrous when they otherwise wouldn't be), but it still strikes me as overall insignificant.

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posted December 10, 2012 02:43 AM            

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^I agree with this. Actually all I was asking was would I look at her venus or mars for relationships? I don't know why people decided to bring up aspects haha

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posted January 06, 2013 02:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
^ I don't think aspects cause homosexuality...

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Although, certain aspects might offer a person the ability to be open about their bisexuality or homosexuality. (Or sexuality in general!).

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posted January 06, 2013 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Although, certain aspects might offer a person the ability to be open about their bisexuality or homosexuality. (Or sexuality in general!).

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Ehh Think certain aspects might make one open minded sexually or progressive, that has nothing to do with someones sexual orientation. You are somewhat right thou. Not all homosexuals are open minded. I know a gay couple that are against anal sex, they think its unnatural and wrong.

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posted January 06, 2013 03:58 PM            

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I think it just comes down to the individual. Venus and Mars may attribute to femininity or masculinity, but I don't believe they determine the general attraction of specific gendered/sexually preferenced people. There just too many gay and lesbian people out there who are attracted to fem guys or butch women. In fact I know a few straight folks who have similar attractions.

I haven never been a fan of Venus and Mars signifying anything other than "someone's values" and "someone's method of maintaining those values". If anything, it may indicate how our genders manifest and how we desire our partner's genders to fit with ours.

For example, My Venus is in Scorpio and Mars is in Leo. These two signs are sort of extreme feminine and extreme masculine. I am generally attracted to women who have a Leonine brilliance and backbone, but a Scorpion concept of reality and a dark or edgy beauty. In men I seek very masculine guys with big, warm, hearts, and dynamic personalities, but I also want them to have a vulnerable side and a passionate sexuality which they exclusively share with me. I think the only "traditional" attraction I have is the desire to be the sexually dominant partner with women (for the most part) and the desire to be the sexually receptive partner with men (for the most part). I wonder if the roles are reversed for those with masculine Venus and feminine Mars, regardless of physical gender or preference.

Preference-wise I consider myself a gay man with bi-attraction (similar to how straight women can find other women attractive, but not need to run off and get married). And I definitely see both Venus and Mars playing significant roles in my attractions to both genders.

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posted January 06, 2013 04:28 PM            

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Ehh Think certain aspects might make one open minded sexually or progressive, that has nothing to do with someones sexual orientation. You are somewhat right thou. Not all homosexuals are open minded. I know a gay couple that are against anal sex, they think its unnatural and wrong.

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I meant open like willing to "come out" to family / friends... not kink. Entirely different subject.

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