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vesta
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posted July 22, 2009 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
I read somewhere through another astrologer that Johnny could possibly see his true soul mate his one and only.
It was at the time I was thinking of going to see him on set of that movie
Do you think it is possible?

His draco venus conjunct my draco pluto 0.03

his draco valentine conjunct my draco valentine 0 degree

my 9th harmonic johnny conjunct his 1st harmonic (natal) ASC 0 degree
his 9th harmonic jenny conjunct my 1st harmonic (natal) sun 0 degree.
remember that the 9th describes your soulmate!

My ASC (tropical) conjunct his MC (tropical) 0 degree.

his Innanen conjunct my adonis 1 degree (tropical)

plus all the other connections?
it may be a while for me to get back in touch any suggestions on what else to look for?
Do you think it is possible?

Plus the my eros(conjunct) his Iris square his Psyche (conjunct) my Iris in the tropical.

And his eros square my ASC
My eros conjunct his ASc

I know that he is a soulmate in some form according to God / Heaven I just wonder if it is possible about the one and only thing? They called him my brother and me his sister so I just don't know.

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vesta
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posted July 22, 2009 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
His draco venus conjunct his trop Jenny (0.01)
My draco pluto conjunct his draco venus (0.03)
My draco pluto conjunct his trop jenny (0.02)
My draco pluto conjunct his trop cupido (2)
my dr pluto conjunct his trop Eros (3)
his trop eros opp my draco sun (0)
his draco desiderata conjunct my trop valentine (0)
his trop amore conjunct my trop sun (2)
his trop mars conjunct my draco venus(2)
My draco lust conjunct his trop MC (0)
His trop uranus conjunct my draco ASC (0)
his trop mars conjunct my draco ASC (3)
My draco Johnny conjunct his trop ASC (0)
my draco johnny conjunct his trop valentine (0)
his draco valentine trine my trop valentine (0)
his draco valentine conjunct my trop chiron (0)
his trop desiderata conjunct my trop Chiron (0)
His draco jennifer conjunct my trop vertex (0)
his draco cupid conjunct my trop vertex (2)
his draco eros conjunct my trop vertex (3)
his trop moon conjunct my draco moon (5)
his draco moon conjunct my trop moon (1)
his draco eros opp my trop psyche (4)
his draco jupiter conjunct my trop valentine (0)


Draco to draco

His draco jenny opp my draco sun (3)
His draco venus opp my draco sun (3)
His draco amore opp my draco sun (5)
His draco amore conjunct my draco Pluto (2)
His draco jenny conjunct my draco moon.(0.29)
his draco valentine conjunct my draco valentine (0)
His draco sun conjunct my draco Uranus in Aquarius (0)
His draco vertex conjunct my draco venus (0)
His draco Chiron conjunct my draco Aura and Karma (2)
His draco moria conjunct my draco moon (0)
His draco lust conjunct my draco amore (0)
His draco psyche conjunct my draco moon (0)
His trop moria conjunct my trop venus (2) and my trop juno (0)

(I didn’t include the trop to trop just too much to enter right now)

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posted July 22, 2009 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks to DD's and Comica's research, we are aware of Soul Groups being Astrologically shown. One and only Soulmate is something that is difficult to prove.

I would look for DNA aspects to Karma, Saturn as well as tight interlinking of Soulmate Pair Asteroids. You have been given a clue of Brother and Sister. Check for strong sibling myths and thse Asteroids. Check for interlinks to APOLLO and ARTEMIS.
Example: See if Your Spirit conj his ARTEMIS and his KARMA conjunct your APOLLO etc.

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comica23
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posted July 22, 2009 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
iQ, without your insights I wouldn't really be able to determine the valuable astrological evidences of belonging in the same soul group. X3

Hmm regarding to this thread I want to ask, how relevant is the 9th harmonic chart about the soulmates connections? Should we compare two people's 9th harmonic charts, or compare each of their 9th harmonic chart to another's natal chart?
I know that the 9th harmonic chart is based on noviles, but I'm not really sure how this chart is drawn and also it's further meaning. ^_^; (basically I don't even know much about the harmonic charts since I didn't really use them before ^_^; so if someone can shed some light)

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vesta
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posted July 22, 2009 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you IQ,

sibling myths - I will have to check those
I know that my draco Osiri is conjunct his natal sun and his draco isis is conjunct my natal moon. As they were brother and sister
Maybe that is one you think?

his karma sextile my karma either 0 or 1 degree

My DNA conjunct his IC.
His DNA conjunct my NN.

I will have to look at Artemis and Apollo.


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vesta
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posted July 22, 2009 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
Comica23,
I think it just more or less describes the situation in greater detail. After looking closer at the one for my age and my husbands age for the year.

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DD
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posted July 22, 2009 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I would look for conjunctions / Oppositions between DNA, True Node, Karma, Saturn, Spirit, Angel and IC or those objects to Sun, Moon, ASC. as well.

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vesta
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posted July 23, 2009 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you,
I will take a closer look when I get back from vacation soon.


his DNA conjunct my NN
My DNA conjunct his IC
His IC opp my ASC
MY angel conjunct his moon.

That is what I have from memory.

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DD
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posted July 23, 2009 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Vesta,

the linking seems fairly strong with DNA in aspect to NN and IC, also the DC-IC-conjunction.
As this is the family axis and the point of relationship, it indeed points to you being of one "soulfamily".
Now it would be interesting to see which soulmate pairs are interconnected.

IQ,

I noticed that my spirit is conjunct Jude`s Kaali and Parvati, and that his Spirit is conjunct my Siva (both being at about 2 - 2 and a half degree).

Would that confirm that Siva-Kaali-theme you found in the relationship charts?


Also, if I wanted to interpret it, would be something like:

He or his soul (his Spirit) embodies (conjunction) Siva (my Siva) to me, or qualities that are traditionally associated with Siva?

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Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone I have nothing to add to this but just dropping a note to say I am fascinated and keeping tuned on all the asteroid developments.

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Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
IQ was looking at different synatsries and I had a look at ours... pretty cool stuff!
Your Osiris/Isis conjunction exact!

This is conjunct my talent and isis, opposite my DNA and square angel/horus conunction. I thought that might have some meaning especially because your North node conjuncts my Pluto and spirit/Dna trine my ascendant.

I think we have a spiritual connection!

Vesta,DD, Comica do you mind if I explore our charts also?

One more thing I have seen lots and lots of Dna conjunct, trine or opposed to my ascendant from members of my family, my partner and children.

Do you think the ascendant could be added to the list determining soul groups?

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DD
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posted July 23, 2009 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Quinnie,

do you mean he was looking at your and my synastry? Cause I do have Isis conjunct Osiris exact.


Yes, of course, I think ASC can absolutely be counted.


DNA seems to be very significant, too.

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Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
No I meant mine and Iq's. I got some birth his birth info from the astrology forum and he has done a reading for me so I thought I'd look at our synastry.
Can I have your info... (I'll post mine too if ya want ofcourse).

I have a very wide conjunction with isis 29 Leo/Osiris 21 Leo.
Horus squares this at 27 scorpio and my DNa is at 27 Aquarius
Which then squares my Draco ascendant at 27 Taurus which is why I think there is significane to it all.

DD I know your Sun is at 26 Sagittarius so straight away there is by degree we are def connected too... My Sun is at 25 Libra.

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posted July 23, 2009 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Quinnie, one of the common points of my soul group is around 27ºdegrees Taurus/Scorpio! X3 And you know what, I have draco Alma at 26º39' Leo and draco DNA at 29º52' Aquarius. XP

my info is: 23rd March 1985 - 16:15 - Macau (China)

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Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
jeez Comica there are plently connections alright... My D.O.B. 18th Oct 1980 06:59, Belfast, Northern Ireland, Uk

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DD
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posted July 23, 2009 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
My Birth is

18th december 1974
7:07 a.m. (yes, the data is correct; my mum remembered it, it is on my birthcertificate, and when I rectified it, it also fit, so yes, it is 7:07 and coincidentally my name number is a 7, too, calcualted by the normal alphabet, not the Cheiro one).

Viersen / Germany (ASC is on 07°01 Sagittarius; well, it would have been perfect if it had been on 7°07 now, wouldn`t it? )


EDIT:

I have Sekhmet, Reiki and Circe on 27 Sagittarius; ARtemis on 27 Pisces, and DRaco ASC, Angel, Atlantis on 27 Pisces, too.

my true BML is on 28 Aquarius. And as I mentioned Valentine on 27 Scorpio.

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vesta
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posted July 24, 2009 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
Comica and DD,
The work you have done facinates me.
Could you post the aspects you have used to determine soul family
or show me where posted in the past as I have missed so much recently.

DD, don't forget the arabic points - johnny and I hit each others points of siblings and family as well as reincarnation.

I wish there were a way to determine what level of soulmate I am thinking that is tucked away in the harmonics somewhere. Maybe the ninth as it is supposed to relate to truth.

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posted July 24, 2009 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, I am not so convinced the arabic points work. I have to research them some more.

I also think there is a danger of looking at too many different things, so that everything will have a meaning at one p oint.

But of course you could say that about Draco charts, asteroids, too.

So anyway, IQ said that if you make a Saturn-shifted chart (like the DRaco chart, just that you substract the Saturn positions from all your tropical planetary positions), members of a soulgroup will have

Saturnic True Node or Moon conjunct / opposite tropical or Draco Moon, True Node, Saturn, DNA or Karma of the other person.


In my case it`s usually conjunctsion / opositions to my Saturnic Moon on 00 Scorpio (which is conjunct my tropical Union, so it makes sense I guess).

Other things to check are conjunctions / oppositions between

Moon, True Node, Karma, Saturn, Pluto, Spirit, Alma (Soul), Angel and DNA, ASC and IC

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posted July 24, 2009 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
That is what Iq wrote:

"Take your Saturn. The Astrologer is always the "Soul Captain" in a soul group, so her Saturn is the best reference point. [If there be 2 well versed astrologers in the group, make a composite.]

Now shift your Saturn to 0 Aries. We are making a Saturn Reference Chart, just like we make Draconic Charts by shifting the True Node. Shift all planets accordingly.

Now compare:
1. Draconic Chart of you 5 with your Saturn Reference.
2. Tropical Chart with your Saturn Reference.

If you do not spot a Saturn Reference Moon or True Node conjunct Dr or Tropical True Node/KARMA/Saturn/Moon/Jupiter/SPIRIT/DNA or ALMA, just junk my theory and accept my apologies for eating up 2 hrs of your time.

If you spot valid conjunctions or oppositions [avoid other aspects for now], note down your Saturn Reference Planetary degrees. See if Lunar transits to these produce fated interactions amongst you.

If so, then I would boldly attest that you are indeed a Soul Family"

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posted July 24, 2009 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Vesta
What are the harmonic charts based on or what kind of information do they give?

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posted July 24, 2009 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Quinnie

harmonic charts are your natal chart multiplied with a certain number.

Let`s say your Sun is on 10 Aries in your tropical (1st harmonic), in the 9th harmonic it would be on 90° (10 multiplied with 9).


The harmonic charts highlight certain aspects, the 9th for example the 9-series, the noviles: 40° - 80° - 120° and so on, which will be conjunctions I think.


the 9th harmonic chart is also used in Vedic astrology as the navamsa; it is said to relate to the soul-level and is interpreted as a marriage chart I believe.
But of course the Vedic astrology has very own rules.

Anyway some new age astrologers use the 9th harmonic chart as a chart for the soul, too, in the tropical zodiac.

It seems to be very interesting actually.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted July 24, 2009 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
hi DD

and to choose that chart.we put harmonic chart on astrodienst.and in the day we put nr 9,right?

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Quinnie
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posted July 24, 2009 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for that DD... So much information and learning. I'm off to the caravan for the weekend. Have a good one everyone!
Will be back for more.

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comica23
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posted July 24, 2009 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with DD - too much information can just blurry the main picture, and besides, with so many things we would always end up finding many meaningful links anyways. Although of course, on the other hand, maybe the extra information can also be insightful in some way.

For checking if my group belongs to the same soul group (there are 5 of us), first I've looked at our tropical and draconic charts. Between these, I've found out that we all have objects (Saturn/Moon/Sun/AC/DNA/Angel/Spirit/Alma) in 3 common points:

- around 27ºdegrees Scorpio/Taurus;
- around 21ºdegrees Scorpio/Taurus (one of us doesn't have anything here thought);
- around 13ºdegrees Aquarius/Leo.

Also, another common point is that two of us have draco Valentine/Amor/Union/Karma/Destinn in Gemini/Sagittarius, while the other 3 of us has these in the same place but in the tropical chart.

And then, I also tried the Saturn Reference Chart as well, which showed some interesting connections - but nothing beats the super coincidence of all of us having Saturn Reference Eros around the same place lol (around 10ºdegrees~16ºdegrees Aquarius/Leo). No one else in my entire astro.com database has this. XP

There are many other small details of course (like meaningful aspects between tropical synastries, draconic synastries and Saturn Reference synastry, etc.), but I'm focusing on the big picture rather, which are the main signs that are common between us all (the details might show the potentials of each of our relationships, but that's too extensive to look at lol).


Well, if you're interested, here's the thread I've posted some info about my soul group:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/201530.html

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vesta
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posted July 24, 2009 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
Hey thanks guys! it works

MY saturn NN conjunct his tropical karma.


and for G ( as a referance)

MY saturn ref karma conjunct his trop ASC
and my saturn ref valentine conjunct his trop DSC.

did I do that right?

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