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Topic: Same Soul Group?
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comica23 Knowflake Posts: 297 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 06:19 PM
I've been playing (obsessively *cof*) with various synastry combinations, and I've noticed that between me and my closest ones (and between themselves), there are some similarities and lots of aspects (I've used 3ºdegrees max, but there are many aspects less than 2ºdegrees) between draconic and/or tropical charts when I've used the asteroids DNA, Spirit, Angel, Alma and Memoria, along with IC, NN and Saturn.It makes me wonder.. If there's such thing as soul groups, do we actually all come from the same soul group then? Or maybe there are many similarities just coz we attract similar people? Note that some of my friends didn't meet each other in the real life, and besides, everyone in this experiment seems to have similarities yet I don't see everyone sharing intense relationships with everyone lol. ^_~; Anyways.. I'm curious.. Have you guys ever tried to use these spiritual/soul objects in synastry (whether tropical-tropical, draco-draco, or draco-tropical)? Maybe you can try to see if there's a kind of similarity pattern between the people you know too. X3 And what do you guys think of the aspects between these objects?? IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 06:25 PM
I never use these objectsIP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 367 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 06:27 PM
Coffee,Me neither. IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2009 01:40 AM
i've been starting to use them and so far it seems that they cluster in natals either with or without planets/points, but in synastry the clusters have seemed to match up with either other clusters or major planets/points ~ very defined areas of merging in the charts, esp. common to the other's angles and stelliums, for mine, i mean. just overall so far seems to reiterate the basic synastry but in a different light ~ if that makes senseas far as soul groups (soul mates) yes i really think this plays into it, i'm believing more and more in this concept - not the romantic lovey dovey one, altho that can exist, but the overall grit that keeps you moving and evolving in relation to those that make a big impact in your life interested to know what you come up with, comica - i love all your insights IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 1091 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2009 03:27 AM
Btw soul group doesn't mean soul mate IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2009 04:23 AM
well not exactly dont soul mates come from your same soul groupIP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 1091 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2009 04:33 AM
not necessarily.Soul groups are HUGE! If you look at a pyramid turned upside down, you are the bottom peak and your soul group spreads like the pyramid sides. It's collective, innit. IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 293 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2009 04:41 AM
I have noticed many correlations with DNA and SPIRIT, more so with the Moon and Saturn. Have not checked ALMA that much for soul group connections.IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 297 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2009 09:29 AM
Thank you for your replies! ^_^ I've found it interesting how there are similarities between the charts of some of the people I know. Of course, with many objects, we might always find at least one meaningful link anyways (between tropical-tropical, draco-draco and draco-tropical), but I've narrowed the degrees down, and also just checked the conjunctions/oppositions in the end, and I've noticed that the most common ground with these 5 people (including myself) is that at least one of their objects would fall around the 27ºdegree of Scorpio/Taurus (either in tropical and/or natal chart). Their birth years aren't the same, except mine and my best friend, but we are almost 7 months apart. Hmm I'm not sure if we are all each other's soulmate, coz I see soulmates as people with whom we have strong bond with, and in this group, some of them haven't met others in the real life yet. But well, in any cases, just as Lonake said, being soulmates or same soul group doesn't exactly mean love love lol.
iQ, what do you think of Saturn aspecting spiritual objects (or DNA) in these cases? I'm not very sure about Saturn's role in these aspects, although I've seen many Saturn/spiritual objects aspects between these 5 people.
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iQ Knowflake Posts: 293 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 04:45 AM
<< iQ, what do you think of Saturn aspecting spiritual objects (or DNA) in these cases? I'm not very sure about Saturn's role in these aspects, although I've seen many Saturn/spiritual objects aspects between these 5 people. >> That is definite confirmation of strong past life interaction. Fated to interact or be known to each other from many lifelines.Let me share with you a powerful astrological discovery, you may gain more insight from this because you are fortunate to have 5 charts of possible Soul Group members. Take your Saturn. The Astrologer is always the "Soul Captain" in a soul group, so her Saturn is the best reference point. [If there be 2 well versed astrologers in the group, make a composite.] Now shift your Saturn to 0 Aries. We are making a Saturn Reference Chart, just like we make Draconic Charts by shifting the True Node. Shift all planets accordingly. Now compare: 1. Draconic Chart of you 5 with your Saturn Reference. 2. Tropical Chart with your Saturn Reference. If you do not spot a Saturn Reference Moon or True Node conjunct Dr or Tropical True Node/KARMA/Saturn/Moon/Jupiter/SPIRIT/DNA or ALMA, just junk my theory and accept my apologies for eating up 2 hrs of your time. If you spot valid conjunctions or oppositions [avoid other aspects for now], note down your Saturn Reference Planetary degrees. See if Lunar transits to these produce fated interactions amongst you. If so, then I would boldly attest that you are indeed a Soul Family IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 06:24 AM
IQ,if there are 2 astrologers in the group, should I take the composite placement of their Saturns? Example: Person A: Saturn on 23 Pisces Person B: Saturn on 17 Cancer So the composite Saturn would be on 20 Taurus. Would that be the Reference Saturn? And do I have to use the composite placements of their Moon and True Node, too?
Example: Person A: Moon on 28 Aries Person B: Moon on 17 Aquarius
So the composite Moon would be on 22 Pisces. Person A: True Node on 15 Taurus Person B: True Node on 10 Sagittarius
Composite True Node would be on : 27 Aquarius: So are my Saturnic references:
Saturnic Moon: 22 Pisces - 20 Taurus= 02 Aquarius Saturnic True Node: 27 Aquarius - 20 Taurus = 07 Capricorn (uups that is my Venus!)
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DD Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 06:40 AM
Or wouldn`t it also make sense to use both Saturn references, of the two astrologers?Funny thing in my example the Saturnic Moon of the one person falls on 00 Scorpio and the Saturnic Moon of the other person falls on 05 Taurus. The Saturnic True Node of the first person is on 23 Leo and the Saturnic True Node of the second person is on 22 Taurus.
does this always happen? IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 1091 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 07:21 AM
I can't even begin to get my sleepy head around this calculation IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 293 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 07:31 AM
DD, I am sure there will be valid links in your amazing Soul Group I too would like to use the 2 Saturn References but it would involve laborious work of creating and checking for 2 charts. It is cool that there were aspects straight away! I have seen it happen with me and my wife: My Saturn Chart DSC and Pluto exactly conjuncts her Natal True Node, and my Saturn Chart Moon wide orb conjuncts her True Node. Here's one more confirmation: My wife's Saturn Chart Ascendant exactly conjuncts my VALENTINE.... Sorry for sounding arrogant but the astrologer who dares to first calculate this also can claim the Soul Captain's role Just to make things simpler. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 1091 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 07:38 AM
So if my saturn is at 18' Aries do i reverse it 18 degrees to 0' aries and then take 18 degrees off al my other planets positions?IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 07:50 AM
IQ,I don`t mind a bit of work and calculating. I just LOVE doing those calculation for my little soulgroup, it gives me a feeling of closeness somehow. So you are looking at ALL planets in the Saturn reference chart? I had limited it to True Node and Moon for now. Actually I found something that made me gasp for air: Composite True Node on 7 Capricorn: conjunct my Spirit (3) conjunct my Venus (1) conjunct my Isis (1) conjunct my Osiris (0) opposite my Draco Juno (0) conjunct J`s Sun (0) conjunt J`s Kaali and Parvati (1) oposite J`s Valentine (0) oppoiste J`s Osiris (3) opposite P`s Spirit (3) conjuncts P`s Draco Juno (19 conjunct P`s Dr Valentine (1) conjunct A`s Venus (3) conjunct A`s Spirit (2) conjunct A`s Eros (1) opposite A`s Dr Angel (3) And now, do you have your seatbelt fastened?
AT the evening of A´s concert, where I unexpectedly ran into P, too, Transit Mars was on 08 Cancer, opposing that Composite Saturnic True Node and everything onnected to it!!!! Funny, Transit Mars will transit this exact position this year, too. I guess around august or september. lol
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DD Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 07:52 AM
IQ,like always I am astounded by these beautiful aspects you have with your wife. Are you really sure she is not your Twinflame? BTW my own Saturnic Moon conjuncts my Mum`s Sun and opposes my Dad`s Sun.
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 1091 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 07:58 AM
DD, can you explain quickly if i'm doing it right - see my above post! thanksIP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 293 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 08:09 AM
Yes, Lara, you got it right. Just deduct 18 degrees from all planets for your chart. IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 293 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 08:16 AM
DD, I am not surprised at all. Your case with A, P, and J is one of the most accurate soul group/karmic experiences that I know of. I never tire of reading about it. Ahem, about my wife. I WISH she were my twin flame but if she were, she would have recalled atleast one past lifeline with me. And with her chart having 10 times occult power than mine, to not dream about our past lifelines is very strange. Anyway, she and my kids are close soulmates, that is enough for me
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 1091 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 08:46 AM
Thanks IQSo do i look at the saturn node to the other persons natal positions please? I'm confused IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 1091 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 08:52 AM
wow is it normal for my natal sun to regress to my n saturn point?
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comica23 Knowflake Posts: 297 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2009 10:39 AM
iQ, that's a very interesting theory, I will sure check it later (not at home 'till tomorrow). ^_^ Hmm since I'm the only one interested in astrology in a deeper degree, it makes me the captain lol~ XDBut iQ, is a Saturn aspect to DNA or Spiritual objects really that meaningful? Coz in my 5 people case, in that 27ºdegree Scorpio/Taurus axis, I only have my Saturn there, so I wonder if it's still valid enough? One last question - is 3º degrees max too wide? Actually there's another common ground, but only between 4 of us, in the 21ºdegree Scorpio/Taurus. But while with 3 of them, their objects (Sun/AC/Alma) are in less than 0º20' degree conjunct/opposition in the 21ºdegree, my NN is at the 18ºdegree, max 2º42' degrees apart from these. Is my NN too far away? And now, DD X3 since you also found your soul group.. did you find meaningful aspects/patterns between you guys' Saturn/NN/DNA/spiritual objects too??
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DD Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 12, 2009 05:41 AM
Comica,I am not sure what you ask me to look for. The saturn reference of the guys? Or the tropical saturn aspects? IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 1091 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 12, 2009 06:29 AM
OK i'm feeling particularly stupid today How does one find ones soul group please? IP: Logged |