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Cynnared
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posted July 21, 2009 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
She has Venus in cancer at 28 degrees.....it just dawned on my just how the eclipse with effect her...she needs to learn the value of things and she needs to do more chores.or start doing them. The discipline will be kicked up a few notches cause I was having so many problems with her out of control episodes.

She is also have a T Saturn Square her natal Saturn/Sun Opposite Pluto happening. so restructuring etc....

I am happier now that I can do more interpretations and actually figure the transits out myself......YAY....less work for you guys!

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aka Kat
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posted July 24, 2009 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Could you explain/give examples of what these episodes are like? When do they happen? What does she do? What do you do in response? How does she then respond?

(By the way I have Cancer sun, mercury, venus, NN. The eclipse was BS to me, nothing happened!)

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Cynnared
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posted July 24, 2009 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
"She was out of control and nobody could get to her. She trashed her room and then started with the living room. I'd be firm and ask her to clean up and her behavior gets worse. I was firm and setting limits - no effect. She has thrown stuff at my and tried harming the respite worker today. It's illegal to spank a special needs child. She is a danger to herself and those around her. I really don't know what to do and I am beside myself."


I hope this gives an explanation or something....

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Happy Dragon
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posted July 24, 2009 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
~ Cynnared ~
just wondering if you've tried looking for advice via the astro.com forum ..
i.e. given Liz Greene's slant towards psychology-astrology ..
and that .. .. " natal Saturn/Sun Opposite Pluto " .. .. configuration your daughter's chart ..

** The discipline will be kicked up a few notches cause I was having so many problems with her out of control episodes. **
i'd be afraid that approach might backfire and just re-inforce the natal Saturn/Sun Opposite Pluto perception.
( as in .. humans tend to view the world thru the lens of their natal aspects .. and transit aspects .. )

btw: this is a good book ..
" The Development of the Personality"
seminars in psychology astrology .. volume one
by Liz Greene and Howard Sasportas
contents :
1 .. the stages of childhood
2 .. the parental marriage in the horoscope
3 .. subpersonalities and psychological conflicts
4 .. puer and senex

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aka Kat
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posted July 25, 2009 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
So sorry you have such a difficult situation.

I think it is time to throw away the astrology with her. Special needs children require special skills and behavior modification techniques that you will not find in an astrology book. Swap the astrology book with the positive discipline and area of special needs books. Are there any support groups in your area that specialize with you child's particular need? I would suggest joining them. Perhaps they could share some insight as to what they did that they found effective. I assume you already tried a positive discipline chart where she would be given stickers for good behavior, naughty chair/timeout, etc., asking the child to tell you what you asked her to do- with eye contact, made cleanup a game....If not, start reading up.(I wonder because you stated that you were firm - nothing else. Kid's are notorious at playing power games when you only yell/talk firmly and do not modify the behavior in some other way,they tend to like to retaliate with the same energy maybe stronger, or do nothing so they are in control.) Is she seeing a psychologist? I hope you are along with her.

I still do not understand what the trigger was that got her so angry that she went on a trashing rampage. Is she autistic? With special needs children it would be good to know what started this - a sound, not getting their way, someone used angry words and they retaliated. Anyway, you did not know how to deal with it effectively and that is something you need to take a serious look at. It is best for you to modify your reactions and how you deal with this situation while she is seven and not seventeen. There is help out there to help you learn how to deal with her. I know you probably already are in some groups, but stick with it. This will be a lifelong learning process.

Please do not use astrology to try to figure out your child. You commented how you were able to figure out aspects on your own -- nothing is worse than a little knowledge applied to a serious situation when improving skills is what is called for. You mentioned the a challenging situation in your child's chart. What we focus on expands. If you want to avoid a self-fulfilled prophesy, dump the astrology. You know what her real challenges are so start to see her good behavior and reward it.

I know this is not what you want to hear. Sometimes we would rather go off in airy fairy world than deal with the harshness of what's going on around us. It's easier to pick up an astrology book; we can control what we read and learn. But dealing with a special needs child takes skill that needs to be learned over time. We fail and mess up and it feels terrible - it takes a toll on our self esteem. We don't want to admit that maybe we are not dealing with the situation as best as possible, because that would require that we admit we were wrong and then need to retrain ourselves and be the beginner. We get frustrated and angry, cry and want to give up. There is help out there. I hope you will search for the answers. Imagine how much better it will be when you focus on being proactive in bringing out positive change.

Take Care

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Cynnared
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posted July 25, 2009 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
I wasn't reading my astrology books when I have decided to put my foot down with her this week and use more discipline with her.....

Here is a thread that I started in May about her......
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/200956.html

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aka Kat
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posted July 25, 2009 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Family Therapy! You need to get to the root of this anger.

All misbehavior is a call for love and cry for help.

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Cynnared
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posted July 26, 2009 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
I'm on a few lengthy waiting lists for therapy here.....at this time I'm focused on taking care of the end stages of pregnancy and preparing for labor and delivery any day now.....

My ex would never consent to even going to therapy.he thinks that everything is my fault and he has no issues about anything.....so it's a deal with my daughter and I...

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aka Kat
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posted July 26, 2009 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Go without him.

So if I get it right, no father present, you have a boyfriend, a baby is on the way, hmm Where does she fit it? It seems like the most attention she is getting is when she misbehaves. Kids will take attention any way it is dished out.

Maybe you need to do a fun project or activity together. Snuggle time during a TV program. Discipline is like money in the bank; you need to give them positive strokes and happy experiences together -- "money" goes into the bank (not literally) so when they misbehave and a withdrawal is made the child better cooperates.

check this out
http://www.positivediscipline.com/
http://www.positivediscipline.com/articles/power.html
(some downloads)
http://www.positivediscipline.com/What_is_Positive_Discipline.html

If you want to use astrology use the positive stuff. Ignore the negative aspects. She has lots of Gemini and Cancer. Here is a little girl that wants lots of love attention, nurturing, hugs and to be communicated. She wants to be caught doing good and then told about it. She wants you to look directly at her and communicate with love and empathy. She wants you to take a loving lead and communicate gently what you want her to do. She wants you to be friendly (11th house) and not yell. she wants to be taught about life and be intellectually challenged (gemini 10th house.) She wants to be involved in the public and with certain clubs and organizations. (10th and 11th house.)
(Hopefully I saw the correct chart.)

It's tough stick with it.

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iQ
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posted July 28, 2009 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Excellent advice Aka Kat!

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Cynnared
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posted May 22, 2010 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
Earlier this year I took a positive parenting class and just found out how far positive reinforcment goes...a very long way. I was negatively parented by my folks and it went on untill I started taking this class.....

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