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Topic: If Leo is the most self aware then is Aqua the least?
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stillatlarge Knowflake Posts: 463 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 25, 2015 07:54 AM
I'm just curious. Since they're opposites, would that be true? They really don't seem to see themselves very accurately, IMO.IP: Logged |
astra7 Knowflake Posts: 817 From: I live at 667 Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 25, 2015 10:08 AM
When you say Leo or Aqua, do you mean Sun signs, Asc or Moon sign?I am very aware! IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9422 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 25, 2015 02:15 PM
How is Leo the most self-aware?I totally agree with your last sentence, though. (But then again, that can be said about many people.) IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2137 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 25, 2015 02:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by stillatlarge: I'm just curious. Since they're opposites, would that be true? They really don't seem to see themselves very accurately, IMO.
in short, yes. IP: Logged |
sunflower-moon Knowflake Posts: 235 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 25, 2015 02:28 PM
Maybe a Leo with some Virgo mixed in lol. I don't find Leo's, in general, to be the most self-aware. I'd give that to Virgo & Aquarius and maybe people with strong 11th or 12th houses. Just from what I've experienced.IP: Logged |
Dreaminess Knowflake Posts: 492 From: norway Registered: Aug 2014
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posted May 25, 2015 03:14 PM
"They really don't seem to see themselves very accurately"So true. IP: Logged |
Seimei Knowflake Posts: 655 From: n2thedust Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 25, 2015 04:06 PM
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MineAgain Knowflake Posts: 1716 From: A place where dreams come true Registered: Nov 2013
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posted May 25, 2015 04:19 PM
Leos are usually obtuce and oblivious to their egomaniac tendencies, that's a fact.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9422 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 25, 2015 04:23 PM
^ That really made me laugh. (We Scorpios tend to be really sensitive to Leos' "egos".)IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 1028 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 25, 2015 04:54 PM
Does self aware mean they see themselves accurately? Because I don't think Leos see thremselves accurately at all. Seems like he bigger the ego, the more distorted their sense of self gets. It feel like earthier people would see themselves the most accurately. IP: Logged |
Liliya Knowflake Posts: 1243 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted May 25, 2015 05:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: ^ That really made me laugh. (We Scorpios tend to be really sensitive to Leos' "egos".)
Must be a hard competition. Scorpio ego is a s big as Leos, someone needs to give up the throne. IP: Logged |
stillatlarge Knowflake Posts: 463 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010
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posted May 25, 2015 05:09 PM
In this case I'm talking about Aqua sun and Mars but I meant in general. I don't see them as being self aware at all but this is the first Aqua male I've known well to any extent. I'm only talking SELF awareness.IP: Logged |
joandreamer unregistered
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posted May 25, 2015 05:18 PM
I would say both of them are unable to see themselves as they truly are.But if I had to choose which one was more self aware, I'd say Aquas are. IP: Logged |
Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 102 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 25, 2015 05:32 PM
An *evolved Leo (Sphinx) is the most self-aware. Unfortunately, the society we live in today promotes narcissistic qualities which only serve to distort the Leonian energy... many Leos nowadays never get past the lion cub stage.I suppose Aquarian energy is less inclined towards developing self-awareness because it is more inclined towards humanitarian/group qualities. Essentially, the 6 polar opposite pairs of the zodiac are each two sides of the same coin. The polar opposites have an underlying energy that harmonizes and completes one another.
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Eirlys Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Atlantic Coast Registered: May 2013
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posted May 25, 2015 06:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Liliya: Must be a hard competition. Scorpio ego is a s big as Leos, someone needs to give up the throne.
They can't handle the Light.
Truth. ------------------ Nothing is permanent in this wicked world; not even our troubles. -C Chaplin
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BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 3302 From: Neptune with PisceanDream, Faith, and Meissieri Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 25, 2015 08:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by bansheequeen: Does self aware mean they see themselves accurately? Because I don't think Leos see thremselves accurately at all. Seems like he bigger the ego, the more distorted their sense of self gets. It feel like earthier people would see themselves the most accurately.
Yeah, I agree. I actually think if anything, it would the opposite in who is more self-aware. BUT- I do not think having a Leo or Aqua placement alone can determine self-awareness. I'd look at the charts and see what sort of aspects are going on- what if they have some Neptune in there that prevents them from seeing themselves correctly? IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2137 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 25, 2015 10:25 PM
I think Aquas see people very clearly but have troubles with seeing their egos as worthy of anything unless they have gone out and proved their uniqueness. You can't be a rebel without looking from the outside in. Aquas have difficult being on the spot light, accepting the ego. Leos on the other hand can walk in and feel like they deserve to be loved already. Ask any Aqua to describe themselves, they would have troubles describing or shy away from talking about themselves at all. That said Aquas have very big pride. IP: Logged |
Eirlys Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Atlantic Coast Registered: May 2013
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posted May 25, 2015 11:40 PM
Originally posted by stillatlarge: If Leo is the most self aware then is Aqua the least?I'm just curious. Since they're opposites, would that be true? They really don't seem to see themselves very accurately, IMO. Broadly speaking, it's the axis of the Individual (Leo)
& the Collective (Aqua). Both are entirely necessary; one cannot exist without the other, and each has his rightful place in the Zodiac. We are exactly as we are supposed to be. But to say that all Leos are this and all Aquas are that is kind of silly, considering no chart is comprised of strictly Leo or Aqua. ------------------ Nothing is permanent in this wicked world; not even our troubles. -C Chaplin
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Bluejay Knowflake Posts: 429 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 26, 2015 12:18 AM
I'm with MineAgain and Doux Reve(I think we all have close Scorpio Sun and Mercury placements) Leo is not at all self aware. Self aware means seeing yourself for who you truly are, flaws and all. It doesn't mean self absorbed. Big difference. I can speak from personal experience since my mom, grandma, and former mother in law are all Leos. Unfortunately, so is my current love interest...I swore it would never happen!!! Nooooo! (shakes fist) IP: Logged |
Seimei Knowflake Posts: 655 From: n2thedust Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 26, 2015 01:25 AM
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2137 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 26, 2015 08:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Seimei: Really think this cannot be determined by A SUN placement, awareness of self is reflected in the aspect between sun and MOON. And an aqu may well conceal their own awareness with personal planets in Pisces, but less so with those same placements in Cap.
Aqua sun is in detriment
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9422 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 26, 2015 09:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bluejay:
Lol I you. Too funny. Interestingly, both my mother and grandmother are also Leos... IP: Logged |
Bluejay Knowflake Posts: 429 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 30, 2015 02:00 AM
thanks Doux! Nice to see you back. I don't post often, but I constantly lurk in the shadows, and I always enjoy your insightful comments.It is really weird how many Scorpios I know that have a Leo parent. As a matter of fact, all of the Scorpios I grew up with, mostly their mother. One friend married a Leo, but I'm not sure about his parents. Sadly he died years ago. . One thing is for sure, all of the Scorpios I know have at least one very influential Leo in their lives. I was re-reading Linda's take on Leo/Scorpio the other day...She said since it's a solar 4/10 house placement, that it's often found in parent/child or mentor type relationships. I know so many older Leo women, it's ridiculous. I almost always get along with them, but even when we don't see eye to eye, there's a begrudging respect that goes both ways. I usually have to explain the concept that other people don't think/feel the way they do. It's not easy for them. It seems they are only "self aware" IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 1969 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 30, 2015 05:19 AM
Actually Aries is the most self-aware... Aries traditionally rules the 1st house (the house of the Self). Aries is into totally going off and doing it's own thing, and they're not afraid to pioneer new things. On the plus side they are exciting courageous people. On the negative side this sign can be a bit self absorbed. Libra, the sign opposite Aries is the most other-oriented sign. Libra is totally into balancing themselves with others, and putting effort into relationships. On the plus side Libra is charming and easygoing, on the negative side they have a hard time asserting themselves. About Leo-Aquarius... Leo is more about creating, and expressing passions then about being 'self aware'. Leo traditionally rules the 5th house of self-expression, and creativity. They love to show off what they can do to others, rather then going off and doing their own thing like Aries. Leos can be a bit proud, but they can also be very generous. They GIVE and express with their energy. They tend to live their lives like they are putting on a performance. This is not fake though. It's just how they are. Aquarius, the opposite sign of Leo, is the sign of the observer. They love to people-watch and analyze situations from an objective standpoint. Leo likes to get wrapped up in the dramatic highs and lows of experiencing life. They embrace their emotions. Aquarius on the other hand, tries not to let their emotions blind them to the truth of what's happening. They study the world around them as they mix with all the varieties of people in the world. They receive information from many, and love to pass on what they have learned listening to others, and observing others. They are also capable of making self-observations with clear cut objectivity. Whereas Leo tends to think of themselves as the star of some epic story, on a hero's quest of some kind. If Leo lives their life like they are putting on a performance, Aquarius lives their life like they are a social-scientist. Astrology is said to be ruled by Aquarius/Uranus. Both signs are very 'self-aware' but in different ways. Leo is very aware of their personal experiences in life, and the emotional significance that goes along with them. They see specialness and magic in life, in themselves, and in others. In their minds they are living the a hero's storyline. Aquarius is very aware of the objective social context that we all live in. And the ways in which people have commonalities that all humans share, as well as differences that make people totally unique. Every individual is a human with the same basic tendencies, and yet each is also different then any other human because of their individual personality and experiences. Aqua's love to study the things about themselves and others that make them the same as everyone else, as well as the things that make them different then anyone else. The dichotomy shared similarities and individual diversity amongst people, and within themselves, is a topic of endless fascination for Aquarius. They love to apply their sharp logic to this topic, and to discover the reasons behind why people are the way they are (including themselves). IP: Logged |
erickaf Knowflake Posts: 906 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted May 30, 2015 05:32 AM
Well for me I have Aquarius Moon and I live in my head...but I am aware of myself not very observant of others or things around me.
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