posted June 08, 2011 10:11 AM            

A planet conjunct the ASC is that planet in your outward self.
Conjunct the DSC--you look for it in others
Conjunct the IC--it was the sense of your early home

What does the planet do when it conjuncts the MC?

Thanks so much!

posted June 08, 2011 11:00 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Guiding star. Final destination,the ideal self we'd like to become.

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Brilliant
Thank you Venus. That helps a lot!

posted June 08, 2011 11:22 AM            

And many Asteroids, like Lust for example on my Mercury

posted June 08, 2011 11:47 AM            

They are known as the Archangel stars being watchers of the four points of the compass.
I quote:

"Regulus - (the star of kings) known as being the heart of the lion in the constellation of Leo, it is the most important of these four. The healing Archangel Raphael, the watcher of the North. Certainly, in Royal nativity's, Regulus is very important, regarded almost as a planet itself."
The other are Fomalhaut, Alderbaran and Antares

It is linked with: Nobility, royalty, ambition, alertness, great power, status, leadership, great honor but also sudden downfall.

posted June 08, 2011 11:50 AM            

Could you try Pluto or Saturn.
Thanks so much

posted June 08, 2011 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Anemone:
Regulus (Lion's Heart - 'cor Leonis') is a Fixed star and one of the Royal Stars

They are known as the Archangel stars being watchers of the four points of the compass.
I quote:

"Regulus - (the star of kings) known as being the heart of the lion in the constellation of Leo, it is the most important of these four. The healing Archangel Raphael, the watcher of the North. Certainly, in Royal nativity's, Regulus is very important, regarded almost as a planet itself."
The other are Fomalhaut, Alderbaran and Antares

It is linked with: Nobility, royalty, ambition, alertness, great power, status, leadership, great honor but also sudden downfall.

It is a Behenian Star

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posted June 08, 2011 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:

I have this one. Venus in Leo at 29 degrees conjunct MC in Leo. I hope it's good for me.

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Should be good. Mine is on the Ascendant. I think on the MC you are spared the negative part.

posted June 08, 2011 11:56 AM            

If this is of any help my Mars conjuncts my MC in 10th in Scorpio. (Mars 20 scorp, MC 18 Scorp).

I have always been ambitious and very focused at work, and am finally in a job where they allow me autonomy and don't micromanage. Mars on the MC doesn't like to be micromanaged.

I currently work full time, am about to start a degree in my field of work (not where I expected I'd end up - in IT - but still it resonates with my Aquarius AC!)

I have always run small businesses outside of my regular job as well.. usually hobbies turned into money... sort of takes the fun out of the hobby though so they usually don't last too long.. but my latest has been going since about 2006, on a two year hiatus while I set up financially and get more experience

Problems that i have found:
1. It's taken me a long time to finally focus on a career, even if its a career that is not really where I envisaged I'd be (I started a health degree in natural therapies!)
My dream is to be my own boss, and I am embarking on a business degree (majoring in IT and Digital Design). Then again I fell into this job because I was good at data entry a fast typer and computer literate. It seems very fated, in fact this job was completely fated .. met my soul partner at work Not that it ended so well.. we still have ongoing energies 'talks' and communicate at work every couple of weeks (for work related stuff, but even on the phone the tension can be cut with a knife!) Anyway my Mercury in Aries/3rd is playing up and going on tangents.. (which can be annoying when I am trying to focus lol)
So I am going to use this job/degree (my work is paying for this degree ! That is worth a lot of money!) as a stepping stone to setting up my own fully fledged business, while I dabble in business on the side. Currently I am running an ebay store reselling things after work. 100% feedback woohoo!

2. I can come across 'forceful' or 'aggressive' (in tone) when I am not meaning to be, usually when I am asking someone for help/a favour and usually I am not even feeling this way I am usually just being focused! This could possibly be my own warped perception of myself though. This has been a problem so instead I am aware that I usually come across really weak (because I don't want to offend anyone.. Moon in Libra here! This is totally conscious as well) I dont know if the 'aggressiveness' is just a Scorpio Mars or whether it is Mars on the 10th, or just a combination of them. There's a happy ending though. Over the last two years I have worked at using this energy positively in the work place and use this energy for confidence instead. People are actually starting to treat me with respect and listen to my ideas, and they still think I am a nice non-aggressive person. My self-esteem is much healthier for it (using the energy for confidence). I have always had manners and tried not to appear too aggressive as I am aware that I have a tendency to come across as firm, but I was compensating by being overly nice and timid.. so now after a lot of introspection it is a good mix after so many years. I think the Moon Libra in 9th really affected me there. It is semi-sextile my MC exactly.

Mars is also natally retrograde.

posted June 08, 2011 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Every planet on MC has that shielding quality; when u reach it,it's like getting a new personality. It's lonely on the top situation. I noticed that many(I'll avoid to say all) r perceived/judged/experienced through that planet only. And not to mention ASC Ruler on/around MC.
In my opinion,one is either ASC or MC.

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You are helping me MORE than you can know. Thank you

posted June 08, 2011 04:08 PM            

(Donna Cunningham)

These placements show very difficult conditions with authority figures and most
probably a parent who was oppressive, controlling, and perhaps even abusive. The
result is deep-seated resentment toward people in power (maybe toward the whole
world) and a determination never to be under the control of someone else. The bind
is that these people are also very success-oriented, and it is difficult to succeed if
they are forever setting up battles with the powers that be. The scorpion's sting
means that they are usually the ones who wind up getting hurt. They may be playing
with the Big Guys, who are born strategists, while their own resentments lead them
to make ill-considered moves.

Parents with this position who are not able to be poewrful in teh world may act out
power needs on their children, repeating, in fact, what was done to them. Pluto in the
tenth shows a critical, highly ambitious parent who respected nothing but BIG
success and was never pleased with child-sized successes. The parental curse 'You'll
never amount to anything' may have been frequently heard; and this Plutonian may
go through repeated humiliating public failures in order to get even. This depth and
degree of the fail for spite game is not fun!These people may be stubbornly resistant
to healing, because all healing in some way represents being under someone else's
power. Possibly it is best taken alone. Working through exercises on resentment
could be very important. A healing career is quite possible - and they will have to heal
themselves in the course of their studies! People who are freed form the negative
manifestations of this placement, who are able to work with power in a clean way,
can have a strong impact on the world, bringing about healing and reform.

(Howard Sasportas)

If we take the tenth house to represent the mother, then those with Pluto here may
see her as dark, threatening and possessing the ability to destroy them. She can be
experienced as a witch, or someone who is primeval, ruthless and manipulative. They
may sense a seething anger and pent-up frustration or sexuality emanating from her.
They feel as if she is always there, somehow watching them, even if she is not
physically present. In short, she is felt to be dangerous and untrustworthy. However,
in reality, she may not be this sort of person at all, but the child with Pluto here, in
certain cases, may experience her predominantly this way. Or sometimes the early
death or loss of the mother is the root of later problems in life.As covered in the
general discussion of the 10th house, our earlier experiences of the mother (our first
container) will contribute to the way in which we relate to teh larger container of
society. If the image associated with a negative Plutonic mother is projected onto the
world, then these people will fear that the world is a dangerous place intent on
destroying them. Some with this placement may react to this by withdrawing from
society and having as little to do with the world as possible. Others may compensate
for their dread of being devoured with an obsessional need for power and control
over others. Attempting to regain a lost sense of infantile omnipotence, they strive to
extend their territory of influence to include as much of the world as they can. If they
are in control, if they are the ones in authority, then they feel safe. Their need for
power can be so consuming that any means will justify achieving those ends. Also,
there is a distrust of anyone who has authority over them, a desire to dethrone or
destroy those in charge before it's too late. For all these reasons, those with Pluto in
the 10th need to re-evaluate and come to a deeper understanding of their underlying
psychological motives for ambition, power or worldly success.
Of course, the above description is a one-sided explanation of Pluto projected in a
negative light. It is possible that the mother may carry a positive Pluto association.
She could be viewed as the great bestower of life, and experienced as an
exceptionally capable source of comfort and support through all the contingencies of
daily life. Some people I know with this placement have watched the mother struggle
successfully with a personal crisis or a severe life trauma, and were most impressed
with her ability to manage hard times and come out the other side renewed and
regenerated. She then become a positive prototype for later challenging experiences
with which they had to contend. In this way, as adults with Pluto in the 10th they
model qualities of strength, will and endurance to other people.Pluto's placement in
the chart is where we periodically tear down, destroy or alter existing circumstances
in order to create new ones. It is where we may be reduced to nothing in order to rise
again. In some cases, Pluto here may indicate the loss or leaving behind of an
established career and the necessity to embark on a new vocation of an altogether
different nature.

Those with Pluto in the 10th ultimately require a career which is deeply engaging,
meaningful, and exciting. Either the work is of a 'Plutonian' nature or they approach
the whole area of work with the kind of intensity and complexity associated with this
planet. Some may be responsible for reforming existing institutions of society which
are outworn or outdated. Other fields related to Pluto are those of medicine,
psychology, and occult or psychic work, investigative sceince and journalism, politics,
mining, atomic research, etc.. I have done charts for two people with Pluto in the
10th who were in jobs in which they were not allowed to reveal the exact nature of
their work. Some may engage in careers which reflect socieity's shadowy side - such
as prostitution, crime or underworld involvement.Occasionally, I have come across
people with Pluto in the 10th who tell me that they have no ambition. After my
talking with them for a while, it becomes clear that they still see themselves as 'small'
compared to the big, powerful world (mother) out there. Usually, on some level, they
are frustrated by the lack of influence they wield, or the unchallenging job they are
already in. In certain cases, it strikes me that some people with Pluto in the 10th may
not find their true vocation until they are more capable of using their power wisely
and for the good of the larger whole, rather than for purely personal ends.

(Stephanie Camilleri)

Extremely single-minded in doing what they want to do, those with Pluto in the tenth
will let nothing stand in their way once they have decided what htey want to do and
be. Sometimes this shows as a firm determination not to do what others want them to
do, particularly in youth, before they know what it is they want. It is hard for them to
know what they want in youth because it is often something very unique that rises
out of the socio-economic-psychological nature of the times. No failures, however
crushing; no sidetracks, however tortuous and time-consuming; no handicaps,
however, cripping, can deter them from their ultimate goal once they have
determined what it is. Their will grips onto the image of themselves in a certain role;
and nothing, not even their own good sense, can change it. Their imagination builds
castles in the air that they must drive themselves to make real.

They are far-seeing, both back into the past and ahead into the future; and this can
set them apart from their fellows and make them appear peculiar to others with more
ordinary or immediate goals. There is apt to be quite a bit of lonelineess aloing the
way until they find others who understand; and even when they do, the demands of
their fate often require that they part company.

This often testifies to a difficult start in life; the early loss of one or both parents, or
similar external circumstances that shatter the peace and calm of the family and set
them on their own, psychologically if not physically, at an early age. They are rarely
seekers of power for its own sake, tending to be shy and constrained in front of
groups; but they may seek it as a means to their own personal ends. They are capable
of disregarding any and all ordinary demands placed on them by society, but are also
capable of working nonstop around the clock for years toward their own personal
goals, putting up with situations that would deter most others, if they feel that it will
ultimately lead to their destiny.

It is a partial testimony to a long, healthy life, particularly when their goal is one that
cannot be reached in one lifetime, as though they can't take time out for sickness or
death. If fate or fortune allows them to achieve their goal fairly early, they may die
young. If there are oppositions to Pluto from the fourth, from the Sun, Mars, or
Pluto's dispositor, they may die before their goal has been reached, or before they
have found out what it is; but this is usually more due to the psychological stress of
being so unique and lonely than to frustration over barriers in their path.They have
magnificent imagination, almost a sixth sense about the nature of reality, that
enables them to grasp the possibilities inherent in whatever it is that interests
them.They have passionate love natures. Their lives may be filled with unique love
affairs which may be long and drawn out. They may have to overcome barriers to
possess their beloved; and this may go into old age, or happen more than once.

posted June 08, 2011 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
The best example for MC Pluto,I am not sure whether u r into politics,is Vladimir Putin.
As a general trait of MC Plutonians is self-sacrifice. They know what/when/how to give,but never to give up. Blind to everything that isn't their goal. As if they stand on slightly rised ground,so they see more than other. But,it's not a burden,not to them. Dismissive,cruel,like an animal biting its way through. When I think of them I see little monser hiding behind eyes-it isn't the matter of embracing one's dark side,it is about having it on leash and absolutely taming it . Quite interesting individuals. Never afraid to get dirty but never losing their dignity.

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I think that animal is hiding inside me

posted June 08, 2011 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Maira,do u have Venus on Mc??

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Nope, it's in my 7th. I have a tight sun-venus-mars stellium in the 7th.
My MC is in Cancer, the Moon is in the 8th. All I have in the 10th is my lousy Leo NN, who's making me walk on stages, ever though I don't really want to.