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Topic: Planets conjunct the MC ---Help Please
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 04:31 PM
  
Do you have Sun conjunct Venus, Maira?------------------
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maira
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posted June 08, 2011 04:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you have Sun conjunct Venus, Maira?
Yes, everything is 0 degrees orb. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 04:37 PM
WOW
So you are very Libra like then. I am fascinated by planets conjunct the Sun.
HOW is if different than an ACTUAL Libra if you can say?
I always wanted to ask someone that question  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 04:40 PM
I suppose Putin for a role model is not ALL that bad  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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maira
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posted June 08, 2011 04:42 PM
I'm kind of proud of that actually, but I can't pinpoint the reason  If you're interested sometime, read about cazimi - planets so close to the sun get scorched by the sun, but if they are less than 17' arc, it seems that they are strengthened. There's a discussion whether one should also take into consideration another factor which eludes me at this point (long day, barely able to think). But I like it, whether it's cazimi or not. Leo NN and ego approve IP: Logged |
maira
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posted June 08, 2011 04:48 PM
Sweetie, I'm a walking contradiction - remember that my stellium is in Aries, and it includes Mars, which is the sole dispositor of my chart. Venus is in detriment in Aries. With the planets being in the 7th and Libra asc, it's a mess - most of the time Aries comes out to play, then Libra kicks in and so on, you get the picture.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 04:48 PM
Aww Maira
Another time I want to do a thread on what is the difference between BEING an actual sign and having the sun conjunct the planet which rules the sign lol------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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maira
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posted June 08, 2011 04:57 PM
Yes, sorry for derailing your thread. I think that Venus's explanations were brilliant. I always thought that the MC is what the "public" sees, the people that don't know us very well or at all. But I didn't know that one must "grow" into the MC.For instance, my opinion is that Michael Jackson had a Gemini ascendant, thus Chiron in Aquarius would of been conjunct the MC and he also had moon in Pisces in 10th.
And it's very descriptive of how the public perceived him - giant walking wound, very eccentric, trying to heal the world but failing to do so for himself. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 04:58 PM
Awww You did not de rail my thread Maira
So,is the MC HOW you are perceived RATHER than how you actually are?
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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maira
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posted June 08, 2011 05:05 PM
What I understood from Venus's explanations, and it makes sense - is that the IC is who we are at the core and the MC is what we grow into. Kind of like the SN/NN axis. If I'm mistaken, I'm sorry - again, long day.
I'll leave it to her if she'll be kind enough to elaborate.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 05:08 PM
Be well Darling  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 06:30 PM
Thank you all for the Pluto on the MC info
I have a new body of thought now--the IC/MC axis
Pluto IS my aspirational planet/energy anyway.
This aspect reinforces that.
Pluto on the MC IS a Pluto which IS integrated.
That is my passion and my goal.------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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allouette
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posted June 08, 2011 06:37 PM
I don't have Pluto cj MC but i'll try to explain how Pluto, Saturn and MC work in my casei have a combo of Sun, Pluto and Vertex - Libra 29 d within 20mins orb, with vertex in between, on my Sun/Pluto midpoint.
the most exact aspect in my chart is Saturn 6,12 Scorpio square MC 6,12 Aquarius, so a 0:00 aspect i've always been an overachiever and now at the age of 27 i have an excellent career, I know many influential people I am highly respected and appreciated in what I am doing BUT
my life is a continuous fight, a continuous search for the purpose, for the truth. I will NEVER ever ever stop believing and fighting for my purpose. i would rather DIE (I am not kidding) than letting go, giving up. almost always i get what i want, sooner or later. i am not a martian type of warrior, i take my time, and whatever it takes to go where i want to go, because living a life of purpose is my only option, so I can't afford to make any wrong move. if for whatever reason I can't achieve my purpose, the only way to get over it is to find a greater one
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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 08, 2011 07:22 PM
Aww,thanks,guys 
I am McVenus,applying by minute,I'm always on search to find sb with same situation,so we can compare stuff. When I got into astrology,and learned basics,my starting,exploring points were from my own chart. Oh,how very Leo of me I am also LibraAsc,so Mc story is stressed. Only aspect that is out of my grasp(I just can't find example to begin with) is Mercury on Mc-I can work out that in general..
Yes! IC is the core... Heritage one gets by just being a kid,growing up. I know many IC Plutonians,also great position. The Survivor.
About MC Pluto,I somwhow feel that this day&age isn't right for them because of comformistic overall attitude. That expression -global village? Sooo not for them.
Ami Anne,Putin isn't bad role model at all,just I think it would be harder to see that,u r from strong democratic society and culture. He is so interesting!
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maira
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posted June 08, 2011 08:09 PM
Ami, Pluto on the MC, check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YRrRS0ddpE IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 08:14 PM
He's ain't bad  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
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enchantress299
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posted June 08, 2011 08:31 PM
I have Venus (9th) conjunct MC conjunct Sun (10th). Each planet conjuncts the MC within 1 degree. I find it to be an interesting combination since each planet is in a different house, but in the same sign (only barely). It makes the energy a little different I think.However, I think the main thing about being an 'MC' type person is that you can't hide from other people. There's just no way. There is no blending into the wall (though I have mastered that for short amounts of time). People always seem to have a very strong opinion about the things I do (or the things I DON'T do, but am alleged to do). ALSO, I think that people tend to blur my choice of career with the person that I AM. That's just what it seems like sometimes anyway... Of course, I am in the mental health professions and I work for non-profits, so people see me either as the analyzer or the healer (or a bit of both). Not always a bad thing... Just sometimes a pain. IP: Logged |
Diabla
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posted June 09, 2011 12:03 AM
I have Mars in Scorpio (XI) conjunct Scorp MC 0ºI always wondered how that really affected me. I had changed a lot my idea on what career to follow.
Plust my 10th house Uranus complicates it- lol I definitely dont like working in a subordinate position. (I have done it) - but cant stand it anymore. I want be my boss and follow my own "rules".
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Ami Anne
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posted June 09, 2011 08:24 AM
This thread has helped me so much.I am gonna be back to ask you some questions about Pluto conjunct the MC.
Thank you again for all your wonderful comments  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Betty Boop
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posted June 09, 2011 08:41 AM
As a few people have said - MC stands for career.
If you have your exact time of birth, and you definitely have a planet conjunct MC - That planet will tell you soooo much about your career. I mean it is 'spot on' for my chart and those I checked. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this.. MC can also be connected to your father figure & all authority figures (the IC is reflective of the mother figure). IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 09, 2011 02:35 PM
Enchantress,what about love life and H10Venus? People always prying,'ooh,who is she dating now' type of inquiries? Impressed by talented,renown men? IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted June 09, 2011 04:49 PM
My son have MC in scorpion in conj to pluto. He also have mars and saturn in scorpio in house 10. He is not afraid to meet the danger. He go deeply into everything. When he was 2 years old he understand more than children who was 5 years old. He was almost always best in school in every subject. IP: Logged |
enchantress299
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posted June 10, 2011 01:32 AM
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Enchantress,what about love life and H10Venus? People always prying,'ooh,who is she dating now' type of inquiries? Impressed by talented,renown men?
Technically my Venus is in the 9th (it's on the opposite side of the MC), BUT because it is so close to the MC it still has aspects of the 10th house Venus (it also sextiles Saturn to the degree, so it reinforces that). Talented, renowned men? Yeah, sort of. I have attracted a couple of wealthy, successful men (more so than 'renowned'). Personally, I think it's silly that I've attracted them since I don't live that lifestyle. My experience has been that they are usually workaholics, and they are often arrogant/egotistical to the extreme. It's not the wealth/success that usually attracts me though... It's the STORIES. I'm attracted to exceedingly intelligent, interesting, versatile men, and often a byproduct of this is success/wealth. I think this has more to do with the fact that my Venus IS in the 9th house and not truly in the 10th. I expect there to be a personal set of values/integrity there. I fear that I tend to attract these men BECAUSE I have that counselor/healer type personality (which again goes along with MY career). They always seem to have this *wounded* thing going on despite their being wealthy/successful, etc. (And yes, Chiron does figure into that aspect as well).
As for the "Who is she dating now?" type thing from others... Hmm... Sort of. My friends understand that I usually date very interesting, unique people. They are often *different* in some way (wealthy or not). So my friends will usually be fairly entertained by the stories of some of the people that I've dated/been romantically interested in. They'll pry a little bit, but I don't think they overdo it. It's the people I DON'T know very well that assume things about me that aren't true. I get along well with everyone, and I often have men flirting with me, but, since I tend to attract super detached types, they usually aren't serious about it, and I don't take it super seriously either... But I can't tell you how many women have shot me the look of death. I usually ignore it.  I think some people take my friendliness the wrong way too and read way more into it than is actually there. So, I have become a somewhat contentious figure in the past because of false assumptions. IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted June 10, 2011 10:04 AM
I don't aspect the MC or AC as you would have to aspect all the other house cusps. Aspect the MC ruler, yeah.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 10, 2011 10:25 AM
Coffee
If you have a planet in exact conjunction with an angle,don't you count that as significant?------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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