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Topic: 11th House - How do you treat your friends?
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Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7252 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 26, 2011 04:39 AM
Aquarius is on the cusp of my 11th with Saturn there, and there are times when I don't want to see or talk to any of my friends, and I don't even miss them (they can last a very long time). I don't know why, but I can be super detached concerning friendships. And the thing is that it hurts some of my friends, that I can just go into "leave me alone" mode. I try to explain them that it's just how I am, that I can't always be there and that I need a lot of time on my own; but some of them still don't get it and think it's something personal that has to do with them. It's easier for me to keep in touch with friends online, and not in real life (Aquarius is ruled by Uranus - technology) but I still can't figure out why? Sometimes it seems to me that I won't be able to have any real life friends because after some time I get so weird and I end up just cutting them off for no reason. I don't quite understand my behaviour myself, it's just that maintaining friendships is too much for me, I have no problem initiating them, but then I just get aloof and cold, and want to be left alone.Is it because of Saturn/Aquarius on the cusp? I feel like I have a schizoid personality, sometimes. * Do you relate to your 11th house and how you treat your friends? Or do you think there are other factors to take into account when looking at friendships? IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 2598 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 04:52 AM
got scorpio on 11nth house cusp and also have mars and pluto in there so there is alot of possesivness in my friendships but i have always been loyal to them to the fault and would always support them when neededbut i have some problems there too mostly when i see the friendship has no use....its done for good we dont talk or write to each other and the connection fades like we never met also i can be quite aggressive with my friend whem im angry.....sometimes throwing sarcastic remarks i feel sorry for saying after any other people with 11nth house scorpio? will be glad to meet <3 <3 ------------------ chart info: sun + mercury in libra moon in leo venus+mars+pluto in scorpio saturn in pieces jupiter in sag uranus+neptune in cap IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 04:57 AM
hmm.. i dunno. i think i am similar to you but i'm a virgo 11th houser. i don't really care about their daily lives like what they had for lunch lol! i am a bit exclusive. ruler is in 6th so maybe work friends. but i just hangout with whoever i happen to be with. when i went to school it was my classmates or teammates, now i guess work friends. If Virgo is on the 11th house cusp, you are fussy about the company you keep. You are a practical and caring friend, often looking after the daily details of friends’ lives. You exert yourself for your friends, especially those who need help. You cultivate friends through your work, and utilize the practical ideas and skills of your associates. You are an asset to any group or club. You may be critical of friends who fail to live up to your expectations. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 04:57 AM
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Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7252 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 26, 2011 05:00 AM
I have a friend with Scorpio in the 11th and Pluto there, and we've just had a disagreement because she is intense in her friendships and I am not. She wants to see me regularly and I can't maintain a regular friendship, like she wants me to. She can be really aggressive and sarcastic, too, and unfortunately she gets upset because I am so distant.. I don't know how to make her understand that that's the way I am.IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 05:06 AM
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lilithpluto Knowflake Posts: 2348 From: pluto Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 05:11 AM
I have my sun in the 11th house. It means I treat my friends pretty well, right? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 5292 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 26, 2011 05:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by lilithpluto: I have my sun in the 11th house. It means I treat my friends pretty well, right?
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doommlord Moderator Posts: 2598 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 05:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: I have a friend with Scorpio in the 11th and Pluto there, and we've just had a disagreement because she is intense in her friendships and I am not. She wants to see me regularly and I can't maintain a regular friendship, like she wants me to. She can be really aggressive and sarcastic, too, and unfortunately she gets upset because I am so distant.. I don't know how to make her understand that that's the way I am.
well...from my experience as a person with 11th house scorpio i dont think that trying to convince her to deal with who you are will be helpfull cause ahe will probably walk away and you wont hear from her anymore i had a friend for 7 years who was my closest friend also and he had some rough period and i helped him get through that and then he changed and started pusing me to change to what he belived was right and that just ****** me off.... one day i just told him not to talk to me anymore and he was kind of shocked and we didnt spoke or saw each other since but thats mine experience...your friend is a different person and might react differently to the situation i hope it will work out between the two of you ------------------ chart info: sun + mercury in libra moon in leo venus+mars+pluto in scorpio saturn in pieces jupiter in sag uranus+neptune in cap IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7252 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 26, 2011 05:37 AM
RegardesPlatero and doommlord, thank you for your input.I hope things will work out, but even if they don't, I won't feel really affected by it (I know this sounds awful, but I'm just being honest). * So far it seems that the 11th house is indeed connected to the way we treat our friends. And I am not really good at it (Saturn, duh). IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 2598 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 06:04 AM
how stupid of me XDi forgot to notice i have jupiter in 11th too but its at the very end of the house does it mean its also on house 12 or it is just in house 11? ------------------ chart info: sun + mercury in libra moon in leo venus+mars+pluto in scorpio saturn in pieces jupiter in sag uranus+neptune in cap IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 06:20 AM
11th house cusp in Sag and Sun in (very early) Sag in my 10th house too. I like to have fun with my friends and my friendships are very central in my life. My Jup (ruler of my Sun) is in Libra so I find I relate as a Libran; fairness and smooth relationships with people I like and love are very important to me. I'm also an Aqua rising with Mars conj ASC and trining Uranus in Libra. So the Libra theme repeats itself in friendship for me...IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7252 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 26, 2011 06:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by doommlord:
but its at the very end of the house does it mean its also on house 12 or it is just in house 11?
Yes it means that it is both in the 11th and the 12th, but even more in the 12th. * anongirl, did you mean to say your Sun is in the 11th too, instead of the 10th?
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RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 06:46 AM
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lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 1108 From: she doesn't know that i left my urge in the icebox Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 06:47 AM
depends on my mood I basically see them for a day or talk to them for a few hours and then I really kind or forget themand then speak to them when I feel like it. lost loads of friends because of it. IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 2598 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 06:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: Opinions vary. I personally use the whole sign system, so if two planets are in the same sign, they are always in the same house. With other systems, I personally feel that if something is at the end of a house, it is still in that house. It's kind of how I feel about people who are born near the days that a sun sign changes: you're one sign and one sign only. So, I view it the same way: a planet can only be in one house, and one house only. However, that's just my own opinion. As you're new to astrology, I encourage you to look at different ideas and come to your own conclusions; not trying to force my views or anything. You'll find that there are varying opinions on some issues in astrology (such as which house system to use, cusps, etc.). So, lots of ideas out there waiting to be explored, and of course people can always agree to disagree and discuss differing opinions peacefully and respectfully ;-)
thank you very much for giving me an anwser so soon! looking around interpretations of jupiter in 11th and 12th house it seems they fit me both somehow XD ------------------ chart info: sun + mercury in libra moon in leo venus+mars+pluto in scorpio saturn in pieces jupiter in sag uranus+neptune in cap IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7252 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 26, 2011 06:53 AM
lindisfarne, that sounds familiar, not exactly how I'd put it but yeah. It must be the Aquarius, then. IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan unregistered
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posted December 26, 2011 12:53 PM
Neptune in the 11th Capricorn on the 11th CuspI'm very discriminate in deciding on friendships. I will be friends with everyone or anyone (Aquarius Rising) however I only sustain long term friendships with about 1 or 2 people. Give me two or 3 good friends over one hundred acquaintances. I'm self sacrificing in friendships therefore it's important for me to be very discriminate with who I trust and sustain friendships with. I give a lot in friendships and relationships in general. I'm generous, open, outgoing, friendly and empathetic with my friends. I really enjoy just having 1 or 2 good friends. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6625 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 01:02 PM
Friends? What friends? I'm joking My Venus in Aquarius is in the 12th House on the border of the 11th House, and my Saturn is there too. The only true friends I have are all women, and they treat me very well and I treat them very affectionately, with rational boundaries. Affectionate speech and affectionate gestures flow freely and emotional intimacy is deep, again with boundaries. Women who can't handle this type of friendship usually quickly freak out and it never works out. Unfortunately, I don't get along with men and emerging friendships usually end up in total disaster, so I've stopped even trying. I mostly end up cold to men. I'm fundamentally a loner, so I like operating alone, but friends are nice to have when you need to count on them. I'm a sociable person but I'm not social. If you are not a great friend, I view you just as a hinderance. I have no patience for superficiality and no desire for popularity. IP: Logged |
Wild Places Knowflake Posts: 500 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 05:30 PM
Sun, Mercury, and Mars in Aquarius. Also, talking Asteroids: I've got Vesta and Ceres in Aquarius (this is my 11th House -- I always forget to add that)...Friendships are how I understand the world, they are how I understand myself, they are the most fulfilling relationships in my life (more fulfilling than love, than family, and definitely more so than WORK - blechh)... I LOVE to give of myself to my friends - when I was younger, I struggled to understand how not everyone could feel the same as I could regarding friendships and their importance in life. Now that I'm older, and have perspective, I don't take people's unique perspectives personally, and this helps me to enjoy my diverse friends even more. I LOVE all friends equally and immensely - be they new acquaintances, or old school friends. If, however, someone crosses a boundary of mine in terms of respect - they will never ever be dead to me - but the friendship resembles something that feels hollow to me. The trust for me is gone - which is essential to any relationship. I have a very resilient heart though, and forgive most grievances. I remain friends with all former lovers. My progressed Venus is Conjunct (less than 1 degree) my Mars in 11th House Aqua right now. I consider friendship to be the ultimate form of love and the perfect basis for a relationship as well! Also, since my mid-twenties, I've become a home-base for many of my friends (lots of modern-day gypsies!), and I love to entertain and cook for just about anyone. It is such a great feeling. Guess I'm coming into my Cancer Moon a bit too... : ) Also, like RegardesPlatero, I'm a HUGE communicator, clearly verbose, if you want to break my heart or drive me crazy, just ignore me - give me the silent treatment. It's complete torture. I could go on...but it seems a bit much, doesn't it? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 7252 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 26, 2011 05:50 PM
Thank you guys for all the answers, very interesting! It's funny how we're all different.
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ElizabethO Knowflake Posts: 591 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 26, 2011 06:03 PM
I have an empty 11th house but its ruler is my Cancer Sun. My friendships are like batteries: full of energy in the beginning but when the lights go out... the friendship fizzles out. Or gets put in a drawer to be forgoteen. Something like that. It's a mutual thing that occurs, so I'm sure there's heavy karma there.IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2549 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 27, 2011 03:30 AM
I have saturn and pluto in the 11th so when I decide to be best friends with someone is like getting involved in a serious relationship that will last 10 years at least were sex may or not be involved.Saturn doesn't make commitments lightly and the ones that it makes it takes extremely seriously and pluto in the 11th attracts intense friendships that transform me and sometimes this manifests, sometimes, with lovers turning into friends or friends turning into lovers. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2549 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 27, 2011 03:32 AM
11th cusp in libra:I am the type to make more friends through people I am already close friends with and the type who doesn't get jealous if my best friend has another best friend and would end up been really close friends with her other bf....libra in the 11th really just wants everyone to get along and like each other LOL. Edit: However in romance bc of my 5th cusp in aries I like to be number one lol. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 27, 2011 03:41 AM
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