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athenegoddess
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posted January 19, 2012 01:58 PM
  
Are you materialistic?
If you are, what placements do you have?I have Jupiter in Taurus in the 8th house and I get taken care of in my life.. materialistic wise. And I find myself wanting material stuff, but I know I CANNOT want this stuff. Because desire is the source of all suffering.. Yet my Jupiter in Taurus wants the stuff. Lol... It satisfies some type of desire I have for beauty. I know my Libra ASC comes into play as well.. The stuff I want are things that have to do with my appearance. What to do!!! how to stop the physical from hurting the spiritual! IP: Logged |
Fondue Knight
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posted January 19, 2012 02:03 PM
I have Venus/NN in Taurus in the 5th square Jupiter in Aqua in the 2nd. I like high quality things, but having too many possessions makes me antsy. If I were to win the lottery I would probably blow my money buying things for other people. I've learned through necessity that I can survive just fine without having a ton of nice things. When I was younger I wanted everything and spent beyond my means, which led to having to exist living frugally.  IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 19, 2012 02:12 PM
Very, and my wife is extremely.I'm a Capricorn Sun/Mars/Mercury in 10th House, Venus/Saturn in Aquarius in 12th, and an Aries Jupiter in 2nd House. Wife is a Leo Sun in 3rd House, Leo Mars in 2nd House, Virgo Jupiter/Venus in 3rd House. For me, success and fulfillment of ambition drives happiness, and it unfortunately drives materialism. For my wife, materialism itself drives happiness directly. Not saying that its great or healthy, but that's just the way it is. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted January 19, 2012 02:18 PM
Jup in Libra in the 8th. I like nice things.
I can be materialistic but I can also do without much. Basically what I want is security (Taurus Moon and Saturn in Taurus). IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted January 19, 2012 02:32 PM
Yes, material stuff does make me happy. But something is missing afterwards and I always notice once I get something I had been wanting, as soon as I get it, I want the next thing.  IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 19, 2012 02:33 PM
And you got that right. At one point in our life, there were just two of us but we had six cars and yet we wanted more. There is never a point of satisfaction. She has a walk-in shoe and handbag closet. Does that say something? It's like a cancer that grows.IP: Logged |
tautomer4314
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posted January 19, 2012 02:39 PM
Put simply, I like nice things. Always have, always will. definitely quality over quanity. I don't need many things in my life, but I do need nice things. Good food is one of the biggest for me. I spend the vast majority of my money on going out to eat. I love gormet food. As for placements, I believe it comes from having venus conjunct jupiter in gemini in the 8th house. Then jupitsr trine my libra ascendent. I'm also a taurus so i do have a penchant for seeking comfort. Would i consider myself materialistic though? Nope. From my perspective, materialisitc people are never satisfied witu the things they have. I am easily satisfied. ------------------
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Heartless
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posted January 19, 2012 02:58 PM
is it a purely Jupiter and H8 thing? i've got Jupiter in Cap/H3 and Venus in Taurus/H8.can't stress enough how much i like beautiful things of quality! in no particular order: aesthetics, quality and substance. i don't have a lot of 'things' but what i have i love so dearly because they're hard to find, and when they are about to break i get all worked up knowing i won't find a replacement! (coincidentally i would like the exact same qualities in people and have the same problem) IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted January 19, 2012 03:06 PM
I like quality over quantity too...IP: Logged |
sand
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posted January 19, 2012 03:27 PM
     i think it's possible for me not to be when i am in love becuase i have moon square venus. i read from cafe astrology in the abscence of love moon square venus often try to replace it with food or shopping. but then most of the women i date have been a bit on the materialistic/ security oriented side even if in an indirect manner.. what else.. jupiter in cap h3 uranus in h2 conj south node. north node in h8 gemini conj chiron. and sun and venus in taurus for the material placements.. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 19, 2012 03:40 PM
Quality costs a lot, sometimes We have constant home improvement projects, and it never ends. Like I always say, can't take it with us when we die. Talking about material/security, it was very clear with my Mrs. No money = no honey. That means, for what it's worth, no money = no marriage. We live in the practical world. I wasn't going to get married and then live in a dump. Come to think of it, I've not had a single serious girlfriend who's not been interested in my career nor earnings capacity. Its just whom I attract and who I am attracted to, I guess. Like I said, I'm more attracted to success than material items. Having said that, I like good food, and delicious food sometimes costs a bit. IP: Logged |
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posted January 19, 2012 04:42 PM
WIth Pisces ruling my 2nd house, no. I've never been able to hold onto material objects or possessions either.IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted January 19, 2012 04:57 PM
Honestly, I'd say semi-materialistic.I want enough to be secure and comfortable. I don't need to have like luxury cars or anything, but I do feel a strong desire to have basic needs met plus a few comforts. I constantly fear homelessness and poverty and feel grateful to have a place to live and basic needs met.
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birdy
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posted January 19, 2012 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Honestly, I'd say semi-materialistic.I want enough to be secure and comfortable. I don't need to have like luxury cars or anything, but I do feel a strong desire to have basic needs met plus a few comforts.
Exactly. Thats how I feel. I love thrift stores, coupons, saving money, but I like quality as well. I dont like buying cr@p. I like to think Im semi materialistic but down to earth about it. Aries 2nd/Libra 8th. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 19, 2012 05:20 PM
Doesn't it depend on what one considers to be "security?" Women are mostly concerned about "security," but that term can mean a lot of things. I know quite a number of women who would outright say... I'm not living in X neighborhood or a home with less than X amount of space, etc. Try feeding a date the dollar menu items at McDonald's. A non-materialistic woman would say, sure, its food. More likely than not, I ain't getting a second date. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted January 19, 2012 05:26 PM
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 19, 2012 05:42 PM
Well RegardesPlatero,I suppose different women have different interpretations of what constitutes "security.". For what it's worth, my wife would disagree with you there, and some of my ex-girlfriends would be much worse.
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RegardesPlatero
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posted January 19, 2012 05:49 PM
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 19, 2012 05:55 PM
Of course. Goes without saying. IP: Logged |
pandacake
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posted January 20, 2012 08:19 AM
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lilithpluto
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posted January 20, 2012 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Come to think of it, I've not had a single serious girlfriend who's not been interested in my career nor earnings capacity. Its just whom I attract and who I am attracted to, I guess.Like I said, I'm more attracted to success than material items. Having said that, I like good food, and delicious food sometimes costs a bit.
Honestly, I've been told I'm stupid for not being materalistic, that coming from a GUY somemore. Yeah, a girl who doesn't want those is really stupid.  I am satisfied with above the average lifestyle... food on the table, to buy what I want, travel where I want, see the people I want, do what I want. I really am clueless about branded... neither do my sisters buy branded despite having a really good salary as bankers. I dun own branded items. The only money I ever happily spend on are for travelling.  Honestly, in my view, it doesn't make sense to judge a guy based on his money or career. A girl will grow old and his heart may grow cold. Afterall, money can only satisfied so much. Successful men have capabilities and determination and aura of self-assurances, confidence and charisma. That's very attractive. I am attracted to succesful men but not the money. I feel I can learn so much from them. In fact, I shunned out guys who used their careers/money to impress.. pretty much shows that they have nothing else to show.  I believe so for the girls you dated that they liked the can-do attitude that you have, makes them feel very secured. It's not the money but the ability to make money that is attractive. Jupiter & Saturn in Virgo in the 12th house. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted January 20, 2012 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Doesn't it depend on what one considers to be "security?" Women are mostly concerned about "security," but that term can mean a lot of things. I know quite a number of women who would outright say... I'm not living in X neighborhood or a home with less than X amount of space, etc. Try feeding a date the dollar menu items at McDonald's. A non-materialistic woman would say, sure, its food. More likely than not, I ain't getting a second date.
Lol...The guy I was hopelessly in love with did not bring me to fancy restaurants nor bought me anything compared to the rest of those who pursued me.. love has a reason that we know nothing of. I just like his mind; I like his good heart!! I blame it on my venus in gemini in the 9th house!! I should have demanded more!! I'm sooooooo stupid!!! I Know!!!
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 20, 2012 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
I am satisfied with above the average lifestyle... food on the table, to buy what I want, travel where I want, see the people I want, do what I want. I really am clueless about branded... neither do my sisters buy branded despite having a really good salary as bankers. I dun own branded items. The only money I ever happily spend on are for travelling.
Yeah.. travel where ever you want, do whatever you want and eat what you want... how you figure that it's cheap doing that? Yeah... a week in St. Tropez, Nice, Cannes and Monaco... plus shopping... how much is that even on a very modest level? Ever flown business/first class on SG or private jet? It goes to your head quickly IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 20, 2012 09:48 AM
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I should have demanded more!! I'm sooooooo stupid!!! I Know!!!
Show me the 5Cs, baby!! IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 20, 2012 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Honestly, I've been told I'm stupid for not being materalistic, that coming from a GUY somemore. Yeah, a girl who doesn't want those is really stupid.
There's the reverse situation that really gets my goat. This is with regard to a girlfriend of the same ethnicity. I got her a watch for her birthday. She remarked that the watch was at the lower end of the particular model line, never mind that it cost as much as a European vacation or a cheap *new* car in the US. And then she brought it to the store to verify that it is genuine. I stopped contacting her right away. IP: Logged |
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