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Faith
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posted March 19, 2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone,

Unfortunately, a situation came up lately where one poster on this forum began using another poster's birth chart to try and substantiate some pretty harsh criticism.

Please, in the interest of engendering trust and functionality here, let's not ever tolerate the rough handling of one another's birth information.

If someone persists in doing so, contrary to the express wishes of moderators, then this whole environment becomes troubled. Speaking for myself, I will not divulge my birth data until I can rest assured that no one here will use the information maliciously. Or, if they repeatedly do so, banning will go into effect.

As things stand I do not have that assurance but I hope that in stating my case, in the hopes of defending another who's been subjected to what I consider abuse, I hope the situation can be resolved.

No offense intended here for anyone, sincerely.

Best wishes to you all~
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lilithpluto
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posted March 19, 2012 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Faith, I understand your kind intentions and your protectiveness of a friend but isn't writing a thread based on it as singling out a person and making things difficult for her to return to the forum by cornering her ?

I believe Randall and the moderators are doing a fantastic job at preserving an atmosphere of trust... let them do the job.

Forgive me again, my flaw. It's my overactive libra effect at work. iQ has warned me about my Karma in Libra to balance balance balance balance. (Yes, he typed "balance" 3x in one sentence )

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Randall
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posted March 19, 2012 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, and this will not be tolerated. Anyone can e-mail me through the Contact Form if you see abuses. That includes posting charts without someone's permission (which I have deleted on behalf of the postee).

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Ami Anne
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posted March 19, 2012 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread, Faith. Thanks for putting it on!

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SaggiMC
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posted March 19, 2012 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a thread in LL Central http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/003277.html

discussing things like this should be done privately or behind the scenes, instead of starting vendettas and witch hunting like this..

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Randall
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posted March 19, 2012 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No names are mentioned, so it isn't a witch hunt. Best that it be on public view, so that everyone can see the issue and the site's stance on it.

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posted March 19, 2012 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your replies.

Edit: Randall and I were writing at the same time and he said it better than I could.

Thank you!

Namaste, all.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 19, 2012 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Thank you for your replies.

Edit: Randall and I were writing at the same time and he said it better than I could.

Thank you!

Namaste, all.



Randall has so much wisdom. I have such a long way to go but at least I can screw up and change course like a GPS system

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posted March 19, 2012 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a perfect example of why a PM would be a bad idea. In PM, names would no doubt be mentioned, drama would unfold, and the anger towards people involved would find its way on the Forums.

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posted March 19, 2012 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Hi Faith, I understand your kind intentions and your protectiveness of a friend but isn't writing a thread based on it as singling out a person and making things difficult for her to return to the forum by cornering her ?

I believe Randall and the moderators are doing a fantastic job at preserving an atmosphere of trust... let them do the job.

Forgive me again, my flaw. It's my overactive libra effect at work. iQ has warned me about my Karma in Libra to balance balance balance balance. (Yes, he typed "balance" 3x in one sentence )


Exactly, I've seen this kind of witch hunting on other forums... not nice at all. That's why PM private mail, members could PM moderators. It wasn't until recently I learning that at the top of each forum the moderators have links to their email addresses..

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Ami Anne
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posted March 19, 2012 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
This is a perfect example of why a PM would be a bad idea. In PM, names would no doubt be mentioned, drama would unfold, and the anger towards people involved would find its way on the Forums.



I agree about PM's. It foments rather than quiets ime.

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Faith
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posted March 20, 2012 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
This is a perfect example of why a PM would be a bad idea. In PM, names would no doubt be mentioned, drama would unfold, and the anger towards people involved would find its way on the Forums.


I agree!

I didn't want to go behind someone's back "tattling" on them, it just didn't feel right.

By articulating the problem, I hope it can just be resolved and put behind us. I'm not out to get anyone.

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posted March 20, 2012 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I agree!

I didn't want to go behind someone's back "tattling" on them, it just didn't feel right.

By articulating the problem, I hope it can just be resolved and put behind us. I'm not out to get anyone.



LL is a very upfront and direct place. Any community has to discuss things as we are people and people are complicated and have things that need to be worked out. Faith, you were right in bringing this out as all things must be discussed in any community, family or friendship! Things not discussed and left to ferment just explode anyway, so there is not way around it than to be up front imo

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posted March 20, 2012 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

LL is a very upfront and direct place. Any community has to discuss things as we are people and people are complicated and have things that need to be worked out. Faith, you were right in bringing this out as all things must be discussed in any community, family or friendship! Things not discussed and left to ferment just explode anyway, so there is not way around it than to be up front imo



You said it well. Let the community decide what is and is not acceptable. If what is acceptable to the community is not acceptable to me, well, we are not a good match, so I can always just leave, no hard feelings.

But I needed an open conversation to gauge this.

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posted March 20, 2012 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith Sweetie
I wanted to tell you this before I left to go out. I have been at LL for about 3 years. LL under Randalls leadership will let you develop who you are. You may be fun and playful. You may be serious. You may be a Christian. You may be an atheist. Randall allows each person to become his best self. Each person is allowed that. You do not need to stifle your personal expression for anyone! Many people love me for my open expression of emotions( Moon conj MC) Some people find this distasteful but that is life everywhere.One can just strive to be one's own flavor(hazelnut) and one's own color(bright yellow). You have a beautiful spirit Faith. Let it shine

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posted March 20, 2012 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I appreciate that Ami! I edited my comment before I saw yours, thinking it's best to leave the past behind.

And I can tell that, about Randall. So thank you from my heart, Randall.

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posted March 20, 2012 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 20, 2012 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I agree!

I didn't want to go behind someone's back "tattling" on them, it just didn't feel right.

By articulating the problem, I hope it can just be resolved and put behind us. I'm not out to get anyone.


Should this not be a matter for Linderland Central to?

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posted March 20, 2012 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I appreciate that Ami! I edited my comment before I saw yours, thinking it's best to leave the past behind.

And I can tell that, about Randall. So thank you from my heart, Randall.



Well let's see if that's possible for you sweetie, sweetie LOL


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posted March 20, 2012 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Faith Sweetie
I wanted to tell you this before I left to go out. I have been at LL for about 3 years. LL under Randalls leadership will let you develop who you are. You may be fun and playful. You may be serious. You may be a Christian. You may be an atheist. Randall allows each person to become his best self. Each person is allowed that. You do not need to stifle your personal expression for anyone! Many people love me for my open expression of emotions( Moon conj MC) Some people find this distasteful but that is life everywhere.One can just strive to be one's own flavor(hazelnut) and one's own color(bright yellow). You have a beautiful spirit Faith. Let it shine


hopefully this is appropriate for ALL at LL, and not just for Faith or followers but all of us LOL LOL thank you sweetie

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posted March 20, 2012 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Hi Faith, I understand your kind intentions and your protectiveness of a friend but isn't writing a thread based on it as singling out a person and making things difficult for her to return to the forum by cornering her ?

I believe Randall and the moderators are doing a fantastic job at preserving an atmosphere of trust... let them do the job.

Forgive me again, my flaw. It's my overactive libra effect at work. iQ has warned me about my Karma in Libra to balance balance balance balance. (Yes, he typed "balance" 3x in one sentence )


Lilithpluto, before I let this thread drop, I wanted to make clear that I DO appreciate your comment. You were very kind about it.

I love your posts here and genuinely think you are fantastic.

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posted March 20, 2012 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peace, Saggi!

On the Neptune thread, I invited you to continue our discussion on another thread or over private email.

Did you know our north nodes are conjunct?

Oops, I will let YOU decide the orb

But we have stuff to learn from each other.

Thank you.

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posted March 20, 2012 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Saggi
Of course, personal growth applies to everyone. Randall was born to mentor imho. Randall stands by anyone who is genuinely trying to become the best she can be. One does not have to be perfect either or I would not be here. Believe me Don't ask

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posted March 20, 2012 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please rid the atmosphere of hostility and personal criticism. That includes insinuation and innuendo, in addition to unwarranted sacarsm of a caustic nature.

An environment of free and open exchange of ideas and concepts is bound to cause some level of disagreement. However, the constant bickering over who is right and who is wrong over the most subjective of matters is annoying.

These nasty disputes are akin to weeds propagating to impinge on the well ordered flower garden that symbolizes learning and intellectual stimulation.

And enough of the cursory lip service. Its time for action.

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posted March 20, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think everyone had his say. I would like to request that this thread be closed.

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