posted March 23, 2012 08:58 AM            

Positions of Radix and Duads
Applying Duads to the Radix chart is like you are directing a magnifying glass onto a certain sign.
While the planets in the same sign always share basic traits of that sign, there still can be certain modifications of that expression be observed.
Though these modifications have other reasons, too (different aspect picture, houseposition, parallels etc.), I want to focus on the Duads here.
It can be said that Duads colour the expression of the particular sign, adding another nuance.

Example:
A mercury in Aries communicates in direct and sometimes bold ways; he tends to speak first, think later, and especially doesn´t he have concern about other people´s thoughts or how his ideas are received, when he is fired up mentally.
If this Mercury is in Sagittarius Duad (20°-22°30 Aries) , this kind of enthusiasm and directness gets even more emphasized and he might even offend other people with the vehemence he is expressing his ideas that might make them feel as if they have been run over by a train (of thought).

However if his Mercury is in Libra Duad (15°00-17°30 Aries) things are a bit different. He is still direct and straightforward in his enthusiasm, but the Libra influence softens his edges considerably and adds grace and charm to his way of communicating. He will be able to bring his point across in a more diplomatic manner.

posted March 23, 2012 08:59 AM            

Example:
In my chart Venus is in Capricorn and Pisces Duad.
I certainly relate to others in a quiet, controlled, reliable way and may seem pretty selfsufficient and as having high standards.
Even though this is true, it doesn´t tell all of the story. Undertneath that rather pragmatic, careful and apparently realistic kind of relating style, the dreams of and desire for Romance and soulbound relating are boundless.
It is almost as if the Saturnian reasonable, grounded approach protects a hidden vulnerability and idealism.

In that respect the Duad chart on its own would describe a more internal personality, though it has to be seen in context of the Radix planets, which of course play lead guitar!

posted March 23, 2012 08:59 AM            

Example:
In my chart Venus is in Capricorn and Pisces Duad.
I certainly relate to others in a quiet, controlled, reliable way and may seem pretty selfsufficient and as having high standards.
Even though this is true, it doesn´t tell all of the story. Undertneath that rather pragmatic, careful and apparently realistic kind of relating style, the dreams of and desire for Romance and soulbound relating are boundless.
It is almost as if the Saturnian reasonable, grounded approach protects a hidden vulnerability and idealism.

In that respect the Duad chart on its own would describe a more internal personality, though it has to be seen in context of the Radix planets, which of course play lead guitar!

posted March 23, 2012 08:59 AM            

Example:
My Radix Pluto on 9 Libra conjuncts my Duad Sun on 11 Libra
Whenever something touches my Pluto, it also triggers my Duad Sun.

The relationship between Radix planet and Duad planet on the same position in the zodiac is similar to the musical theory of overtones.
If one basic note is hit, it will sound loudly, but simultaneiously an overtone will start to resonate and hum, too, though more in the background (it is only a metaphor here; as the actual theory of overtones probably relates more directly to the astrological harmonics, but as metaphor it will suffice).
Now you have to listen closely to discern the overtone from the basic note, but you will certainly experience it on an emotional level. You will feel it. Both – basic note and overtone- create the whole experience of the sound.
Without the overtone a note would feel flat and onedimensional. Without the basic note you probably would not even hear the overtone, or just very very quietly.
The vibration of note and overtone give a feeling of fullness, completeness. You don´t know what it exactly is that you hear, but both create the acoustic experience and work together as unit, with the Radix position in the foreground taking the lead, while the Duad hums in the background.

Coming back to my example:
It is through Pluto and plutonic experiences that I access my “background note/ identity”. If someone else puts a personal planet onto it, he would trigger my Duad Sun and I feel a vague hard to grasp sense of identification with him, which may surprise me, especially if his Sun doesn´t vibe with my Radix Sun.
There might be a deep resonance with their Radix planet on my Duad Sun, though not easy to consciously understand or verbalize.
Sometimes the harmonizing is with both, Radix position and Duad position of the same planet.
For example someone else´s Radix Sun on 7°25 Libra vibrates with my Duad Sun on 11 Libra, albeit a bit widely, and my Radix Sun on 26 Sag vibes with his Duad Sun on 29 Sagittarius. In this case both of us might feel as if we really “get” each other, maybe feeling understood completely for the very first time (on the solar level in my example).
There also might be considerable fascination, as the Radix person seems to exhibit very openly and naturally the qualities that the Duad person has inside, and which Is usually taking second place to their own Radix position of the Duad planet that is being triggered.

If this connection of Radix to Duad positions between two charts is made of complimentary energies like Sun and Moon, or Venus and Mars, the attraction might get extremely strong, though sometimes inexplainable.

But to even get to my inner identity (Duad Sun), one has to go through my Radix Pluto first. Thus the conjunctions in my chart means that my Pluto carries a bit of my identity inside or a part of my identity is plutonized. I need kathartic and intense experiences to even feel this inner side of my identity. Therefore my Sun has a bit of a Plutonic feel.
In my case you can´t get one without the other.
So actually if someone aspects my Pluto, it is not a Pluto aspect alone, but it is a Pluto-Sun-aspect that is triggered in me, with a Pluto being very big and obvious, but bringing a much less obvious Sun-quality with it.

posted March 23, 2012 09:24 AM            

I do believe that you attract energies associated with your duads, though.

posted March 23, 2012 10:40 AM            

first link has 6pages of info..

at best it's s subtle influence and not observed externally.

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posted March 23, 2012 11:10 AM            

you have a thoughtworthy point there.
I am not yet sure how I stand on this personally.

Maybe you are right; on the other hand I wonder if maybe the signs, no matter if in tropical or in Duad, carry the same "frequency", as they represent the same traits, so it works like an exponentiated manifestation, with less "density" and therefore more subtle.

Unfortunately i cannot draw here, but what I mean is, that we have the one big zodiac with 12 signs, and then we split each sign into an "own zodiac" for every sign, so that we actually have 12 mini zodiacs, as part of "big" zodiac.
The signs, no matter if in the surrounding zodiac or in the 12 little ones, do not change their meaning, the expression just gets more internalized, but the meaning stays basically the same, though ofcourse we really have a melding of two zodiacs here, the one for all signs and one projected onto just one sign.

The question for me is simply: if we project the whole zodiac onto one sign (minimize and multiply it so to speak), why couldn´t we project the little one onto our normal one?
Same process, just backwards.
In my case even though my Sun is in Sagittarius, it does co-resonate with its Duad placement in Libra, and that is something I definitely have experienced over and over again.
Even more interesting (because no radix planet is there, that is getting triggered as well) is my reaction to any Fullmoon or Newmoon that falls onto 25 Leo or Aquarius. Those are such Electric and superemotional Moons for me, which just doesn`t make any sense to be honest, as I do not have any Radix planet there.
But honestly during these nights emotions get so much enlarged and magnified that I decided some years ago to NEVER make a decision on these nights, as I am just too emotional then.
On top of that I tend to get a bit "primadonna-like" in february and august. lol

Of course that is not a "proof", I am simply observing and keeping an open mind. Maybe at the end of it I will come to the conclusion that it`s all hot air, but maybe not. We`ll see.

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lol
I just saw that today the transiting True Node is EXACTLY conjunct my ASC (all tropical ) with no orb at all. I know that is beside the point, but I had totally forgotten about that Nodal transit.

posted March 23, 2012 12:43 PM            

1. my parents: married for 38 years

R a d i x
----------
his Moon opposite her Sun
his Mars conjunct her Saturn
his ASC conjunct her Venus
his Saturn conjunct her Venus
his SN conjunct her Saturn

D U A D S
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his Venus conjunct her Duad-Mars
his Mars opposite her D-Venus
his Pluto pposite her D-Mars
his NN conjunct her D-Venus
his IC conjunct her D-Sun
his MC conjunct her D-NN

his D-DESC conjunct her Saturn

his D-Moon conjunct her D-DESC
his D-Venus opposite her D-Saturn
his D Saturn conjunct her D-Pluto
his D-ASC conjunct her D-Venus
his D-IC conjunct her D-DESC

2. my brother and his girlfriend: a couple for 6 years; moved together about 2 years ago

R a d i x
----------
his Moon conjunct her SN
his Saturn conjunct her Pluto
his ASC conjunct her Sun
his DESC conjunct her Moon

D u a d s
----------

his Sunn opposite her D Mars
his Mars conjunct her D Venus
his Pluto conjunct her D IC
his DESC conjunct her D NN

his D-Sun opposite her Venus
his D-Moon conjunct her ASC
his D-Pluto conjunct her Moon

his D-Venus conjunct her D-Mars
his D-Mars opposite her D-Sun
his D-Pluto conjunct her D-NN
his D-IC conjunct her D-MC

my best friend and her husband: a couple for 12 years; married for 7 years; 2 children

R a d i x
---------
his Sun conjunct her DESC
his Pluto conjunct her Venus and Mars
his ASC conjunct her DESC

D u a d s
----------
his Moon conjunct her D-Venus
his Pluto conjunct her D-Moon
his IC conjunct her D-DESC

his D-Venus conjunct her DESC
his D-Saturn conjunct her Saturn

his D-Moon opposite her D-Pluto
his DMars conjunct her D-NN
his D-Saturn opposite her D-Pluto
his D-Pluto conjunct her D-Mars (and D-Venus with 4 degrees)

4. a friend of mine and her man; have been a couple for 7 years and appear to be still totally in love with each other

R a d i x
-------------
his Sun conjunct her IC
his Venus conjunct her ASC

D u a d s
----------
his Sun conjunct her D-Sunhis Venus conjunct her D-Saturn
his Venus opposite her D-Pluto
his Saturn conjunct her D-ASC
his MC conjunct her D-Moon

his D-Moon conjunct her ASC
his D-Venus conjunct her Venus
his D-Mars conjunct her IC
his D-NN conjunct her NN
his D-ASC conjunct her Sun (orb: 4 degrees though)

posted March 23, 2012 12:57 PM            

"so my sun in taurus acts more like mars in scorpio?
"
I wouldn`t say it acts more like it, Your sun is still in taurus, and that is the overt theme, but the duad represents an "underlying energy".
I am not yet completely sure how oppositions work, but in theory they should work as "illuminators".

"duad moon and radix moon in leo
-albeit different ends of the sign
-does that count as something that intensifies the leo moon?"
Yes.
I guess your Duad Moon must be conjunct my Duad Moon then.

"natal merc in aries/ duad merc in aquarius
-does that mean i'm verbally nicer in a more humanitarian way?
-or smarter?
-do aqua mercs like to shock and say unique things? i think not so much the shock.."
I think it might also a bit more relaxed. Aquarius can detach more easily from being personally "offended". Might be more humanitarian and expanding one`s horizon from oneself to the collective a bit.
I think it is a placement for someone with a very individualistic mindset, who likes to think for themselves instead of blindly following a "Guru".
I don´t think it really is a "shock-factor", though unique and independent could be.

"duad venus in cancer/ radix venus in taurus
-added emphasis on nurturing?"
Yes.

"duad mars on my cancer mc
-so my own mars acts more like a mars in cancer?
-or people see mars in cancer in me in public?
"
There is an underlying Cancerian energy to your Mars, making it more caring.
Since it is conjunct your MC, it might be in the line of work and public that this subtle Martian influence "wakes up".

"duad uranus on my dc
-this make total sense. i like them abit eccentric to match my uranus unaspected singleton.
-could also mean sudden endings and all that other stuff ryt?
-detachment?"
Anything`s possible with uranus. lol
It could be that it is in relationship that you meet this part of yourself (of course keep in mind that this is "only" the Duad, the dominant theme is there where Radix Uranus sits).

"to on my neptune
-pluto kills so no faith, fantasies, dreams? (got the interp from a transit as conjunct is impossible)"
Nah, Pluto does not always kill, he transforms. Have you ever had psychic experiences

?

"uad ac on my saturn
-i guess similar to what i alredy have, h1 saturn.."
Yes.