posted March 26, 2012 07:43 AM            

Though I don't seem to have problems with anyone

*** Oh and I have my MIDHEAVEN conjuncting my pluto and sometimes their pluto , what about it ????

posted March 26, 2012 07:48 AM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Heyy
I have a venus (in taurus) opposing my pluto.
And since pluto in scorpio is a generational aspect , I will be having this venus opposite pluto aspect with most of my classmates ...
how does that aspect work ? is it a problem ? and how can I work it out ...

Though I don't seem to have problems with anyone

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posted March 26, 2012 08:14 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i have the same thing except its the square and i have it with almost all people born in the same year,its not a good thing,lots of mind games,manipulation etc.

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posted March 26, 2012 08:17 AM            

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Originally posted by s4nd:
have that too but i am a guy. iv never attracted manipulative people.

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posted March 26, 2012 08:32 AM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
do you feel sometimes that people hate you for no apparent reason ... and others suddenly get interested in you ???
Agree with you on the mind games thing ... especially with the opposite gender !

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posted March 26, 2012 08:55 AM            

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Originally posted by s4nd:
have that too but i am a guy. iv never attracted manipulative people.

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posted March 26, 2012 09:32 AM            

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Originally posted by s4nd:
opposition. pluto in scorpio on asc h1- venus in taurus on dc h7. they're also my strongest planets.

like how? what is a mind game? leading you on or something like that?

i think i am a bit demanding and obsessive and possessive too..i mean i'm chill now coz i'm dating but when i'm in a relationship eek hehe! i think when the scorpio stuff come out abit they get abit shocked coz i am more aloof in the early stages.

oh links btw..
http://sasstrology.com/2011/12/the-fine-line-between-pleasure-and-pain-venus-o pposite-pluto.html
http://sasstrology.com/2011/06/venus-square-pluto-third-parties.html

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their pluto will conj. your ASC... hmm I guess you stimulate fear and intense feelings in them ?? and maybe make them want to know you more ? or maybe some will get obsessed about you ...
Lol am just trying to related the things I learn

what is your sun sign btw ?

posted March 26, 2012 09:58 AM            

Though I don't seem to have problems with anyone

*** Oh and I have my MIDHEAVEN conjuncting my pluto and sometimes their pluto , what about it ????"

Vicky, you seem on the young side, concerned about your classmates and such! So consider yourself to have a lifetime of learning ahead of you about how to handle the subconscious urges that will be played out in your relationships. Most likely you will be attracted to partners from this age group, since you are set up to have intense encounters with them. You will probably attract both love and hate and through these encounters grow to love your own intensity and learn the consequences of manipulation and "mind games". Some would tell you to stay away from your age group when it comes to love, and you may do that at some point, but it wouldn't be any fun not to get involved in some Venus-Pluto! When it comes to day-to-day friendships, just start watching what exactly it is that you are attracted to in friends and how you respond to others. Any instant hatred may be the other feeling the possibility of being manipulated by you or just being afraid of your unconscious power over them. Pluto for most people (I have heard some claim they are in control of it, and frankly I don't believe it, but I can't speak for them) rules the unconscious depths and this is what is in play for you so it takes a lot of learning and self-examination to master this and your age-mates will give you plenty of opportunity to develop in this way!

posted March 26, 2012 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemma Dilemma:
"I have a venus (in taurus) opposing my pluto.
And since pluto in scorpio is a generational aspect , I will be having this venus opposite pluto aspect with most of my classmates ...
how does that aspect work ? is it a problem ? and how can I work it out ...

Though I don't seem to have problems with anyone

*** Oh and I have my MIDHEAVEN conjuncting my pluto and sometimes their pluto , what about it ????"

Vicky, you seem on the young side, concerned about your classmates and such! So consider yourself to have a lifetime of learning ahead of you about how to handle the subconscious urges that will be played out in your relationships. Most likely you will be attracted to partners from this age group, since you are set up to have intense encounters with them. You will probably attract both love and hate and through these encounters grow to love your own intensity and learn the consequences of manipulation and "mind games". Some would tell you to stay away from your age group when it comes to love, and you may do that at some point, but it wouldn't be any fun not to get involved in some Venus-Pluto! When it comes to day-to-day friendships, just start watching what exactly it is that you are attracted to in friends and how you respond to others. Any instant hatred may be the other feeling the possibility of being manipulated by you or just being afraid of your unconscious power over them. Pluto for most people (I have heard some claim they are in control of it, and frankly I don't believe it, but I can't speak for them) rules the unconscious depths and this is what is in play for you so it takes a lot of learning and self-examination to master this and your age-mates will give you plenty of opportunity to develop in this way!

As for the MC, well, stay away from them in your career or expect power struggles in that realm! Also, in a way, possibly your mother/father axis and issues are continually moving into the mix with others. Just wait until you're out of school and mixing with people of other ages, you'll find it a lot more relaxing, I think. Just talking off the top of my head, for what it's worth.

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posted March 26, 2012 10:49 AM            

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Originally posted by s4nd:
ima taurus sun, moon leo, scorp ac..

oh i'm not sure about that yet but iv looked into it..

"I've read somewhere that the ascendant person can be manipulated (for good or bad) to change or be under the control of the Pluto person. This interaction validates Pluto and strengthens teh ascendant. It's transformational, could be power/control issues or sexual ties or both. Possibly a soul mate indicator?" http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017418.html

In his chart he has Pluto (transformation, also control) focused in his 12th house (spirituality, also confusion) conjunct (energy is combined with) Ascendant (self). So, perhaps on one level he is confused about control issues, or on another level feels that he needs to "get control" (connect Pluto into his Ascendant). http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008746.html

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I don't think that having pluto conjuncting your ASC in scorpio makes you easy to be manipulated by people ... I think it works the other way around ... you have the power to control and even transform people or make them aware of their dark side ... check this it might be true :
Pluto conj. ASC
"An undercurrent of intensity runs through you which you may not even be consciously aware of. Other people sense that you have a powerful will and that you're not opposed to exerting it when what you perceive to be your own survival is at stake. Your drive and dedication toward the completion of goals is formidable and, as such, quitting is not usually a natural concept for you. You are a complex person. Even those who are very close to you will only understand a fraction of the real you. At some point, your whole outlook on life will completely transform itself. The process may not be easy, but you'll emerge a completely changed person on some level of your innermost self."

plus pluto in your 1st house makes you magnetic

posted March 26, 2012 11:19 AM            

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Originally posted by s4nd:
oh for sure i am like that but everyone born around me is scorpio dominant as well at least the ones born earlier in my year. best not to underestimate anyone's capabilities.

what gem said tho is true iv never dated a venus plutonian person. iv only dated 1 pluto in scorp and 1 again now but in between pluto in the earlier signs. tho i am not far from pluto in libra.

oh i also noticed the women had very intense friendships. i dunno y. i know a venus opp pluto and a venus square pluto both in scorpio. they're very possesive as friends.

aqua rising cuute hehe! i love your last name. madness lol!

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aha true ...
My relationship with guys my age always seem to have a massive amount of tension ... and whenever I love someone I like to put him in a cage and no one shall reach him except me but in friendship I don't get too possessive

what about pluto squ. ASC in a natal and synastry ?

posted March 26, 2012 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
pluto is definitely dangerous

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posted March 26, 2012 07:20 PM            

I have Venus in Scorpio tightly conjunct Pluto and Scorpio is my IV house, my IC.

I don't necessarily think that Venus opposite Pluto will offer too many problems with your classmates. Venus is quite a peaceful planet and will spark feelings rather than actions, e.g. Mars opposite Pluto. I think it is likely that there may be some discomfort with certain people who will feel this connection with you more strongly than others but for the most part it will build attraction between you and other people. When I say attraction I mean it will simply be an interest in you, at least to begin with. Since Pluto is generally an undercurrent, subconcious more than concious, people may not necessarily know what makes you initially so interesting to them. Anyway, I don't think there is too much cause to worry about it. If anything it is something to be happy about, for any kind of relationship you found, whether acquaintance, friendship or more will never be boring as you will always be sparking interest with that opposition.

I think one of the issues with having Venus in Scorpio or perhaps any personal planet in Scorpio is not that you are prone to being placed in issues of control or power struggles. I believe the reality is that a Scorpio's sense of these everyday control issues and power struggles are heightened and taken in a far more negative manner. Everyone goes through these things throughout their lives. Scorpio's just take far more notice of them, for better or worse. This may be in part due to the emotional response of Scorpio's towards these issues which are generally emotional in their own right.

In my own experiences with Scorpio Venus conjunct Pluto, I never paid that much attention in my earlier years but people were drawn to me and attracted to me on some level. When I look back now, people always use to come to me and talk to me about problems and troubles in their lives. People have always been, what I consided overly, kind to me. During my time in high school I never knew that the majority of girls kept tabs on me. I only had one relationship in high school that didn't last too long, but I was told at the end of my high school time that all the girls were keenly interested when it began, and interested when it finished. Please don't misinterpret, they weren't throwing themselves at my feet, or necessarily even talking to me. They just took a keen interest in what I was up to.

I have noticed this trend continue with people feeling comfortable around me or interested in me. In my 2nd year at University 3 of the girls who played in the Badminton team were in their final year and at the end of the year they all came over said it was their last year and then kinda just waited. Considering I didn't really spend that much time with them over the 2 years I was quite surprised they would come over to me and eventually invite me to go out and celebrate their goodbye.

I don't know what it is but Venus Pluto aspects are always bringing people together. It seems as if there is just something irresistible about the Venus person. I would describe it as a predator stalking prey. I have met people who have had Venus in Taurus or other Venus aspects to my Pluto and there is just something there, like a thread tying two points together.

Anyway, sum of it all is; don't be discouraged or think negatively on your Venus Pluto opposition. I'm sure it will bring more positives into your life. Think positively and approach life with a positive outlook

posted March 26, 2012 10:34 PM            

I can relate as I have the Venus in Aries opposition to Pluto in Libra - one generation ahead of you young, whipper-snappers -- with your Pluto's in Scorpio.

Like you & others, I've experienced immediate fascination and intense interest coming from both sexes, as well as having felt my own in regards to others. I can honestly say it's been one of the most challenging yet rewarding aspects to have.

posted March 27, 2012 12:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Swift Freeze:
This would make you an Aqua ascendant with a Scorpio MC right? My opposite, since i'm a Leo Ascendant Taurus MC

I have Venus in Scorpio tightly conjunct Pluto and Scorpio is my IV house, my IC.

I don't necessarily think that Venus opposite Pluto will offer too many problems with your classmates. Venus is quite a peaceful planet and will spark feelings rather than actions, e.g. Mars opposite Pluto. I think it is likely that there may be some discomfort with certain people who will feel this connection with you more strongly than others but for the most part it will build attraction between you and other people. When I say attraction I mean it will simply be an interest in you, at least to begin with. Since Pluto is generally an undercurrent, subconcious more than concious, people may not necessarily know what makes you initially so interesting to them. Anyway, I don't think there is too much cause to worry about it. If anything it is something to be happy about, for any kind of relationship you found, whether acquaintance, friendship or more will never be boring as you will always be sparking interest with that opposition.

I think one of the issues with having Venus in Scorpio or perhaps any personal planet in Scorpio is not that you are prone to being placed in issues of control or power struggles. I believe the reality is that a Scorpio's sense of these everyday control issues and power struggles are heightened and taken in a far more negative manner. Everyone goes through these things throughout their lives. Scorpio's just take far more notice of them, for better or worse. This may be in part due to the emotional response of Scorpio's towards these issues which are generally emotional in their own right.

In my own experiences with Scorpio Venus conjunct Pluto, I never paid that much attention in my earlier years but people were drawn to me and attracted to me on some level. When I look back now, people always use to come to me and talk to me about problems and troubles in their lives. People have always been, what I consided overly, kind to me. During my time in high school I never knew that the majority of girls kept tabs on me. I only had one relationship in high school that didn't last too long, but I was told at the end of my high school time that all the girls were keenly interested when it began, and interested when it finished. Please don't misinterpret, they weren't throwing themselves at my feet, or necessarily even talking to me. They just took a keen interest in what I was up to.

I have noticed this trend continue with people feeling comfortable around me or interested in me. In my 2nd year at University 3 of the girls who played in the Badminton team were in their final year and at the end of the year they all came over said it was their last year and then kinda just waited. Considering I didn't really spend that much time with them over the 2 years I was quite surprised they would come over to me and eventually invite me to go out and celebrate their goodbye.

I don't know what it is but Venus Pluto aspects are always bringing people together. It seems as if there is just something irresistible about the Venus person. I would describe it as a predator stalking prey. I have met people who have had Venus in Taurus or other Venus aspects to my Pluto and there is just something there, like a thread tying two points together.

Anyway, sum of it all is; don't be discouraged or think negatively on your Venus Pluto opposition. I'm sure it will bring more positives into your life. Think positively and approach life with a positive outlook

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