posted July 08, 2012 07:07 AM            

if this thread takes off, i'll reveal the answers and explain the outcomes. brutal honesty. this should be interesting.

i am the inner wheel, of course.

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posted July 08, 2012 08:45 AM            

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posted July 08, 2012 09:35 AM            

So chart 1, you have a lot of vertex going on and nodes which definitely points to a fated relationship:
Your venus conjunct his DC/Vx/Jupiter/Eros
Her sun/Psyche conjunct your Vertex
Her moon squares your Nodes and her mars conjunct your SN
Your pluto conjunct her Venus exact
You also have some saturn, not so easy aspects, with his saturn square your sun/moon/mars conjunction and your saturn trines her Venus and square her mercury.
Her sun is in your 5th house
Your venus is in her 7th house (conjucnt DC) and your sun/moon/mars fall in her 8th house (wow!, how did she feel about you?)

To me, it looks very fated and the house overlay in the 8th house along with venus pluto exact conjunction might have added lots of depth to your feelings. But the trick with vertex connection is that they might be short lived or sort of on and off.

chart 2:
The nodes conjunction laying on her IC/MC axis must have been very powerful
Your saturn square her Venus (was there some obstacles getting together?)
Your venus squares her moon
Your eros trines her psyche
House overlay:
Her sun/mars/mercury in your 7th house and her moon in your 8th house (you may have felt very strongly about her and she sort of embodied your ideal partner ?)
Your venus in her 12th house.
The venus saturn square and the fact that your planets don't fall in her relationship house (5th, 7th, and 8th) don't make me think it lasted very long, I think it was shorter than chart 1 . But there definitely was a lot of karma with the nodes, saturn and 12th house overlay

chart 3:
Her sun/pluto conjuncts your Sun/moon/Mars
your MC conjuncts his NN and her saturn conjuncts your NN which can be very binding
Her moon and Venus in your 8th house.

The Sun/moon conjunction (which is amplified by mars and pluto) and the Nodes connection with saturn tend to make me think that this is the one that lasted the longest.

But I kind of torn apart with chart 1. Chart 1 is the most karmic to me and even if there isn't the sun/moon conjunction like chart 3, when it comes down to resolving karma it can last a long time...

posted July 08, 2012 11:27 AM            

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posted July 08, 2012 11:32 AM            

But I would have said that chart 1 was the shortest (though attraction was definitely there), and chart 2 was the longest.

I found it interesting that in chart 1 their DESC-ruler were conjunct your ASC- ruler, but at the same time being squared by your Saturn.

In the second synastry I wanted to point out
that your 5th house ruler was conjunct their DESC-ruler, Mars (5th house ruler ocnjunct DESC-ruler is a pretty sweet thing, a little bit like Sun-VEnus conjunction)

your Saturn is square their ASC-ruler, which is of course not a pure joy, but I find SAturn squaring the DESCruler much more difficult, as the restrictive tendendy would directly affect the relationship.

posted July 08, 2012 12:09 PM            

The third synastry did not seem to have much in terms of houseruler-aspects.

Scorpio`s 5th house ruler seems to have been unaspected.
7th house ruler unaspected, except for a very wide conjunction to the other partie`s Pluto, but Pluto rules their 6th house, so it is not so strong in terms of relationship.
8th house rulers are trine each other, but I am not sure how strong that is, not strong enough to balance out the fact that neither 5th nor 7th house ruler are aspected.

posted July 08, 2012 02:21 PM            

chart #2--
we are actually still together after 3 years. it's actually ironic that we've made it this far. i didn't like her at all when i first met her through a mutual friend. i thought that she was really bitchy and moody. but years later, i saw her in a different light. she's saved me in more ways than one. there were a lot of real hardships that we've encountered together, but thankfully we've gotten over those. a lot of things were out of our control and a lot of outside forces threatened our union. by being with her, i truly feel like she's made me a better person. she is my friend first and my lover second. that's what i really need in my life.

posted July 08, 2012 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Planetary aspects are of course important, but I also (and firstmost) check the aspects to the rulers of 7th, 5th an 8th house.
And for longevity to Saturn and MC-ruler.

The third synastry did not seem to have much in terms of houseruler-aspects.

Scorpio`s 5th house ruler seems to have been unaspected.
7th house ruler unaspected, except for a very wide conjunction to the other partie`s Pluto, but Pluto rules their 6th house, so it is not so strong in terms of relationship.
8th house rulers are trine each other, but I am not sure how strong that is, not strong enough to balance out the fact that neither 5th nor 7th house ruler are aspected.

Of course the Sun-Moon-Mars-Pluto on their Sun-Pluto are still a very strong constellations, intense, but taking place in the 6th houses, and not ruling the primary relationship houses.

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I never look to house rulers in synastry but it does make a lot of sense now.
Do you check for connections between these house rulers or to luminaries (if those luminaries are not already a 5th,7th or 8th house ruler) ?

posted July 08, 2012 03:16 PM            

chart#1--
yes, it definitely felt fated and short-lived. if i were to describe the feeling, it would be akin to a moth mesmerized by a flame. you know it's dangerous but you get close anyways. and you get burned. you can either burn to ashes or be purified.

to answer your question, i am not sure how she felt about me exactly. i would figure that she kept it hidden as long as possible, but looking at her actions.. i would say that she was attracted to me and wasn't afraid to show it. for example, she would wait for me after work every time and i could feel her staring at me whenever i worked. (at the time, i interpreted for a student in her classes) invite me to her house so she could make dinner for me, etc. she would just rather not say it. she opened up to me rather quickly, shared her painful experiences. in a way, she surrendered herself to me, physically and emotionally. and i suppose this is a big deal to an aries moon but i took more than i could give her. it was very one-sided, unfortunately. for some reason, i could not imagine her in my life as my wife or anything so i didn't take things further or seriously. preferred to live in the moment with her.

don't get me wrong though, the intensity was there. it just did not manifest as romantic love on my part. it is really difficult and unnatural to explain in words. i feel like i fail to capture the essence of it.

chart #2--
yes, there were several obstacles. her father refused to recognize us. he didn't want his youngest daughter to be dating yet. also, an ex of mine tried to tear us apart. as i stated earlier, she would harass me at work and at class. she tried to sabotage my grades by emailing my professors false accusations. threatened my girlfriend. oh now, i remember how it all stopped.. i ended up in the hospital.

i did feel very strongly about her. i didn't think that i had an ideal woman until i met her and i just knew that it was her that i wanted to be with. no doubt in my mind.

posted July 08, 2012 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Wow, the story behind chart 3 is rather scary! I wouldn't have expected this. I wonder if it might be your saturn square her mars ?

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posted July 08, 2012 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
The composite is what matters..imo

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posted July 08, 2012 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am too late to the party.

But I would have said that chart 1 was the shortest (though attraction was definitely there), and chart 2 was the longest.

I found it interesting that in chart 1 their DESC-ruler were conjunct your ASC- ruler, but at the same time being squared by your Saturn.

In the second synastry I wanted to point out
that your 5th house ruler was conjunct their DESC-ruler, Mars (5th house ruler ocnjunct DESC-ruler is a pretty sweet thing, a little bit like Sun-VEnus conjunction)

your Saturn is square their ASC-ruler, which is of course not a pure joy, but I find SAturn squaring the DESCruler much more difficult, as the restrictive tendendy would directly affect the relationship.

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better late than never!

i'm having a hard time following what you're saying about chart #1. her virgo dsc (mercury) is conjunct my taurus asc (venus)? my venus is in virgo and her mercury is in scorpio.

posted July 08, 2012 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by curiouswoman:

So chart 2 was the one with venus square saturn aspect. are you older than her?

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