posted July 08, 2012 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
Just out of curiousity! but you as saturn, I want to know, were you in a relationship when you met her?

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oh okay

posted July 08, 2012 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by scorpy_oh:
i have to read a description on that. will do so in a bit. do you think it'd have something more to do with her saturn manifesting in her own 8th house? if i looked at synastry chart like that, i wouldn't have expected it as well.

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yes, the sun/moon conjunction along with mars/pluto could make anyone think of it as a heavenly intense and passionate relationship.
Well there seems to have been intensity but not really the right kind of intensity.
I found this old thread about mars square saturn in synastry (which is described as a "red alert" aspect by some sites) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/016365.html
This aspect alone might not be the key in explaining why things turned out like this with her but I find it interesting that it is said "the Saturn person could even fall very ill due to the stress of this aspect" and you actually mentioned that you ended up in the hospital.

posted July 08, 2012 04:32 PM            

I meant that your ASC-ruler Venus was conjunct her DESC. This usually is a sign of a very strong attraction of the DESC-owner to the one with the ASC or ASC-ruler. Almost like you embody exactly what she needs.
But it doesn`s ay anything about what the ASc-owner (you) is attracted to.

Though I think with your DESC-ruler conjunct her Venus the attraction was there.

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Originally posted by scorpy_oh:
better late than never!

i'm having a hard time following what you're saying about chart #1. her virgo dsc (mercury) is conjunct my taurus asc (venus)? my venus is in virgo and her mercury is in scorpio.

and chart #2, i didn't know that. thanks for pointing that out. i've been having a difficult time understanding why it was this chart that out lasted the others without any intense aspects.

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posted July 08, 2012 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by scorpy_oh:
i think so as well! but one can't get to a composite if a relationship isn't established first via synastry

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Actually that is not true. I know many people say that, but according to my experience and observation, the composite is just as much in play as the synastry from the beginning.
Though of course for a composite to manifest both people have to be aware of each other.

posted July 08, 2012 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I never look to house rulers in synastry but it does make a lot of sense now.
Do you check for connections between these house rulers or to luminaries (if those luminaries are not already a 5th,7th or 8th house ruler) ?

I get very lost with them, especially because there are the old/new house rulers for scorpio, pisces and aquarius and I never know which to consider even for a natal chart.

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I check for the house rulers of 5th, 7th and 8th

to luminaries, ASC, ruler of ASC, Venus and Mars predominantly,
but also take note if they aspect Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, NN.
This would be indicative of an attraction to the other (which could be onesided, if the other`s 5th, 7th and 8th housruler do not connect in the same way).

The rulers between 5th, 7th and 8th house themselves are interesting in terms of how the relating style harmonize. Even if people are not really each other`s type, they can feel very drawn to each other through their relating styles (which would be indicated through these mentioned houses).

5th house ruler - 7th house ruler: sweet, affectionate, romantic, loving
5th house ruler - 8th house ruler: intensely sexual and passionate
7th house ruler and 8th house ruler:
very intense and binding in sense of a relationship

posted July 08, 2012 05:11 PM            

From Magi-perspective I would have chosen 1 for shortest - Not One Chiron-linkage and possibly also the Heartbreak-clash (unfortunately I can't see the orbs).
I had my doubts about 2 and 3 for the one that lasted.

posted July 08, 2012 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by scorpy_oh:
i think so as well! but one can't get to a composite if a relationship isn't established first via synastry

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nope. thats a myth imo

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posted July 08, 2012 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Actually that is not true. I know many people say that, but according to my experience and observation, the composite is just as much in play as the synastry from the beginning.
Though of course for a composite to manifest both people have to be aware of each other.

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yes ceri!
right from the beginning

I believe what astrologers mean when they say that the composite manifests long-term is that it SHOWS what happens in the long-term. haha. Pretty much shows how long the relationship will last.

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posted July 08, 2012 05:25 PM            

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posted July 08, 2012 05:44 PM            

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give me a few moments to respond in detail. chart #1 was the shortest and chart #2 is the longest.[/B]

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OMG!! I was right. I won, I won.

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But I would have said that chart 1 was the shortest (though attraction was definitely there), and chart 2 was the longest.

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posted July 08, 2012 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by scorpy_oh:

chart #3--
this was the most difficult. yes, very binding. it is undesired in my case. this woman had many issues that need to be resolved with the help of a professional. i cannot begin to describe how much of it weighed me down. guilt made me stay.[/B]

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not an excuse to be emotionally and physically abusive toward her though, in other words. an abuser.
no sympathies from me. by your first description of chart 3, you made it look like she was this looney stalker, and poor you had to plead to her to leave you alone, like the innocent guy, who just ended up in an unfortunate circumstance.
just like you did to the first girl, exploit their vulnerabilities and take advantage of their short-comings. and in both circumstances, you reaped what you sowed.

posted July 08, 2012 06:06 PM            

With the Capricorn moons, I knew it had to more than a fling. I went against the Scorpio because I thought the Sun/Mars/Pluto aspects were too intense to sustain. I'm not surprised things ended the way they did.

I chose the Sagittarius because her Venus was conjunct your Sun/Moon/Mars. For sure, I thought that was someone you'd love spending alone time with.

posted July 09, 2012 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by chocogold:
not an excuse to be emotionally and physically abusive toward her though, in other words. an abuser.
no sympathies from me. by your first description of chart 3, you made it look like she was this looney stalker, and poor you had to plead to her to leave you alone, like the innocent guy, who just ended up in an unfortunate circumstance.
just like you did to the first girl, exploit their vulnerabilities and take advantage of their short-comings. and in both circumstances, you reaped what you sowed.

i smell a rat.
and im sure you had far more to do with things than you think.

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agreed, that i reaped what i sowed in more ways than one. i did not ask for or expected sympathy. i merely explained the outcomes of each relationship and responded according to how i felt.

your post made me upset. what was the point? to expose me? i think that was already done in my admission of being emotionally and physically abusive. you speak as if you know me. you speak as you are above making such mistakes. even if you are, good for you and i commend you for being a strong individual. but please think twice before saying such things, compassion is lacking nowadays.

posted July 09, 2012 12:28 PM            

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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
Oh I see. but what made you break up the relationship you were in to be with her? did you feel like you had to or something?

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posted July 09, 2012 12:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
For me it was simple.

With the Capricorn moons, I knew it had to more than a fling. I went against the Scorpio because I thought the Sun/Mars/Pluto aspects were too intense to sustain. I'm not surprised things ended the way they did.

I chose the Sagittarius because her Venus was conjunct your Sun/Moon/Mars. For sure, I thought that was someone you'd love spending alone time with.

I also factored in the Numerology. The 4 lifepath has staying power.

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posted July 09, 2012 12:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
I figured Chart Two as well for longest, but mainly because my first glance focused on her stellium falling into your 7th and your stellium falling into her 2nd. I think that in the first chart, all of the 8th house reception was indicative of sex/an intense short term fling and in the 3rd chart, there was reception in to the 6th houses and in my opinion, 6th houses are not where you want to see a lot of planets landing in synastry - especially Suns.

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posted July 09, 2012 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
Chart 2>3>1

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