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Jessica2407
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posted June 26, 2013 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron square sun and/or moon, does it indicate life in constant pain?

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 26, 2013 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope not, Jess. I have it opposite my ascendant and it most closely opposes Mercury. It can be rough.

Do you have it square your sun? Someone you know?

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Kerosene
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posted June 26, 2013 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to say no

"Natives with Chiron square the Sun show the typical pattern of working with squares: they have a difficult struggle with spirituality before the Saturn return, they work on the real meaning of life intensely during their thirties, and they begin to master the dilemma after Uranus opposite Uranus. These natives have a very difficult time at the Uranus opposition when the Uranian electrical infusion exacerbates the Chiron square Sun and tends to cause neurological stress. This is a tough position; counseling will help greatly, and these natives need affirmation about the progress of their heavy struggle with Saturn. Shoulder massage is a necessity for them. They need to learn to control Saturn and not have Saturn control them. They are hard on themselves, but let go of control. Once they discover their destiny/Sun, they will find themselves in control with working with Uranian imbalance."

Do you stress out a lot?

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Kerosene
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posted June 26, 2013 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow this really sounds like me...

Chiron sextile the Sun: There is a noticeable steadiness and constant drive in these natives, but they are also rarely satisfied with their accomplishments. Chiron sextile the Sun indicates that the Higher Self will be embodied within this individual during this incarnation

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posted June 26, 2013 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know. It sures feels like it's going to be. I have Sun square Chiron exact, Moon sextile Chiron. I don't know JUST HOW MUCH the sextile helps or does it help at all? Also have saturn square sun. So my sun-saturn conjunction squares chiron. Uranus oppose Chiron 1 degree and (yup it's not over yet lol) Chiron squares my ASC.

Feels like I have a love affair with the planet of pain, it being in my 4th house, conjuncts my SN.

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posted June 26, 2013 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I empathize. It opposes mine. Seems like the world is against me at times, lol. Hope things improve soon!

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Jessica2407
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posted June 26, 2013 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I'm going to say no

"Natives with Chiron square the Sun show the typical pattern of working with squares: they have a difficult struggle with spirituality before the Saturn return, they work on the real meaning of life intensely during their thirties, and they begin to master the dilemma after Uranus opposite Uranus. These natives have a very difficult time at the Uranus opposition when the Uranian electrical infusion exacerbates the Chiron square Sun and tends to cause neurological stress. This is a tough position; counseling will help greatly, and these natives need affirmation about the progress of their heavy struggle with Saturn. Shoulder massage is a necessity for them. They need to learn to control Saturn and not have Saturn control them. They are hard on themselves, but let go of control. Once they discover their destiny/Sun, they will find themselves in control with working with Uranian imbalance."

Do you stress out a lot?


Yeah I came across this read on the net. I can relate A LOT. I used to stress out really a lot, so hard on myself for simple things like getting only pass marks on an assignment. I've changed a lot since, now am a little more laid back, more "okay what's the big deal?'' kinda attitude. I know I can't change some things, so just wanting to change them in the first place is pointless.

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posted June 26, 2013 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I empathize. It opposes mine. Seems like the world is against me at times, lol. Hope things improve soon!


No I don't feel like the world is against me. I feel like I suffer from pains that I don't even understand. A simple thing can cause me a great deal of pain.

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posted June 26, 2013 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:

No I don't feel like the world is against me. I feel like I suffer from pains that I don't even understand. A simple thing can cause me a great deal of pain.


Sounds like you need a hug and some good vibes

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Jessica2407
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posted June 26, 2013 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Wow this really sounds like me...

Chiron sextile the Sun: There is a noticeable steadiness and constant drive in these natives, but they are also rarely satisfied with their accomplishments. Chiron sextile the Sun indicates that the Higher Self will be embodied within this individual during this incarnation


hmm okay..

what do you think a square would indicate?

A square aspect almost pushes you infront of the problem, like it can't go unattended.Do you think UNTIL I don't learn what I need to learn I would keep feeling things at a higher level of pain?


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posted June 26, 2013 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How are you feeling right now?
Is something happening right now?

I wouldn't over think things, especially negative aspects.

Sometimes people are strong enough to over come their trials and negative aspects.

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posted June 26, 2013 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
How are you feeling right now?
Is something happening right now?

I wouldn't over think things, especially negative aspects.

Sometimes people are strong enough to over come their trials and negative aspects.



Yeah.

LOL. I am a master at overthinking things lol. Again being hard on myself I guess.But that's the only way I know how to make things better for me. Don't know if I make sense.

It's just the same issues keep repeating themselves. I guess it takes time to flush the pain out,but I want to think through the pain and see what is that I'm missing. The thing I've noticed is even though the pain can be really bad, there is a part of the brain that wants to get BACK UP.

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posted June 26, 2013 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jessica2407:
[b]
No I don't feel like the world is against me. I feel like I suffer from pains that I don't even understand. A simple thing can cause me a great deal of pain.


Sounds like you need a hug and some good vibes [/B][/QUOTE]

Lots of good vibes

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posted June 26, 2013 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:

Yeah.

LOL. I am a master at overthinking things lol. Again being hard on myself I guess.But that's the only way I know how to make things better for me. Don't know if I make sense.

It's just the same issues keep repeating themselves. I guess it takes time to flush the pain out,but I want to think through the pain and see what is that I'm missing. The thing I've noticed is even though the pain can be really bad, there is a part of the brain that wants to get BACK UP.


Uggh!!!
You have to stop that, sometimes we have to go into our fantasy world when we're sitting alone worrying.

I just try and keep myself busy as much as possible. No time to feel sorry for yourself!
When I'm not working I watch some addicting tv shows, play video games, get up and dance and pretend I'm in a music video, work on my hobbies and improve my skills.

This prevents me from stressing out and getting depressed.

Remember you will feel healthier and happier when you don't stress out.
You just have to keep yourself in a good mood.

Also look at all your positive placements, and all the good things you've accomplished!

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Jessica2407
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posted June 26, 2013 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Hehe

hugssss kero

you made me smile


Actually I got out of the mood,lol otherwise I wouldn't be ready to even discuss about it.

I got hooked onto a new show, Hemlock Grove.

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aquaguy91
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posted June 26, 2013 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not necessarily.. I think Chiron square sun would make it hard to have an ego though.

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Kerosene
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posted June 26, 2013 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GOOD.
I just wikied that.
LOL more werewolf/vampire shows

but I wanna check it now.
Ugggh I need to get my netlflix back!!!

I was following downton abbey and the tutors.

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Jessica2407
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posted June 26, 2013 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Not necessarily.. I think Chiron square sun would make it hard to have an ego though.

Do you mind telling me more?

Because I can relate to what you said! I hav a leo sun, but I don't see The Ego as would a normal leo. I love being around humble people, I love the auras they give off, they are the people I most admire.Like really admire!

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posted June 26, 2013 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
GOOD.
I just wikied that.
LOL more werewolf/vampire shows

but I wanna check it now.
Ugggh I need to get my netlflix back!!!

I was following downton abbey and the tutors.


It's a KEWLLLLL show!! You got to check it out!

Also got hooked on The House of Cards.

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Kerosene
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posted June 26, 2013 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you seen girls?
I live for that show..
I'm not guilty about it either.
I love sex & the city.

My mother has terrible taste in shows..
Real housewives/ every bravo show & every talent show.
At least she does not what serial dramas anymore...

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posted June 26, 2013 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Do you mind telling me more?

Because I can relate to what you said! I hav a leo sun, but I don't see The Ego as would a normal leo. I love being around humble people, I love the auras they give off, they are the people I most admire.Like really admire!



Well I have Sun conjunct Saturn in the 12th house and I think it would be similar to sun square Chiron in the sense that it makes it impossible to be confident or have an ego.In my life Everytime I'm confident or feel good about something things go wrong . I think the universe wants my ego to completely die in this lifetime. Since you have sun square Chiron maybe you are good at building others up but not yourself,would you say that's true?

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posted June 26, 2013 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:

No I don't feel like the world is against me. I feel like I suffer from pains that I don't even understand. A simple thing can cause me a great deal of pain.

this aspect is interesting, i never thought of it this way, but i relate very much with what you(and aquaguy91) said--chiron squares/oppositions in my chart.

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Jessica2407
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posted June 26, 2013 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jessica2407:
[b] Do you mind telling me more?

Because I can relate to what you said! I hav a leo sun, but I don't see The Ego as would a normal leo. I love being around humble people, I love the auras they give off, they are the people I most admire.Like really admire!


Well I have Sun conjunct Saturn in the 12th house and I think it would be similar to sun square Chiron in the sense that it makes it impossible to be confident or have an ego.In my life Everytime I'm confident or feel good about something things go wrong . I think the universe wants my ego to completely die in this lifetime. Since you have sun square Chiron maybe you are good at building others up but not yourself,would you say that's true?[/B][/QUOTE]

Awww,am sorry you feel that way.

I have sun conjunct saturn in leo. I have major leo stellium. I would say confidence wise, I built my own confidence through the years and despite the difficulties in my life. Kero is right, I need to focus on my achievements more. I think to be a better person one should know when The Ego is interfering with what's best for you when it comes to your relationships whether at home with your family members, people you relate to at work, people you love but don't want to approach, people you need to ask forgiveness to for things that you've done and you know you are in the wrong. I appreciate this part in others a great deal, the humility behind actions,behind words.I was born in a rich family I can say, money was never a problem, but the difficulties I went through made me aware how good it finally feels to be humble despite the posh cars, the big houses and also really honor money even a mere 5 cents.

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Jessica2407
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posted June 26, 2013 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Have you seen girls?
I live for that show..
I'm not guilty about it either.
I love sex & the city.

My mother has terrible taste in shows..
Real housewives/ every bravo show & every talent show.
At least she does not what serial dramas anymore...


Nope.

I have never watched real housewives ugghhhh

I don't like them!!

Another one I am loving, Motive, The Newsroom,Revenge and of course I started watching Portlandia

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posted June 26, 2013 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember The Mentalist? Heh.

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