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mztiny
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posted July 12, 2014 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What aspect in a person's chart will signify this individual will have very little friends?

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DeepFreeze
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posted July 12, 2014 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in 11th

I'm sure there are others but I'm not sure off hand

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posted July 12, 2014 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
funny, I have jupiter in the 11th and I still don't have very many friends. Maybe because I'm not really interested in any superficial topics or people in my life but still, lol.

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posted July 12, 2014 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
funny, I have jupiter in the 11th and I still don't have very many friends. Maybe because I'm not really interested in any superficial topics or people in my life but still, lol.

You have Scorpio moon though right? Could be that. Scorpio doesn't like superficial. Unless I'm wrong about your placement.

What is your 11th?

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IV XXIV
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posted July 12, 2014 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV XXIV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have to agree with Saturn in the 11th. I have it in Aquarius (that's also my 11th house's ruler) and have very few friends. When I was younger, I was much more popular, but I was also around more people and had more time to spend with them.

I have about a handful of good/best friends that I know I can depend on come hell or high water, and honestly, I'd much rather have these few friends than hundreds of acquaintances that are only around when it's convenient for themselves.

Maybe it takes longer to manifest itself?

As for Jupiter in the 11th.. I'm not stating this as a fact but my own personal belief is that wherever Jupiter is (granted it's nicely aspected), will usually bring good fortune to the individual. I've seen many instances where Jupiter is viewed as an indication of abundance, but I never really viewed it that way (there are a few exceptions). I just look at it like you would have good luck within friendships, whether many or few.

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posted July 12, 2014 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
funny, I have jupiter in the 11th and I still don't have very many friends. Maybe because I'm not really interested in any superficial topics or people in my life but still, lol.

Jupiter in 11th is a blessing. Your friends are probably very open minded, friendly, warm and just a great joy to be around. And they won't be superficial friends, they'll be sincere, philosophical and people whom you can trust..

Placements like Venus in 11th are good but these tend to be friends you just have a good time with I guess, comforting yourself with and doing things for recreation. Jupiter in 11th seems the placement that would give you 'true friends'

I've never met anyone with Saturn in 11th so I can imagine this being the sort of thing that improves with age. Possibly older or more mature friends? Friends with hardcore experience..

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posted July 12, 2014 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagical     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmmmmmm. One could also throw Saturn in the 12. Afflicted MC.

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amelia28
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posted July 12, 2014 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in the 11th is about quality over quantity; they dont need NOR WANT a lot of friends just one or two who they feel they can be themselves with.

Pluto in the 11th I think is another one.

Its another quality over quantity aspect.

Having only chiron in the 11th or an empty 11th house.

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posted July 12, 2014 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deptic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Saturn in 11th

I'm sure there are others but I'm not sure off hand


That's me

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jollyaries
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posted July 12, 2014 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jollyaries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mztiny, what is your 11th house ruler doing? If it’s afflicted this can cause somebody to have few friends or difficulties in friendships in general too.

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posted July 13, 2014 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
or an empty 11th house.

Why empty 11th house?

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charlie
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posted July 13, 2014 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All in all I have 8 "bodies" in 11 incl Saturn.
I have friends allover but none I see frequently, which is by choice since I prefer my own company.

My progressed Saturn in 12H fits much better because I have many "odd" people around me and I aim to save the entire human population....and animals.
I also like to be the one "behind the scenes" because it gives me great sense of achievement knowing I am the mastermind without having to deal with public scrutiny.

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posted July 13, 2014 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
funny, I have jupiter in the 11th and I still don't have very many friends. Maybe because I'm not really interested in any superficial topics or people in my life but still, lol.

*high five*

I never cared about having many friends and currently I'm a hermit.

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posted July 13, 2014 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seekinglight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
funny, I have jupiter in the 11th and I still don't have very many friends. Maybe because I'm not really interested in any superficial topics or people in my life but still, lol.

I have Jupiter in 11th too, but in retrograde, perhaps that's why I'm still lagging in the friendship department. Jupiter is in Pisces though.

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posted July 13, 2014 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in 11th house and my moon in aries (Chart ruler) is quite unaspected. I have very very few friends. The rest are acquaintances

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mztiny
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posted July 13, 2014 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jollyaries:
Mztiny, what is your 11th house ruler doing? If it’s afflicted this can cause somebody to have few friends or difficulties in friendships in general too.

My Sun,Mercury,Venus and Mars are in the 11th house.

Venus opposite Jupiter 4 degrees and square Pluto 1 degree.

Mercury square Pluto 4 degrees

Mars square Uranus 3.5 degrees

I'm guessing these are my problems.

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mztiny
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posted July 13, 2014 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know what my 11th house ruler is...I have gemini/cancer at 17 degrees in the middle of the house. Which one would the house ruler be?

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posted July 13, 2014 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in 11th, too, and I'd say I'm definitely "quality over quantity" when it comes to friendship.

Think Sam and Bilbo from Lord of the Rings.

I don't have a vast amount of friends, but the ones I do have would march through Hell and back with me, and me with them.

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posted July 13, 2014 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Jupiter and Moon conjunct in my 11th house in Leo.

I used to have just one friend in high school, but when i went to university and finally opened myself to people, i've widened my social circle A LOT. And not only i have many friends now, but among them are also really influential people.. fortunate friendships. And yes, i've gained a lot through my friendships although it was never the plan.

As for friends i value the most - they indeed must be the ones with whom i can share my philosophy, my thoughts and discuss things i care about. I do have such friends, two or three. We don't meet that often, but when we do, we feel very close and talk about those things.

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posted July 13, 2014 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And apart from everything i wrote above, i'm still a loner type of person - i need my time alone to recharge my energy.

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posted July 13, 2014 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in the 12th. Please, tell me about your experiences with Saturn in the 11th. I know one personal experience with it in someone close to me but have not seen it too much in charts. Thanks

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posted July 13, 2014 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Saturn is like 1 degree from 11th. I used to think it was 11th. (it's in 10)

Does it still apply a little since its so close?

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posted July 13, 2014 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, here are some celebrities with Saturn in their 11th house.

Seeing these clearly shows that having Saturn in 11th doesn't mean the person will have no friends or be anti-social or socially shunned. I think it just means they will take friendships seriously, prefer more mature friends, have a deep respect for friendship in general, or will be deeply respected by their friends.

It can also indicate that they take their responsibility to society seriously, or take their role in society seriously.

Celebs with Saturn in 11th:

George Clooney
Beyoncé
Cameron Diaz
Natalie Portman
Zac Efron
Halle Barry
Victoria Beckham
Jessica Biel
Ryan Reynolds
Mark Wahlberg
Adele
Rachel McAdams
Chris Martin
Sarah Jessica Parker
Dakota Fanning
Morgan Freeman
Gordan Ramsey
Stevie Wonder

... I really can't list them all because the list was over 1600 people long. You can go to Astrotheme and search for celebrities with Saturn in House 11 if you want to see them all. There are lots more.


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BellaFenice
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posted July 13, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto as ruler in 11th, and honestly I have very little what I would call life long or very close friends. Granted I have plenty of friends, but not a ton that I would consider very close.

I am very selective about who I let get very close to me.

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Wild Horses
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posted July 13, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
My Saturn is like 1 degree from 11th. I used to think it was 11th. (it's in 10)

Does it still apply a little since its so close?


Nah, I don't think so. My Mars is in my 12th, but less than 1° from my AC. However, it still acts like a 12th house Mars, not a 1st house one.

You should be happy, though. I think Saturn in 10th is a wonderful placement. It's strong there. It makes you easily respected and a natural born leader, especially as you get older.

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