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sambam
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posted November 27, 2013 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a 26 yr old cancer with venus in cancer and mars in leo. He's a 31 yr old Virgo with venus in leo and mars in scorpio .My mars in leo conjuncts his venus in leo. His scorpio mars conjunct my pluto. My venus in cancer trine his mars in scorpio. His mars in scorpio conjunct my pluto. my sun conjunct his true node. His venus lands in my 6th house,his mars in my 8th. His sagittarius moon trines my aries ASC...I feel an inexplicable pull when i'm around him but I get so nervous i can hardly speak (unless its via text, then i'm a little better). Cant really speak for how he feels as i don't know but he seems to tune into how i'm feeling pretty well. How powerful are these aspects? And what exactly do they mean??


I have had a crush on a virgo co-worker for almost 4 months now. He's recently divorced and already dating his art partner from school which i didnt find out about till a week ago when i overheard him say something about his "lady friend" but when he speaks to me he only refers to her as his art partner..? We hardly speak except for polite exchanges at work or when i initiate text conversations about work that just happen to spiral into actual conversations where he ends up asking me one question after another about absolute randomness until the conversation dies. It doesn't necessarily feel like he's flirting ,just interested i guess...?Not sure if he's interested or not but i always catch him staring at me and when I turn to look he turns his head quickly as if he's embarrassed. He's pretty reserved but with me he almost seems a bit shy. Anyways,Its hard to explain but there is always this weird tension between us. When he speaks to me sometimes his eyes get that soft look or i'll catch him scanning my face or looking at my lips. When i'm sitting at the front desk and he's talking to me about something, he always kneels down and turns to face me at eye level. He's made excuses to touch my shoulder or upper back during conversation, not in a sleazy way but just casual in mid or the end of a conversation. He'll usually say goodbye before leaving although that stopped recently, he was distant and almost cold... I thought he was upset with me last week so i texted him asking if all was well, he ignored me so feeling pretty embarrassed and hurt by it I opted to pretty much avoid him and eye contact as much as i could. That day, about 3 hours into the shift he came out of his way to speak to me and asked how my week was going. I responded but was a bit stand offish myself as i didnt know how to feel and being cancer myself, my feelings were a little hurt by his cold demeanor. Every time I looked up that day, i'd catch him looking my way.I like him... a LOT but never know what he's thinking or if he even likes me. Staring isnt exactly concrete evidence and being that he's seeing someone at the moment it i'm not sure he can even come out and say it or that i'd even want him to...but I cant stop thinking about him. I had to delete his number to stop myself from texting him something i may regret. I wonder if he ever feels like this or if those aspects i indicated are only affecting me? :-(

When I moved in to my apartment we spent an 3 hours texting back and forth. I sent him video of my new place,he sent me pics of his artwork. I like him,want him but wont cross the line as he is currently seeing someone. I know this was a lot of random info but if anyone has insight i'd appreciate it

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posted November 27, 2013 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say with that Venus and Mars, there's a chance it will happen. Somehow. Someway.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm...what about the my pluto conj his mars in scorpio? Does that tend to affect anything or is it mainly mars and venus?
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I'd say with that Venus and Mars, there's a chance it will happen. Somehow. Someway.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hmm...what about the my pluto conj his mars in scorpio? Does that tend to affect anything or is it mainly mars and venus?

Both. Venus and Mars is the quintessential classic symbol of a man and a woman who are into each other. It's the number one passion aspect between two people but it could fizzle out. Mars and Pluto could make it more intense. It's great that you are the one with Venus since you are the woman.

What is Saturn doing? Any aspects with Saturn synastry-wise?

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posted November 27, 2013 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My saturn is in sagittarius and conjuncts his moon. His saturn in libra conjuncts my descendant...whats that mean?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sambam:
[b]hmm...what about the my pluto conj his mars in scorpio? Does that tend to affect anything or is it mainly mars and venus?


Both. Venus and Mars is the quintessential classic symbol of a man and a woman who are into each other. It's the number one passion aspect between two people but it could fizzle out. Mars and Pluto could make it more intense. It's great that you are the one with Venus since you are the woman.

What is Saturn doing? Any aspects with Saturn synastry-wise? [/B][/QUOTE]

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posted November 27, 2013 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could be good Saturn conjuncts the moon in terms of knowing this person a while but there could be emotional lessons involved.

What about sun or Venus? Is Saturn in one chart in contact with either of those?

I have a long term friendships with Saturn contacts to the sun and Venus. I found it surprising when I looked at the chart because Saturn is not the first thing that comes to mind. With one friend I have known for quite a while and get along with better than the others, there are two contacts between my sun, his Saturn (a conjunction) and my Venus is opposite his Saturn. We also have a Venus/Jupiter conjunction with an orb of a few degrees.

With another friend I have her sun conjunct my Saturn.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also his pluto,saturn and mercury are all in libra and conjunct my descendant. I read that the descendant has to do with having known someone in a past life or something. How important is the descendant in all of this?

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posted November 27, 2013 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His venus is in leo trines my saturn in sag. My venus and sun in cancer trine his jupiter in scorpio.Its like i feel close to him but we hardly speak.We speak of course but its nothing out of the ordinary. He normally asks me about my week, I ask him about his and we speak about his art sometimes. What i do notice though is that he never seems to forget a word i tell him. He sometimes brings things up that ive said and i'm almost amazed he remembered. We stare at each other mmost of the time and then its interrupted by awkaward run ins and stares. He waited for me to catch the subway one night and the whole ride literally consisted of looking at each other,smiles, and awkward laughter...i felt like an idiot
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It could be good Saturn conjuncts the moon in terms of knowing this person a while but there could be emotional lessons involved.

What about sun or Venus? Is Saturn in one chart in contact with either of those?

I have a long term friendships with Saturn contacts to the sun and Venus. I found it surprising when I looked at the chart because Saturn is not the first thing that comes to mind. With one friend I have known for quite a while and get along with better than the others, there are two contacts between my sun, his Saturn (a conjunction) and my Venus is opposite his Saturn. We also have a Venus/Jupiter conjunction with an orb of a few degrees.

With another friend I have her sun conjunct my Saturn.


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posted November 27, 2013 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Also his pluto,saturn and mercury are all in libra and conjunct my descendant. I read that the descendant has to do with having known someone in a past life or something. How important is the descendant in all of this?

Well, the descendant is on the Cardinal cross so it's a sensitive point in your chart so anything around there will be stronger than if it were someplace weaker. Saturn is accidentally dignified around the descendant. It could mean the beginning of a long term relationship that feels a bit like destiny since Pluto's there. Mercury is the planet of communication and you already indicated you spend a lot of time doing that.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sambam:
His venus is in leo trines my saturn in sag. My venus and sun in cancer trine his jupiter in scorpio.Its like i feel close to him but we hardly speak.We speak of course but its nothing out of the ordinary. He normally asks me about my week, I ask him about his and we speak about his art sometimes. What i do notice though is that he never seems to forget a word i tell him. He sometimes brings things up that ive said and i'm almost amazed he remembered. We stare at each other mmost of the time and then its interrupted by awkaward run ins and stares. He waited for me to catch the subway one night and the whole ride literally consisted of looking at each other,smiles, and awkward laughter...i felt like an idiot

Sounds like you have crushes on each other.

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sambam
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posted November 27, 2013 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sounds about right...it feels like we arent in control and something bigger is pushing us toward each other...now if only the awkward energy would go away.:-P
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Well, the descendant is on the Cardinal cross so it's a sensitive point in your chart so anything around there will be stronger than if it were someplace weaker. Saturn is accidentally dignified around the descendant. It could mean the beginning of a long term relationship that feels a bit like destiny since Pluto's there. Mercury is the planet of communication and you already indicated you spend a lot of time doing that.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yea...i just wish i was in more control of my feelings. I feel a lot like a fish out of water. I'm not the crush getting type...sometimes i want to break the wall and grab his hand or hug him but then i feel like my mars in leo pride gets in the way of that sometimes...
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sambam:
[b]His venus is in leo trines my saturn in sag. My venus and sun in cancer trine his jupiter in scorpio.Its like i feel close to him but we hardly speak.We speak of course but its nothing out of the ordinary. He normally asks me about my week, I ask him about his and we speak about his art sometimes. What i do notice though is that he never seems to forget a word i tell him. He sometimes brings things up that ive said and i'm almost amazed he remembered. We stare at each other mmost of the time and then its interrupted by awkaward run ins and stares. He waited for me to catch the subway one night and the whole ride literally consisted of looking at each other,smiles, and awkward laughter...i felt like an idiot


Sounds like you have crushes on each other.[/B][/QUOTE]

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posted November 27, 2013 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yea...i just wish i was in more control of my feelings. I feel a lot like a fish out of water. I'm not the crush getting type...sometimes i want to break the wall and grab his hand or hug him but then i feel like my mars in leo pride gets in the way of that sometimes...

Oh so you are the one with Mars in Leo? I thought it was him. So, you probably just want to jump in his lap and put your arms around his neck most days and give him a nice big smooch on the cheek?

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posted November 27, 2013 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea im the mars in leo. He's venus in leo. Yes, I want to touch him, not in a gross way, i just want to be my playfull and affectionate self but I over analyze and stop myself. He's touched me in random conversation though. He rubbed my shoulder and thanked me for "always listening to him" once (keep in mind this was after a month of staring at each other and probably about the 3rd conversation we'd ever had.I was confused as we clearly didnt speak enough for him to say that but i thought it was cute anyways...weird but cute. I guess he needed a reason
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sambam:
[b]yea...i just wish i was in more control of my feelings. I feel a lot like a fish out of water. I'm not the crush getting type...sometimes i want to break the wall and grab his hand or hug him but then i feel like my mars in leo pride gets in the way of that sometimes...


Oh so you are the one with Mars in Leo? I thought it was him. So, you probably just want to jump in his lap and put your arms around his neck most days and give him a nice big smooch on the cheek?

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posted November 27, 2013 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yea im the mars in leo. He's venus in leo. Yes, I want to touch him, not in a gross way, i just want to be my playfull and affectionate self but I over analyze and stop myself. He's touched me in random conversation though. He rubbed my shoulder and thanked me for "always listening to him" once (keep in mind this was after a month of staring at each other and probably about the 3rd conversation we'd ever had.I was confused as we clearly didnt speak enough for him to say that but i thought it was cute anyways...weird but cute. I guess he needed a reason

I didn't mean to imply anything gross. Mars is the one who has the overwhelming desire to get closer while Venus is supposedly more receptive and passive. Mars is action oriented, so you might feel that impulse to do something compulsive instead of waiting for him to initiate.

You have his Mars on your Pluto so I am sure there would be a lot of fireworks between you both.

You might have to wait until he is no longer seeing someone. It's more complicated when they are involved with other people.

Still with all that energy, it would be difficult waiting.

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posted November 27, 2013 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know you werent implying anything bad. Sorry,just the way i talk sometimes. Yea i do feel the constant impulse to text,call,touch but i dont.The thing is as much as i want him and i do want him, part of his appeal is that he's a reserved,shy sweetheart.As much as I envy this current girl, I do believe in karma. I just wonder how long were talking here! he just got a divorce not even 6 months ago,its hard to believe he's already seeing someone...:-(. He never speaks about her to me and when he has to or is explaining something about his art or projects theyve worked on together he always says my "art partner"...?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sambam:
[b]Yea im the mars in leo. He's venus in leo. Yes, I want to touch him, not in a gross way, i just want to be my playfull and affectionate self but I over analyze and stop myself. He's touched me in random conversation though. He rubbed my shoulder and thanked me for "always listening to him" once (keep in mind this was after a month of staring at each other and probably about the 3rd conversation we'd ever had.I was confused as we clearly didnt speak enough for him to say that but i thought it was cute anyways...weird but cute. I guess he needed a reason


I didn't mean to imply anything gross. Mars is the one who has the overwhelming desire to get closer while Venus is supposedly more receptive and passive. Mars is action oriented, so you might feel that impulse to do something compulsive instead of waiting for him to initiate.

You have his Mars on your Pluto so I am sure there would be a lot of fireworks between you both.

You might have to wait until he is no longer seeing someone. It's more complicated when they are involved with other people.

Still with all that energy, it would be difficult waiting.[/B][/QUOTE]

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posted November 27, 2013 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I know you werent implying anything bad. Sorry,just the way i talk sometimes. Yea i do feel the constant impulse to text,call,touch but i dont.The thing is as much as i want him and i do want him, part of his appeal is that he's a reserved,shy sweetheart.As much as I envy this current girl, I do believe in karma. I just wonder how long were talking here! he just got a divorce not even 6 months ago,its hard to believe he's already seeing someone...:-(. He never speaks about her to me and when he has to or is explaining something about his art or projects theyve worked on together he always says my "art partner"...?

That could be because he senses you have a crush on him and when people first start relationships, they don't know how long it will last until they get to know the person better. He doesn't want to scare you away by talking about his girlfriend all the time so he just says art partner and hopes you will stay interested.

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posted November 27, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea,makes sense. Do any of the aspects indicate that he may also be thinking about me as well or is it showing all the interest mostly on my side? :-/
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That could be because he senses you have a crush on him and when people first start relationships, they don't know how long it will last until they get to know the person better. He doesn't want to scare you away by talking about his girlfriend all the time so he just says art partner and hopes you will stay interested.


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posted November 27, 2013 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yea,makes sense. Do any of the aspects indicate that he may also be thinking about me as well or is it showing all the interest mostly on my side? :-/

Usually when there's several contacts between two charts it means that both people want to have contact with each other and have some kind of relationship. It can be friendship, family, or romantic, whatever the circumstance. It's a relationship, nonetheless, regardless of type.

One of my longest lasting friendships is with someone who has natal Venus exactly opposite my natal Mars and it was pure friendship, nothing physical or romantic. It was a relationship of some kind. Just because Venus and Mars is involved doesn't always indicate physical romance from what I have seen.

Maybe, it's possible, if one of us were a male, it would be a childhood sweetheart type of relationship, puppy-love or whatnot? Since this was not the case, we didn't experience this aspect in this way.

The circumstances of your life always trumps the planets. For instance, if you have a Venus/Mars conjunction with someone who is married and you are vehemently against infidelity, feel in your heart it is a complete no-no, you are not going to have a physical encounter with the guy until he is single and if he never is, you won't have one even though Venus and Mars are conjunct. You could just end up being good friends.

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posted November 27, 2013 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what's your moon sign?

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posted November 27, 2013 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Auquarius
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what's your moon sign?

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posted November 27, 2013 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm an aquarius moon

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what's your moon sign?

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posted November 27, 2013 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's interesting...well I do want to be his friend too i guess...we'll see.
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Usually when there's several contacts between two charts it means that both people want to have contact with each other and have some kind of relationship. It can be friendship, family, or romantic, whatever the circumstance. It's a relationship, nonetheless, regardless of type.

One of my longest lasting friendships is with someone who has natal Venus exactly opposite my natal Mars and it was pure friendship, nothing physical or romantic. It was a relationship of some kind. Just because Venus and Mars is involved doesn't always indicate physical romance from what I have seen.

Maybe, it's possible, if one of us were a male, it would be a childhood sweetheart type of relationship, puppy-love or whatnot? Since this was not the case, we didn't experience this aspect in this way.

The circumstances of your life always trumps the planets. For instance, if you have a Venus/Mars conjunction with someone who is married and you are vehemently against infidelity, feel in your heart it is a complete no-no, you are not going to have a physical encounter with the guy until he is single and if he never is, you won't have one even though Venus and Mars are conjunct. You could just end up being good friends.


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posted November 27, 2013 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for infinite.nebula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is hard to tell with virgo it seems. Im a cancer alwys seem to gravitate towards virgo moons.

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posted November 28, 2013 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree 100%. They are so hard to read...i don't understand it
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It is hard to tell with virgo it seems. Im a cancer alwys seem to gravitate towards virgo moons.

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