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CAY_512
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posted July 22, 2014 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read this, "once you get a handle on why/how it hurts, you can take that energy and help other people"

Is this the point of chiron. That you can't ever heal yourself but if you develop a true understanding of your wounds you can help others?

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posted July 22, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in the 7th

It USED to be that I couldn't handle my own relationships but was always able to see others clearly, and help them through their problems.

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lalalinda
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posted July 22, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Cay, that's Chiron.

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charlie
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posted July 22, 2014 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Chiron is blurry. He swings between manifestation in 8H and 9H; 2 houses in which I try to make people accept themselves more.

I have Chiron in 9H natal and 8H progressed.

My personal "wound" though.....hmmm....I honestly don't know! See, Lilith is there, right along Chiron, and she's kinda.....forceful with her stuff

This makes me think actually, where my own wound is! If I really had to choose one it'd be my pChiron in 8H (my natal chart makes no sense anyway). I do have some sexual issues but I can discuss, and most likely solve, your problems before sunset. My sexual issues however are dark. And they scare the shi t out of me.

My 9H natal Chiron is cool He's on track with business.

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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 22, 2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CAY_512:
I read this, "once you get a handle on why/how it hurts, you can take that energy and help other people"

Is this the point of chiron. That you can't ever heal yourself but if you develop a true understanding of your wounds you can help others?


Makes sense. I am a Chironic person and it is easy for me to identify how to help soothe other's emotional pain but never my own.

The Chironic type is the wounded healer and teacher. He feels he cannot help himself but he can empathize with others and heal wounds similar to his own. His intense empathy leads him to focus outwardly to avoid his inner pain. His wound isn't impossible to heal, but the process of his own healing may feel complicated or too complex. It is mysterious, difficult to understand, and full healing may take away his teacher/guidance/mentor role - a better part of his identity, which could lead to subconscious resistance toward healing.

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LuckyStar
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posted July 22, 2014 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyStar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chiron sits in my fourth house conjunct the ic and exactly conjunct amor.

This is how it makes me feel...Sometimes the pain hurts so much that it burns and the agony makes it burn so hot that it burns up completely and all you have left is love. (my chiron/amor conjunction is in aries)

I could not feel the intensity of the pain - I blocked it through the years- until I married my aries husband he conjunct chiron/amor by 3 degrees. The pain I feel in this relationship is what has taught me the above. The love I feel is not selfish - it is mature and all encompassing. I am not talking romantic love for my husband. It is more like love of life and people.

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BellaFenice
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posted July 22, 2014 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in 6th. Sigh.

Once I get a handle on it I will start helping people. Got to heal myself first though. Very interesting point!

Probably is related to my Pluto in 1st transit: learning to gain and use power appropriately.

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Supreme cT
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posted July 22, 2014 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron leo in 7th trine venus in sagittarius i wonder if that means i can heal myself since they aspect each other hmmm

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AlexDern
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posted July 22, 2014 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can heal Chiron...Chiron couldn't heal himself but Chiron is a demigod...It would be a sign of ego inflation to believe that we couldn't heal ourselves in some regard. We might lose our limbs, or suffer organic damage, but spiritually we can heal.

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posted July 23, 2014 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is just so strange, but so utterly important in our lives. I think it is one of the most important parts of us at the deepest, deepest level. It's the pain in us that we can't touch, so we can't heal it ourselves. It's usually something or someone outside of ourselves that triggers the healing of our Chiron wounds. With Chiron, the healing comes through pain. It is painful healing in the most literal sense.

My Chiron is in Aries in the 10th, in a wide conjunction with my Midheaven.

Here's an example of how Chiron heals:

My husband's Moon trines my Chrion 0°. He has helped me heal my pain of emotional abandonment. My Dad died when I was 6, and my Mom emotionally neglected me as a child, and eventually physically abandoned me when I was a teenager to run off to Mexico with her 5th or 6th husband. I've tried to have a relationship with her many times, but she truly just does not want one. She just doesn't have any maternal attachment to me at all. It's strange, but I've learned to just accept the fact of it. It is what it is.

It caused me a lot of pain, but I could never see it myself. I guess I was in denial. My husband saw it clearly and was always trying to convince me that I needed to admit to myself how much it hurt me that my own mother didn't love me. I just didn't want to even think about it, really. I just tried to put it out of my mind, but whenever I would hear other people talking about their close relationship with their Mom or would watch movies or shows that had a strong Mother-daughter bond in them, it would hurt. I would wish I knew what that felt like.

One night, a particularly tough night, my husband and I were having some argument. I was thinking of leaving him because I just felt like I needed to pull away. I could feel my attachment to him was too strong, and I felt my self defenses starting to kick into gear. I have Uranus in 4th conj. IC 3°, so I don't like feeling emotionally vulnerable due to past disappointments and hurts. I always try to shield myself from feeling too deeply for someone, which is a paradox in itself because I have Moon-Pluto conj. 3°. The only way I know how to feel is deeply.

Anyway, my husband knew I loved him and didn't really want to leave him, but I was wanting to run out of fear. He started yelling at me and telling me he knew I was just afraid and I couldn't run away from people just because I was afraid of getting hurt. We were both crying and it was very intense, but I felt trapped. I felt like I was waiting for the other shoe to drop all the time, waiting for the rug to get yanked out from under me.

He wouldn't let me shut him out, though. He confronted me with my fear and hurt, and told me, "This is because of your Mom. This is because that bitc* couldn't love anyone but herself, so now you think you can't be loved. You think no one can really love you. What do you want?! This is never gonna stop. You're never gonna get over this until you admit how much she hurt you. What do you want me to do? You want me to hurt you like she did so you'll feel right? Ok, fine... you're right! You're not worth loving. What the hell is wrong with you?! You're so damn awful that even your own Mother couldn't love you. What kind of person is so bad that even their own Mom doesn't love them? What a piece of shi* you must be!"

When he was saying the words... each one felt like a dagger. EACH - WORD felt like a knife directly piercing my heart... but at the same time, they were some of the most healing words anyone had ever said to me. I cried so hard and so deeply it shocked me to my core. I was balled up in the fetal position on the bed just crying and crying. My husband grabbed onto me and just held me so tightly. He said, "That's what you've been holding inside. That's the pain you didn't want to feel. You have to feel it so you can let it go." He told me he loved me and made sure I knew he'd only said those things because those were the things I was thinking deep inside, but wouldn't admit to myself. He made sure I knew he didn't actually think any of that was true.

The whole experience was so painful and hurt so much, but it was so, so deeply healing. It just released so much of the pain my mother had caused me, because he was right. Those were all subconscious thoughts I had deep inside myself and hearing them actually spoken made me realize they were lies. They were not true. Whether my Mom loved me or not wasn't the measure of what I was worth.
It was a very Chiron moment in my life. I was healed through pain.

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CAY_512
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posted July 23, 2014 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for sharing your stories. <3

My chiron is in my second & I have a wounded sense of self-worth that stems from the verbal abuse from my father.

I have no idea how to heal that. I worry that my husband will wake up one day & see me how I see me.

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