posted May 19, 2015 08:58 AM            

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posted May 19, 2015 09:45 AM            

How close in orb do they have to be?

Are they just opposite in sign and degree?

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posted May 19, 2015 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
They seem like the quincunx. They seem like they have the properties of a conjunction but with the ability to transform like the quincunx.

How close in orb do they have to be?

Are they just opposite in sign and degree?

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In 27 years I have never heard the quincunx reference, learn something new everyday.
If you are using astro.com I cannot tell you what to select, haven't used that site in a while.Here is an example at ?

[URL=http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=jupiter%2CSaturn&day=7&month=9&year=1961&time=14%3A50&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=day&lines=1&calendar=Gregorian&zodiac=Tropi cal&o]http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=jupiter%2CSaturn&day=7&month=9&year=1961&time=14%3A50&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=day&lines=1&calendar=Gregorian&zodiac=Trop ical&o[/URL] rigin=Geocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec=D%B0M%27S&longitude=on&latitude=on&declination=on&nnode=on&.submit=Get+Ephemeris < get it all

the 2 planets thought 4*10 apart in Longitude are conjunct both in declination and latitude.
Declination is the one you are looking for first.no more that 1 degree orb
For latitude they need to be in same degree

posted May 19, 2015 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
In 27 years I have never heard the quincunx reference, learn something new everyday.
If you are using astro.com I cannot tell you what to select, haven't used that site in a while.Here is an example at ?

[URL=http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=jupiter%2CSaturn&day=7&month=9&year=1961&time=14%3A50&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=day&lines=1&calendar=Gregorian&zodiac=Tropi cal&o]http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=jupiter%2CSaturn&day=7&month=9&year=1961&time=14%3A50&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=day&lines=1&calendar=Gregorian&zodiac=Trop ical&o[/URL] rigin=Geocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec=D%B0M%27S&longitude=on&latitude=on&declination=on&nnode=on&.submit=Get+Ephemeris < get it all

the 2 planets thought 4*10 apart in Longitude are conjunct both in declination and latitude.
Declination is the one you are looking for first.no more that 1 degree orb
For latitude they need to be in same degree

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posted May 19, 2015 01:55 PM            

The movements of the planets move in a serpentine up/down motion (north/south). When two or more planets/points reach the same level of distance from the earth's celestial equator they are in parallel or contra-parallel aspect, depending on whether they are in the same or opposite hemisphere.

Parallels are conjunctions of declination and are best interpreted with that in mind. Some planets in parallel can be simultaneously in quincunx aspect, but I would not at all say that parallels function like quincunxes, nor would I say that they have the power to transforum.

You can see them by looking at planets/points highlighted in the night sky. When you can see that two are about equal distance south (or north) of you, they are roughly parallel. At astro.com you can find them in the pdf data sheet link - "Additional tables (PDF)" - right above the chart image after you've made your other chart choices.

In freeware ASTROLOG go to Edit > Enter Command Line > and type "/sr" (w/o quotes). This will display declination positions of all planets in the right column (but will throw off the longitude positions). To switch back to longitudes you'll have to re-enter the same command.

Learning parallels depends on your determination to see the whole sky, instead of thinking of astrology as existing on flat chart images.

posted May 19, 2015 02:30 PM            

Thanks Everyone.

I appreciate it

The quincunx is an aspect of transformation. It allows different things to form a new whole in the manner of a peach and a plum becoming a nectarine, or maybe it is not a plum

Anyway, the illustration still holds

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posted May 19, 2015 02:30 PM            

Can a person just look at a natal chart and see parallels or do you have to go to a special place to look.

I am thinking you do and that is what you left for me.

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posted May 19, 2015 02:49 PM            

Sun/Venus makes me CRAVE balance, serenity, beauty in all things, unfortunately Uranus does what he wants :-/

Mars/Pluto.....that's a whole other ballgame. I am explosive. And strong-willed. I never give up!! I also have a constant drive, and need, to transform. I am highly sexual. I also seem to exude "pain" or sadness, or so I've been told. I love challenges! I drive cars as if I have a death wish.

posted May 19, 2015 03:17 PM            

Do you see what I mean?

Is it a whole different system or do you do both and just combine them but how would you weight it next to say an exact conjunction, for example

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posted May 19, 2015 07:21 PM            

If it appears to be a whole different system it is only because conventional flat wheel charts are 2-D. So you have to switch to another 'data set' to get declination positions. You take that data, with parallels virtually synonymous in nature and strength to conjunctions, and integrate it into the overall interpretation of a person's horoscope.

In other words, the flat wheel charts we call "normal" do not properly fully depict the actual movements of the planets. So interpretation is actually one-eyed without including a planet's declination position.

The reason I included the image at the top of my first response is to trigger a 3-D visualization of what declinations are. The planets do not move in flat orbits around the Sun. They move in a wave-like motion which has crests in north declination and valleys in south declination.
http://youtu.be/0jHsq36_NTU

posted May 19, 2015 07:32 PM            

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posted May 19, 2015 07:47 PM            

If you would please help me, I would appreciate it.

I have Gemini Sun 28, Gemini mercury 21, Gemini Venus 8, Cancer Moon 8, Cancer Mars 16 and Nessus 20.

What does these mean? Thanks so much for any help.

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posted May 19, 2015 10:39 PM            

The orb to use for parallel/contra-parallel aspects is 1 degree or a bit more, depending on planets involved. Luminaries get more leeway, as does Jupiter.

Your listing of planets by zodiac position suggests that the Sun and Mercury are probably parallel, but that is all I can tell you without the actual birth data to enter into astrolog to take a quick look.

posted May 19, 2015 11:54 PM            

On astro.com, generate your chart and open the Additional tables (PDF) file. You'll find the parallels and contra-parallels under Declinations.

A parallel occurs when two planets' latitudes are close to each other (one degree orb maximum) and on the same side of the celestial equator (N or S). A contra-parallel occurs when they're on opposite sides of the celestial equator. For instance :

18°28'42" N and 18°52'25" N are parallel.

11°09'11" N and 12°00'21" S are contra-parallel.

Parallels and contra-parallels can be compared to conjunctions and oppositions. They act the same way, but they're stronger ; and they have even more influence when the planets involved already share an aspect in the charts (longitudes).

posted May 20, 2015 08:38 AM            

I needed that and thank you, Kannon, Seimi and Midnight Venus, too.

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posted May 20, 2015 12:01 PM            

Sun [23N26] is parallel Mars [23N29] and Pluto [22N53]. This is an alignment of great energy, vitality, power and drive. This generally means a strong constitution and the ability to put in long days, probably with the tendency to be a night owl with sun in air.

Moon 22N is parallel Uranus 21N26 which is paralle Venus 20N56. That is the psychic factor, the fusing of internal reception/Moon, transcendent knowing/Uranus, and relatability/Venus.

Notice how these parallels involve planets that are up to two signs apart, including ones from Gemini, Cancer, Leo.

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posted May 20, 2015 01:25 PM            

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posted May 20, 2015 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Ami,

On astro.com, generate your chart and open the [b]Additional tables (PDF) file. You'll find the parallels and contra-parallels under Declinations.

A parallel occurs when two planets' latitudes are close to each other (one degree orb maximum) and on the same side of the celestial equator (N or S). A contra-parallel occurs when they're on opposite sides of the celestial equator. For instance :

18°28'42" N and 18°52'25" N are parallel.

11°09'11" N and 12°00'21" S are contra-parallel.

Parallels and contra-parallels can be compared to conjunctions and oppositions. They act the same way, but they're stronger ; and they have even more influence when the planets involved already share an aspect in the charts (longitudes).

There's lots of information on the Internet, too. [/B]

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Are parallels the conjunctions and contra the oppositions, P?

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posted May 20, 2015 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Are parallels the conjunctions and contra the oppositions, P?

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This I can answer!

Parallels are like conjunctions, they are in the same pole
N-N/S-S

posted May 20, 2015 02:30 PM            

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