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Topic: Do you ever have people invading your personal space or dissing you?
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Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 514 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted February 12, 2016 11:55 PM
I would like to know what aspects this would be! I've always had people that just invade my personal space or or try to control me! It's so freaking weirdIP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7614 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 13, 2016 12:06 AM
Quite common for men, not so much for women. Not to say women are respectful, they just tend to be less aggressive that way, and you won't hear it when they diss you. All generally speaking, of course.IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 365 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted February 13, 2016 12:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by Geminiyoungster: I would like to know what aspects this would be! I've always had people that just invade my personal space or or try to control me! It's so freaking weird
Are you strongly Uranian or strongly plutonian? Angular Lilith will do this too.
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted February 13, 2016 01:03 AM
Edit: Nevermind. I'm not sure. IP: Logged |
diamondbaby Knowflake Posts: 122 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted February 13, 2016 01:19 AM
I know a Cancer Sun/Aries Moon/Gemini Ascendant woman who ALWAYS invades people's personal space (including mine). She is so annoying. IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 514 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted February 13, 2016 01:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Spongebob: Are you strongly Uranian or strongly plutonian?Angular Lilith will do this too.
I have a moon square pluto, does that count? IP: Logged |
MsAlohaPanda Knowflake Posts: 33 From: The other side of the looking glass Registered: Aug 2015
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posted February 13, 2016 08:45 PM
Ha, strongly Uranian with Pluto in Scorpio Sun square n some other aspects, haha, well that clears it..IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 3413 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 13, 2016 10:17 PM
I stand really close to people I'm close with. (Like I almost hover..)My sister says it's annoying but I can't help but LOVVEEE YOUUU With mostly everyone else I usually keep my distance I am ULTRA VENUSIAN 👼😉😎 IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 6639 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted February 13, 2016 10:22 PM
Yes... This happens to me.. People trying to invade my space... both literally and figuratively. And it hasn't been just men...I have to be all like: IP: Logged |
neptunicity Knowflake Posts: 721 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted February 14, 2016 02:02 AM
I have moon square chiron, and I have read that it makes the native's boundaries violated, which I think is quite true in my case. http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat02.html IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7614 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 14, 2016 02:05 AM
It just occurs to me that many people I wouldn't describe that way might be thought of that way by others. I know how to hold my own and assert my boundaries so it's not so much of a problem with me, but they could run over others who didn't know how to stand up for themselves and say what was acceptable to them and what wasn't. At least for me I just recall the men who invaded my personal space that I had to smack back (they probably thought they were being sexy by being so assertive, and ironically some women who would consider those I get along with to be bullying and invasive might have found their attention flattering rather than exasperating and worse) and as a result I don't know their signs, and often didn't even get their names. The few women who were that way to me are stories that are comedic or epic in the telling. I think most were too scared because I don't buy into being sweet in those times somehow makes me a good person or reaps me good karma. I'll try to find birth info on my aunt (her son might look it up since he said I'm his favorite cousin after I beat his mother up a little over a year ago, after she violently invaded my space once again while giving me her usual disses--as she's done to so many others, which is why her son now calls me his favorite cousin). IP: Logged |
ScorpioMoon Knowflake Posts: 254 From: the 4th house Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 14, 2016 09:52 PM
This happened to me all the time as a child/teen. Basically almost any and everyone would disrespect me by touching me inappropriately (in a sexual manner) hitting for no reason, taking my belongings and hiding them from me, taking my things and tossing them to the ground and going to me bedroom and snooping around without a care in the world. When i would confront someone about this kind of behavior, it's always "Go sit down" or i would get completely ignored only to have the perpetrator continue to snoop or refuse to pick up my belongings/ give them back to me. I would respond with physical violence in the case of being touched inappropriately . D: As for getting dissed, basically I feel like there is always a petty insult or passive-aggressive verbal attack waiting for me around every corner. These attacks can range from what I'm wearing/ my looks or an insult toward my intelligence or my ideals. With a Virgo DSC and and 11th house Capricorn/Saturn in the 11th house I seem to attract some really fault finding people be it a child, a grown man, or a grown woman.Some aspects the stand out to me in my chart: Scorpio moon in the 8th house Pluto in the 8th house Mars square Jupiter Mars square Saturn Sun Conjunct Chiron? Sun Conjunct Jupiter Jupiter Conjunct Chiron Neptune in the 10thouse Neptune Conjunct MC Sun/Merucry opposite Neptune? Sun/Mercury trine Pluto IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 15814 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 14, 2016 10:11 PM
Doesn't everyone have these issues? A little anyway.Well I was the youngest of six kids growing up and had my "room" in the attic with three of my brothers for a while, having not much privacy...it was fine, my brothers are normal people...but for so long I didn't have my own room and had to adapt my mentality to acceptance of that fact. And just being the youngest meant I had low expectations about things NOT being messed with... And again, I adapted by taking an attitude that was more healthy to me (as a little kid, I didn't think of it in those terms of course)...but I just gave everything away. Shared anything I had. No more worries about defending my turf. I had nothing...BUT I had peace of mind, cause I wasn't going to get robbed! If they took it that meant I shared it with them. Funny but I think this affects my general demeanor, and from my perspective, by being open, I deter the people who want to "invade" from even coming near me. Like if they are in a banging-down-walls mood, they will probably not look at me and think, "Now THERE is someone to hit with the battering ram!!" I feel like most of the time, I'm so go-with-the-flow, I blend into the energetic scenery and can hide there. And I was always sorta like that. I think it kept me safe. I'm just musing about this and after thinking some more I could realize I was wrong and edit this. For now, it sounds about right. IP: Logged |
neptunicity Knowflake Posts: 721 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted February 15, 2016 02:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpioMoon: This happened to me all the time as a child/teen. Basically almost any and everyone would disrespect me by touching me inappropriately (in a sexual manner) hitting for no reason, taking my belongings and hiding them from me, taking my things and tossing them to the ground and going to me bedroom and snooping around without a care in the world. When i would confront someone about this kind of behavior, it's always "Go sit down" or i would get completely ignored only to have the perpetrator continue to snoop or refuse to pick up my belongings/ give them back to me. I would respond with physical violence in the case of being touched inappropriately . D: As for getting dissed, basically I feel like there is always a petty insult or passive-aggressive verbal attack waiting for me around every corner. These attacks can range from what I'm wearing/ my looks or an insult toward my intelligence or my ideals. With a Virgo DSC and and 11th house Capricorn/Saturn in the 11th house I seem to attract some really fault finding people be it a child, a grown man, or a grown woman.Some aspects the stand out to me in my chart: Scorpio moon in the 8th house Pluto in the 8th house Mars square Jupiter Mars square Saturn Sun Conjunct Chiron? Sun Conjunct Jupiter Jupiter Conjunct Chiron Neptune in the 10thouse Neptune Conjunct MC Sun/Merucry opposite Neptune? Sun/Mercury trine Pluto
I have read that people with Sun conjunct Chiron get bullied, it's the bullying aspect. I have Sun trine ascendant and Sun sextile Chiron, and I also had my share of being sexually abused and being treated unfairly. I have Chiron and Mars in the 4th, so the bullying that I get is from my family. IP: Logged |
Spongebob Knowflake Posts: 365 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted February 15, 2016 02:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpioMoon: This happened to me all the time as a child/teen. Basically almost any and everyone would disrespect me by touching me inappropriately (in a sexual manner) hitting for no reason, taking my belongings and hiding them from me, taking my things and tossing them to the ground and going to me bedroom and snooping around without a care in the world. When i would confront someone about this kind of behavior, it's always "Go sit down" or i would get completely ignored only to have the perpetrator continue to snoop or refuse to pick up my belongings/ give them back to me. I would respond with physical violence in the case of being touched inappropriately . D: As for getting dissed, basically I feel like there is always a petty insult or passive-aggressive verbal attack waiting for me around every corner. These attacks can range from what I'm wearing/ my looks or an insult toward my intelligence or my ideals. With a Virgo DSC and and 11th house Capricorn/Saturn in the 11th house I seem to attract some really fault finding people be it a child, a grown man, or a grown woman.Some aspects the stand out to me in my chart: Scorpio moon in the 8th house Pluto in the 8th house Mars square Jupiter Mars square Saturn Sun Conjunct Chiron? Sun Conjunct Jupiter Jupiter Conjunct Chiron Neptune in the 10thouse Neptune Conjunct MC Sun/Merucry opposite Neptune? Sun/Mercury trine Pluto
I have moon pluto in the eighth too and have experienced some of these things also. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7614 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 15, 2016 10:53 AM
Bullies go after anyone they think are weak (or a threat). Those chronically bullied frequently come from families where they're abused at home as well. I figure this makes them distrusting and expecting the worst so that they don't form friendships and have a tendency to cringe, and a lack of friends and tendency to cringe would draw the bullies.Though interesting enough, plenty of bullies also come from abusive homes who repeat the abuse they endure on other kids. Perhaps that's tied into the natal chart. A Pisces moon raised with terrible abuse will be deeply affected feeling that they deserve it (as they absorb the emotions of their abuser that causes the Pisces moon child to hate the self) as well as fearing to be close to anyone who can radiate similar hostile energy so instead flees to a fantasy world of books and thus become the kid reading by himself bullied at school, whereas a Leo moon would need to rebuild their pride and imitate the abuser's behavior and thus become a bully instead of the bullied. A Cancer moon could be a bit of both, believing they deserve the abuse at home and yet looking for those who deserve the abuse even more (for example, one beaten by a father to "toughen him up" might lash out at a guy he believes is effeminate or sensitive as this both helps him feel better and doubles as a way to punish that which is inside him, put into someone else like a ritual scapegoat). This is just off the top of my head. Just to be clear, I'm not saying "Leo moon are bullies," just speculating how the moon might react to abuse at home since the worst bullies, and those who endure the worst bullying, tend to come from abusive homes. I believe my mom is a narcissist because of both her natal chart AND that she was abused (had she not endured the abuse and such growing up then she would not be a narcissist), but had I been raised with the same exact childhood she had (but my own chart rather than hers) then I expect I'd be on death row and feeling fully justified in inflicting torture and death on people (ie, society would be right to lock me away as a mad dog) rather than a narcissist, because the abuse would've twisted my natal chart energy just as my mother's natal chart energy was twisted (and we were born with different energy). And it's not that someone can't overcome the abuse and heal, but it's exceedingly difficult, and typically not something one can't do without help...genuine help, not the official kinds of help, or platitudes. But that aside, everyone is going to have their personal space violated and dissed at some point, and I expect everyone will violate someone else's space and diss them (though they'll probably feel fully justified for it rather than "for kicks," but the one they treat so won't feel that it's justified and see it as an uncalled for action against them). That's just life. I don't think it requires a special chart for people to invade your personal space or diss you (though of course synastry could bring out the worst in people, a flower to one person is a weed to another), and I took the question as being who is prone to making a habit of it rather than why is one the victim of it.
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Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 514 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted February 16, 2016 01:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Yes... This happens to me.. People trying to invade my space... both literally and figuratively. And it hasn't been just men...I have to be all like:
This made me laugh so hard Odette. Omg!!!
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darksoul18 Knowflake Posts: 403 From: Mercury Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 16, 2016 02:19 AM
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