posted July 08, 2018 05:10 PM            

Gemini sun
Capricorn moon
Cancer mars
Cancer mercury
Gemini venus

Sagittarius Saturn
Sagittarius Uranus
Aries Jupiter
Capricorn Neptune
Scorpio Pluto

What is the possible scenario to get rid of this combo?

I can't just move out as I am close to my baby due date, and if I am too direct about leaving he would do anything to cause drama or trying to manipulate me with sex or acting like he cares for a moment.

He hurts me emotionally during my pregnancy, I cry a lot and I feel ALONE as I feel like I am the only one who care about this baby. I save money to the baby, but he spends money recklessly and impulsively to what he really wants at the moment. I also can't stand how controlling he is but fail to keep his behavior controlled, so unfair. The whining and the combative voice drains me, I start hating his way of talking. The lying and keeping some information from me, makes me think he is being a two-faced which also makes me questioning if I can trust him (he has cheating history in the past, I admit that it haunts me 'till now as he just let it be and move on than talking to me how to fix it. Those entire memories questioning every of his words and actions and if I can trust the baby with him, I hate it as it makes me feel unsafe in the relationship and feel like I waste my time and energy keeping it inside and I want to get out quickly).

posted July 08, 2018 05:27 PM            

If you're not financially dependant on him, why can't you just leave him?

He might be having a hard time dealing with the stress of having a baby, and if he's not emotionally mature enough he will take his frustration out on you. Has he been abusive?

The question is, do you care enough about him to stay?

Does he care about you and show you that with his actions?

If he's not honest with you, and you don't trust him, what's the point of staying?

The right person might be just around the corner, if you have the courage to leave your current situation.

posted July 08, 2018 05:33 PM            

You are a grown woman, correct? Why are you allowing yourself to be manipulated? Do you have friends or family you can temporarily stay with? If not, are you religious? Perhaps you can ask someone at your place of worship for some resources for women in your situation.

posted July 09, 2018 04:19 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Sorry to hear that.

If you're not financially dependant on him, why can't you just leave him?

He might be having a hard time dealing with the stress of having a baby, and if he's not emotionally mature enough he will take his frustration out on you. Has he been abusive?

The question is, do you care enough about him to stay?

Does he care about you and show you that with his actions?

If he's not honest with you, and you don't trust him, what's the point of staying?

The right person might be just around the corner, if you have the courage to leave your current situation.

He may care about the baby once he/she is born, and he might grow to be a good enough father, but you have the right to be with the person who deserves you. Staying with him just for the baby, isn't a situation you'll want to create for yourself.

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Both of us not financially dependent to each other, but sometimes we support each other (depends on the situation). I wanted to leave two months before (my family supports me) because I couldn't handle the stress dealing with him anymore and worried the further psychology affect to the baby, but the urge to once again tried to have a discussion with him was so strong, I ended up letting him know and told him that he wouldn't see the birth of the baby as I was hurted so deep by his actions and words.

I suspected he took his frustration out on me due to some pressure from something I didn't know. I told him that I never ever asked him anything and I never ever demanded him to fulfill my needs but he put pressure on me like I wasn't good enough and asked him what is "good enough" means for him so I could work through it if I could or if not he could find another chick and I would be happy to let him go. I also asked him why he wanted to be in a relationship with me, a marriage and now having a baby, just to end up hurting me more? etc etc etc.. I let him answered all the questions in his heart as he just kept silent.

(In the past we had some domestic violence issues after he got caught cheating and playing games in the relationship)

He then stop hurting me verbally (a.k.a making me questioning my self-worth, trying to drag me down into his level, undervalue my self-esteem, putting me into the dark thought by intentionally threatening me and hit my vulnerable side, etc) so I thought there's a hope although secretly I still open my eyes to look out his sneaky behavior to protect me.

I am on the state where I am fine to let him go.

I don't know if he really cares about me as it's inconsistent (the only consistent thing he does is making sure there's food, like, I'm not that big eater, he does) and he let me do everything, from finding the information (doctor, hospital, etc) to buying things for the preparation of welcoming the baby (I manage my financial and try to safe some money to a really worst case). He is just there waiting to know everything and starts criticizing without really trying to help me. He keeps buying his own stuff. I feel like I am the only one who care and he is just busy with his own selfish world.

posted July 09, 2018 05:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
I have a Gemini Sun and capricorn moon combo. I prefer partners who are direct....no BS. This combo does not respect dependent people at all, and unfortunately, you are acting as if you are a needy/dependent woman. This guy sounds like a jerk. Don't have sex with him. Don't reward him for his abusive behavior.

You are a grown woman, correct? Why are you allowing yourself to be manipulated? Do you have friends or family you can temporarily stay with? If not, are you religious? Perhaps you can ask someone at your place of worship for some resources for women in your situation.

Good luck with this situation. It's very difficult and stressful, but you need to put yourself and the baby first.

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Do you have Cancer placement?

The Cancer placement makes him so sensitive and quick to attack before he finishes rationalizing the situation. So, every time I come too direct, I always feel like he drags me into the war field or he becomes ignorant. At the end of the day, I feel like I'm wasting my time and energy being direct.

I don't like confrontation, I don't like repeating myself if I know the person I am with is naturally manipulative. So I manage to call him out of his manipulation once for a while. It doesn't mean I let me in one, but my goal is to let him know I notice, I collect, and he must deal with the consequences. At the same time, I have high tolerance and try to make it work, so, yeah, I need some time to reach the point.

I don't like feeling dependent to other people, including my friends or family, I am considering taking a new place where I can be alone for a while with my baby so I can think clear. Too much emotional drama drains me, too much people get involved confused me. My family kind of supports me to leave him (exclude my Dad, who thinks I need to be more patient and try to think it through once again as he doesn't want the baby growing up without a Father. He learns psychology, so he kind of understand where my husband is coming from and etc) but I can't just leave him like that as he can cause big drama and won't leave me alone.

I'm not openly religious, in the past I was, but due to some bad experiences, I keep the religious side within me.

posted July 09, 2018 12:15 PM            

For most gems if things aren't working out they'll just move on, trust me its easy for us to find something else and leave.
Suddenly Dispersing in the middle of night
is a specialty.

I think your too nice of a person, one gem male to another he's being a$$hole and should be more considerate of you during your pregnancy.

Your carrying his child he should have the decency to at least appreciate that. Never was a fan of Cancer Mercury.

posted July 09, 2018 06:28 PM            

As another Gemini male, it's best that you leave this guy. Having a baby requires sacrifice and emotional maturity, and he doesn't have any of that from your description. I do understand your dad's perspective, but it's also bad for your baby to grow up with parents who aren't on the same page.

Cancer Mars and Mercury are a complete contrast to Gemini Sun and Venus. Mars and Mercury are very uncomfortable in such a feminine and emotional sign, and Venus is a feminine planet in a masculine sign (I have Venus in Gemini myself, which manifests in me valuing intelligence, humor, and communication heavily in a partner). The Moon, ruler of Cancer, is also uncomfortable in Capricorn, which is about achievement, success, business, etc. This is why he's so good at putting food on the table, as Capricorn Moon is VERY serious and ambitious.

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
Sounds like he has some kind of dependence on you but has to much of an ego to admit it.

For most gems if things aren't working out they'll just move on, trust me its easy for us to find something else and leave.
Suddenly Dispersing in the middle of night
is a specialty.

I think your too nice of a person, one gem male to another he's being a$$hole and should be more considerate of you during your pregnancy.

Your carrying his child he should have the decency to at least appreciate that. Never was a fan of Cancer Mercury.

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posted July 09, 2018 07:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Mars in Cancer is tough to deal with. That with Mars/Mercury conjunction...

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posted July 09, 2018 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Both of us not financially dependent to each other, but sometimes we support each other (depends on the situation). I wanted to leave two months before (my family supports me) because I couldn't handle the stress dealing with him anymore and worried the further psychology affect to the baby, but the urge to once again tried to have a discussion with him was so strong, I ended up letting him know and told him that he wouldn't see the birth of the baby as I was hurted so deep by his actions and words.

I suspected he took his frustration out on me due to some pressure from something I didn't know. I told him that I never ever asked him anything and I never ever demanded him to fulfill my needs but he put pressure on me like I wasn't good enough and asked him what is "good enough" means for him so I could work through it if I could or if not he could find another chick and I would be happy to let him go. I also asked him why he wanted to be in a relationship with me, a marriage and now having a baby, just to end up hurting me more? etc etc etc.. I let him answered all the questions in his heart as he just kept silent.

(In the past we had some domestic violence issues after he got caught cheating and playing games in the relationship)

He then stop hurting me verbally (a.k.a making me questioning my self-worth, trying to drag me down into his level, undervalue my self-esteem, putting me into the dark thought by intentionally threatening me and hit my vulnerable side, etc) so I thought there's a hope although secretly I still open my eyes to look out his sneaky behavior to protect me.

I am on the state where I am fine to let him go.

I don't know if he really cares about me as it's inconsistent (the only consistent thing he does is making sure there's food, like, I'm not that big eater, he does) and he let me do everything, from finding the information (doctor, hospital, etc) to buying things for the preparation of welcoming the baby (I manage my financial and try to safe some money to a really worst case). He is just there waiting to know everything and starts criticizing without really trying to help me. He keeps buying his own stuff. I feel like I am the only one who care and he is just busy with his own selfish world.

My Dad also told me to wait until the baby is born, but the hurt is so deep within me and it eats me. I may forgive but I don't forget, to protect me from patterns. I feel like I want to let this ship sink, intentionally, slowly, so he gets the message.

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posted July 09, 2018 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
I have a Gemini Sun and capricorn moon combo. I prefer partners who are direct....no BS. This combo does not respect dependent people at all, and unfortunately, you are acting as if you are a needy/dependent woman. This guy sounds like a jerk. Don't have sex with him. Don't reward him for his abusive behavior.

You are a grown woman, correct? Why are you allowing yourself to be manipulated? Do you have friends or family you can temporarily stay with? If not, are you religious? Perhaps you can ask someone at your place of worship for some resources for women in your situation.

Good luck with this situation. It's very difficult and stressful, but you need to put yourself and the baby first.

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posted July 10, 2018 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
Sounds like he has some kind of dependence on you but has to much of an ego to admit it.

For most gems if things aren't working out they'll just move on, trust me its easy for us to find something else and leave.
Suddenly Dispersing in the middle of night
is a specialty.

I think your too nice of a person, one gem male to another he's being a$$hole and should be more considerate of you during your pregnancy.

Your carrying his child he should have the decency to at least appreciate that. Never was a fan of Cancer Mercury.

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It's kind of tricky to tell if it's easy for him to move on or not because he was in an on-off relationship with his longtime ex for 6 or 7 years and repeating the same pattern with me. So when we were off, he would quickly find the replacement which I found out he had been unfaithful during the relationship, pretty smart covering up his sneaky behavior through his nurturing side.

The confusing part was he always came back.

During the pregnancy I try to avoid long hurtful argument with him because I am in a war within me with my pregnancy mood. I admit that it's really not enjoyable experience and the fact that I also try to cope up with his inconsistent mood. Emotional support during the pregnancy is minimum. I don't ask him because if he really cares he will done it without me asking but I do communicate just for a conversation sake.

posted July 10, 2018 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Mars in Cancer is tough to deal with. That with Mars/Mercury conjunction...

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posted July 10, 2018 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by kewf1988:
THIS.

As another Gemini male, it's best that you leave this guy. Having a baby requires sacrifice and emotional maturity, and he doesn't have any of that from your description. I do understand your dad's perspective, but it's also bad for your baby to grow up with parents who aren't on the same page.

Cancer Mars and Mercury are a complete contrast to Gemini Sun and Venus. Mars and Mercury are very uncomfortable in such a feminine and emotional sign, and Venus is a feminine planet in a masculine sign (I have Venus in Gemini myself, which manifests in me valuing intelligence, humor, and communication heavily in a partner). The Moon, ruler of Cancer, is also uncomfortable in Capricorn, which is about achievement, success, business, etc. This is why he's so good at putting food on the table, as Capricorn Moon is VERY serious and ambitious.

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Yes, we are not in the same page, I have let him know about it too but he always ignores it. Sometimes I feel like I am talking to a wall as he doesn't really listen and he feels like I think too high or too complicated.

posted July 10, 2018 03:05 PM            

Where should I start?? I am a Cancer Sun, Venus, Mercury + Cap Moon btw

This Mars is vindictive, passive agrressive and likes crocodile tears. They are also bitter and inwardly jealous WHICH, you will pay for. They also like to treat you like sh1t only to try and "buy you back" in various ways.

It's really so easy for us that are not involved in your life to tell you to leave him but it isn't that easy, is it!?

I will not give you any advice but I will say that your gut already has all the answers. Listen. You won't regret it!

Oh, forgot. My Dad is a Gemini Sun too....

posted July 10, 2018 03:23 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Ah, Cancer Mars....I could write a BOOK about this placement having dated 2 "men" for a combined 12 years. My Dad also has a Cancer Mars.

Where should I start?? I am a Cancer Sun, Venus, Mercury + Cap Moon btw

This Mars is vindictive, passive agrressive and likes crocodile tears. They are also bitter and inwardly jealous WHICH, you will pay for. They also like to treat you like sh1t only to try and "buy you back" in various ways.

It's really so easy for us that are not involved in your life to tell you to leave him but it isn't that easy, is it!?

I will not give you any advice but I will say that your gut already has all the answers. Listen. You won't regret it!

Oh, forgot. My Dad is a Gemini Sun too....

Wouldn't surprise me if your guy is jealous for you carrying a child. If so, he wouldn't be able to logically process the fact that it's also HIS child. He'd see it as you + child vs. him.

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posted July 10, 2018 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Domestic Violence? That's when you should have left him. A man should never put his hands on a woman that's a big no no. And why would your father think you should stay with him until the baby is born. Knowing that he's been physically abusive to you in the past? I really think it would be best for you and your baby if you leave as soon as possible.

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My husband grows up with a history that his parents also were in a domestic violence issues (unfortunately, I found out his Father also has Mars in Cancer). He told me, in his childhood he saw those domestic violence and sometimes his Mother run away took him and his sisters to the hotel to sleep. His childhood was a hard time. I slowly can see he carries anger towards his Father till now.

But, I know those story from him too late, and my Dad kind of sees it from psychology perspective. I don't know exactly why my Dad thinks I need to wait until the baby is born. Although I can understand some of things why he did what he did but the hurt is too deep and it eats me slowly from the inside.

I'm considering to let the ship sinked, slowly, intentionally, not too direct, so he finally can take me seriously this time.

But, how?

I hope you take my experience with an open mind not as a judgment to every people who have similar placement, as I believe people are different although may have some similar pattern/traits. If they are mature, they will bring the best thing of each sign positive traits.

posted July 10, 2018 08:55 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Ah, Cancer Mars....I could write a BOOK about this placement having dated 2 "men" for a combined 12 years. My Dad also has a Cancer Mars.

Where should I start?? I am a Cancer Sun, Venus, Mercury + Cap Moon btw

This Mars is vindictive, passive agrressive and likes crocodile tears. They are also bitter and inwardly jealous WHICH, you will pay for. They also like to treat you like sh1t only to try and "buy you back" in various ways.

It's really so easy for us that are not involved in your life to tell you to leave him but it isn't that easy, is it!?

I will not give you any advice but I will say that your gut already has all the answers. Listen. You won't regret it!

Oh, forgot. My Dad is a Gemini Sun too....

Wouldn't surprise me if your guy is jealous for you carrying a child. If so, he wouldn't be able to logically process the fact that it's also HIS child. He'd see it as you + child vs. him.

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Yes, it is not easy to get out. I can relate to what you are saying about the Mars, I can see it too and experience the "you will pay for".

I'm not sure if he is jealous for me carrying a child, but he definitely will say something if he sees me not being too productive during pregnancy, like, he has little understanding of what pregnancy feels like until I explain it to him, but sometimes I am not in the mood to continue explain everything what I feel. He is sensitive but can be very insensitive if he wants to hurt other people, like, if I love the people I am with I will be very careful with my words and actions, but he is very impulsive emotionally although I can see he regrets it later, but sometimes it can be too late.

How's your Mother manage to live with your Father?

posted July 13, 2018 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Sikanda:
Hi, hearttreasure, I'm sorry to hear that abd I just wanted to say that if you feel like running, well, perhaps you should try to give things a break. You are valuable and you shiuld allow no emotional manipulation from anyone. My advice is leave for a while and live elsewhere, if possible with family members. Staying away from the situation will let you see things from a different perspective in a calmer way and you'll be able to reach a conclusion/make a decision. Best of luck

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One time I did leave him for awhile and live with my sister, but when he knew it, he threatened to make a bigger drama and would drag my sister into ours (he knew I wouldn't want it happened).

I'm trying to avoid drama with him actually as it can be exhausting.

Geez, yeah, I think I need some fresh air to breathe.. I know he doesn't want me to leave and I also sense the dependency thing as he has a hard time to trust other people. He knows I don't know how to manipulate and I have emotional honesty who always telling him the truth and some knowledge to protect him.

posted July 13, 2018 10:08 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
My husband grows up with a history that his parents also were in a domestic violence issues (unfortunately, I found out his Father also has Mars in Cancer). He told me, in his childhood he saw those domestic violence and sometimes his Mother run away took him and his sisters to the hotel to sleep. His childhood was a hard time. I slowly can see he carries anger towards his Father till now.

But, I know those story from him too late, and my Dad kind of sees it from psychology perspective. I don't know exactly why my Dad thinks I need to wait until the baby is born. Although I can understand some of things why he did what he did but the hurt is too deep and it eats me slowly from the inside.

I'm considering to let the ship sinked, slowly, intentionally, not too direct, so he finally can take me seriously this time.

But, how?

I hope you take my experience with an open mind not as a judgment to every people who have similar placement, as I believe people are different although may have some similar pattern/traits. If they are mature, they will bring the best thing of each sign positive traits.

Good luck with your Gem!

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posted July 13, 2018 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Just don't deal with Gemini Suns. That's my motto. Heard this story too many times with Gemini.

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